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Title: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on August 21, 2020, 01:39:30 AM
Hey guys,

Just wanted to invite you to my new You Tube channel "The Viper Simmer".  I hope to bring a new look to online flying videos, as well as cockpit building tips, and gear reviews and more.  Please help get me started by liking and subscribing!

Jody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki8Ogky8WoA
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on August 21, 2020, 01:44:23 AM
Done, awesome job Jody!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Bloodhound161 on August 23, 2020, 06:27:54 AM
Really cool!  :beer:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on August 30, 2020, 06:53:09 PM
Hey guys,

I started a 7 part video on my entire cockpit build.  Part 1 is completed and uploaded for viewing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vegqPzQZR64
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Korbi on August 31, 2020, 05:54:49 AM
Youre doing a great job there Jody, good narrating as well! Stay on it! :)
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Skins on August 31, 2020, 11:28:03 AM
Great vid Jody! Can't wait to watch more!

Skins
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Tulkas on August 31, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Cool! Following this!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on September 01, 2020, 02:45:59 PM
SUPER COOL and a GREAT video Jody. Me looking forward for the next one  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on September 01, 2020, 03:17:35 PM
Well since you asked...

I uploaded a review of the FSX DUAL-M.  If you use a flight helmet and/or headset this is the item to get!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJhZe3XIPbY
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nigel on September 01, 2020, 05:00:53 PM
Hey Jody!
I have a feature request. When you post the videos, can you do a version with no music? I like to hear what BMS is doing and I pay attention to sounds from comms and the cockpit. Thanks
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on September 01, 2020, 06:39:29 PM
Hmmm, strange none of my recent videos have music?
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nigel on September 05, 2020, 03:48:01 PM
The first one in this thread, it has some cool flying. No big deal, I just like to hear the engine and cockpit sounds to learn from. I dont fly a lot yet and the audio cues help.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Rufus on September 05, 2020, 08:13:32 PM
Next project - add seat cuing!

I fly a Trainer that got updated with a motion seat a bit ago...and I can tell you that it makes a huge addition, more so than the sounds...with ONE rather big flaw - when you throttle up, the seat pushes into your back...you should actually sink into the seat like the seat bottom does when you pull G.

I've flown a Trainer or two with seat cushions that operate just in this manner (and have been told I'm probably the only one around that has, because I was the first one to call them out on it) and it's really big augment for immersion.

If you wear a torso harness and strap in, include strap tightening - and don't forget to think inside-out!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nigel on September 08, 2020, 03:54:01 PM
I split this off into a new topic here, dont want to derail your thread Jody
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=11800.0
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on September 14, 2020, 10:37:00 PM
Part 2 - Ejection Seat has been added

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-yeMtgnnY
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on September 21, 2020, 11:47:53 PM
Our first mission from OP: Perseus Dawn.  What an awesome campaign!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkbys_ZaRww
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on September 22, 2020, 02:32:10 AM
Awesome video!  :beer: :clap:
Now I got to get back to work to get my cockpit flight worthy.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on September 30, 2020, 02:08:26 PM
Who doesn't like a good old Ramp Start video to see everything in action??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R42XQ70gVBg
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nomad on September 30, 2020, 05:06:48 PM
Nice video!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Tulkas on October 01, 2020, 05:40:51 AM
Cool video. I felt identified with your intro, a good old ramp start really gets you in the zone for a mission.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on October 03, 2020, 01:07:52 PM
Part 3 of my cockpit build; including how to get your real oxygen regulator working.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVDWpR8nSbY
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nomad on October 03, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
Another great video!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 03, 2020, 10:55:34 AM
Mission number #2 from our OP" Perseus Dawn campaign has been uploaded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJzFHn47yKY
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: tiger-31 on November 03, 2020, 11:05:26 AM
Nice!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on November 03, 2020, 01:24:48 PM
COOL man, very nice video here. TOP work  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 10, 2020, 04:23:27 PM
Mission number 3 from our Op: Perseus Dawn Campaign.  Cool night mission with a very cool ending.   :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVpdgfzRMbA



Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on November 10, 2020, 04:39:59 PM
Fricking COOL Jody  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  I love it  :vprules:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: tiger-31 on November 11, 2020, 01:12:50 AM
As usual, very nice vid @Marvin.  :thumbsup: Sorry you have to clean out the pit and put the chair back in again.  :harhar:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: henkie on November 12, 2020, 01:53:13 PM
Indeed, very interesting ending  :bounce2:  Also very instructional, I guess.  When the lady says "pull up" you better listen / obey  :D

Keep them coming @Marvin  even though they make me feel very humble (no flying skillz whatsoever here)
 
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 12, 2020, 03:34:29 PM
Indeed, very interesting ending  :bounce2:  Also very instructional, I guess.  When the lady says "pull up" you better listen / obey  :D

Keep them coming @Marvin  even though they make me feel very humble (no flying skillz whatsoever here)

Yeah I normally don't get shot down, so this made it fun.  But then I was like, how am I going to end off this video??  lol  So a little Youtube searching helped me find some suitable footage to use.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Cupra on November 12, 2020, 11:54:44 PM
Someone got shot down? I have to look  :flipacoin:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 18, 2020, 03:18:44 PM
Uploaded a new video - Tutorial on how to conduct LAN tests prior to your mission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBj2Iy1fGrM

Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on November 18, 2020, 06:12:47 PM
Super COOL Jody, ill hae to try that too when I get into the saddle again.

Im also almost done with my pit, just a fed pcb change on the HMD, Audio 1 and 2 panels then everything works.

in the meentime I do some stability test in the pit to see how everything works in the long run and so far all is good.

I get e new GFX card this week that can handle 6 screens at one time and not only the 4 that is normal.  so looking forward to this.

Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 18, 2020, 06:27:43 PM
What other screens are you adding?
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on November 18, 2020, 06:47:57 PM
What other screens are you adding?

For now I have the ATD, 2 x MFD´s and the 3 projectors, then I will have one output left for my CPD if I want that active, but for now I have all the real instruments in the CP working (SIMTEK).

so now I have 2 GFX cards in my pit to run my screens and like the option now that my main GPU will be to slow for BMS in the future :-)

Tha is why I have invested in this: https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-R57XTAORUS-8GD-rev-10#kf

Its 95% faster/powerfull than my 5+ years old AMD R9 FuryX Card.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 18, 2020, 07:50:28 PM
Oh no not the CPD!  Don’t change that for gauges!!!!   :-\
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on November 19, 2020, 06:29:25 AM
Oh no not the CPD!  Don’t change that for gauges!!!!   :-\

NOPE will never do that when my gauges work, but nice to have as backup.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 19, 2020, 12:15:44 PM
Oh no not the CPD!  Don’t change that for gauges!!!!   :-\

NOPE will never do that when my gauges work, but nice to have as backup.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Ah ok.  That makes sense!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on December 04, 2020, 08:49:29 PM
Op Perseus Dawn - Mission # 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhHO0xOEQRg
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: tiger-31 on December 05, 2020, 01:48:18 AM
Nice video again @Marvin.  :thumbsup:

Just one suggestion. Your previous tutorial says turorial in the title (green text). Now that does not affect the quality of your video or what you are trying to do. But I thought perhaps you might want to change it. Its up to you. Sometimes I read a text I wrote myself, 10 times and I wouldn't be able to see if my name was written upside down so...
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on December 05, 2020, 09:23:15 AM
Ha ha ha man I never noticed that!  Thanks I will correct that.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on January 06, 2021, 10:51:17 PM
Another mission upload.  This one is rather interesting with all the mistakes we made and a couple easter eggs in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u1B0PMOHc0
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: tiger-31 on January 07, 2021, 04:12:01 PM
With all the problems, i can at least hope the raft inflated?
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on January 07, 2021, 05:11:05 PM
With all the problems, i can at least hope the raft inflated?

It did but then I landed in shark infested waters.  Very typical!  Lol
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on July 06, 2021, 08:01:24 PM
Part 5 is up.   :flipacoin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk7SuJWVicE
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Blaze on July 07, 2021, 03:57:24 PM
Well done Jody!  Very motivating.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on July 20, 2021, 03:48:36 AM
Hey crew,

We did our first Live Stream last night.  Although we had a technical issue in the beginning that somehow reset all my audio levels (making my mike very hot and distorted) it went well considering we live streamed a 2.5 hour flight!  Was a lot of fun and certainly better than spending 6 hours editing a video when you can just live stream it.  ;)  So this will be the new way to go for me.   Here is a little clip from the action last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukisd49Jb6M
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on July 20, 2021, 10:22:28 AM
Awesome setup and great flight to watch. Good learning material too.
Thanks for doing this Jody!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on September 21, 2021, 05:42:55 PM
A tutorial on how to perform a "BUNT" attack profile with the LANTIRN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mefW9LEVec
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on September 28, 2021, 10:00:30 AM
And now for the roll and pull!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoBcwjqP48
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on September 28, 2021, 10:47:57 AM
Love the Tacview! Great job Jody!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on October 28, 2021, 06:55:30 PM
Getting ready for the big Virtual Exercise Inhiochos!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXjIMcw2MS8
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 21, 2021, 12:05:57 PM
Hey guys,

Here is a completed flight from Exercise Iniohos with the Greek e-HAF squadron.  I managed to get through a whole flight this time without any complete computer crashes.  Turns out (I believe) the problem was with Discord.  After doing some reading I read guys complaining about a 64bit version as the 32 bit uses up too much resources.  This is not an issue for most pilots, but along with the other 13 apps I am running to run my setup I think this may have been too much.  Either way I tried a flight without Discord and I had no issues.  Maybe a fluke?  Who knows but I will look into this further.

As for Iniohos..  Well that's it for me.  I am blown away by how realistic and complex e-HAF flies (this is exactly what I am after in a squadron) but along with not knowing their procedures and trying to listen to and understand the accent I am having a VERY difficult time keeping up with them.  I know now what "Task Saturation" is like in the cockpit that real Fighter Pilots deal with.  When I watch and edit this video I can clearly hear calls made out to me, but when I was doing the flight I just didn't seem to hear them.  During our RAMP start I couldn't close my canopy, thus I had to re-enter the 3D world where it still didn't work.  Finally after cycling my canopy spider it closed and then I had about 5 minutes to try and do a ramp start.  Then lastly, the person who hosted the mission used "auto-save" by accident, thus I had no DTC; meaning no stpts, PPTs, or other lines that gives me SA.  So I can literally say I was completely blind and my only goal was to stay on Sierra 3's wing.  And at least I did that.  lol

So encourage anyone who is interested to still watch the video and experience the flight from my seat.  I have been invited to join e-HAF which I am VERY thrilled about.  But will be starting after Iniohos where I can go through their training program and learn all their TTPs and procedures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHdXPprXcPg
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nikolas_A on November 21, 2021, 01:23:48 PM
At least one familiar voice in there...  :beer:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on November 21, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
I had the same problem hearing the radio calls when I first started my pilot certificate. My instructor would look at me and ask if I was going to respond to the ATC and I had no idea they had called me lol.

Took like 10 flights and a lot of listening to my ATC app on my phone to get the mind trained and get past this. I just had too much of my mind focused on flying the airplane and reading gauges.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on November 21, 2021, 01:43:59 PM
Love the new MFD/DED views! Makes it a lot easier to follow what's going on.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Morgan on November 22, 2021, 11:41:53 AM
I think that a big problem you have is that in all the flights you do not hear the GSI and that is the reason you get lost in the flight.
You hear them talking from UHF but you do not understand what they are talking about.
I noticed that in the VHF your formation spoke mainly Greek so you could not follow the flow of the flight.
INIOCHOS as an exercise has a workload and a requirement for proper preparation and reading of the ibriefing. But there is no reason to think that you can not do it
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 23, 2021, 10:09:00 AM
I think that a big problem you have is that in all the flights you do not hear the GSI and that is the reason you get lost in the flight.
You hear them talking from UHF but you do not understand what they are talking about.
I noticed that in the VHF your formation spoke mainly Greek so you could not follow the flow of the flight.
INIOCHOS as an exercise has a workload and a requirement for proper preparation and reading of the ibriefing. But there is no reason to think that you can not do it

It's no so much that I don't think I can do it.  Its more realizing the compromises are being made.  I don't have a squadron, so the 320th allowed me to fly with them.  And Ironman has been VERY helpful and its obvious to me the struggle and sacrifice they are doing to speak English.  But after a few flights I think in the end it is taking away from their fun as they cripple themselves or put themselves at a disadvantage trying to speak English and compensate for me not speaking Greek.   While working with guys of different cultures in the Police service I have learned that it takes time to get use to an accent and understand the words effectively.  So now you take in account the distortion and hiss on the IVC (which was done for realism and I love it) and it makes it even harder to understand at times.   They materials they provide is very in-depth and detailed.  There is no doubt at a mission I know what we are planning to do.  But I have learned that if you cannot follow or hear the communications it still fails.

So all I am saying is I am excited to start training with them slowly and progressively after the exercise where I can learn their ways and hopefully even learn common phases in Greek that are said in the cockpit, and next year I am certain it will be much better.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nigel on November 25, 2021, 03:29:46 AM
Jody I was under the impression that all NATO air forces in RL speak in english but I guess not. Maybe I'm confusing it with civilian air traffic. I would think it would be mandatory though to train in english just for any allied conflict for the obvious reason. Regarding your flight, from everything I've read and heard from real combat vets seems like what you experienced is totally realistic as in "Fog of war"
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nikolas_A on November 25, 2021, 04:21:56 AM
From the real videos I've seen, the English brevity codes are used more as time goes by, but still a lot of Greek in between...
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Snoopy on November 25, 2021, 04:45:36 AM
In our country all pilots are fully trained in English. They all speak it very well (although some of them do have a terrible accent) since they had all their training in the US. But in exercises, when for example American units are the opposite side, they will communicate in Dutch to not give away any information.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on November 25, 2021, 02:30:11 PM
In our country all pilots are fully trained in English. They all speak it very well (although some of them do have a terrible accent) since they had all their training in the US. But in exercises, when for example American units are the opposite side, they will communicate in Dutch to not give away any information.

Yes I would imagine any NATO country must be able to operate in English for joint operations.  I would also image they would communicate in the native language on intra-flight just for quicker and more effective communication.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Leech87 on November 25, 2021, 02:35:23 PM
In our country all pilots are fully trained in English. They all speak it very well (although some of them do have a terrible accent) since they had all their training in the US. But in exercises, when for example American units are the opposite side, they will communicate in Dutch to not give away any information.

Yes I would imagine any NATO country must be able to operate in English for joint operations.  I would also image they would communicate in the native language on intra-flight just for quicker and more effective communication.
Correct
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: salaxi54 on November 25, 2021, 02:43:24 PM
Fellas, let's not forget, virtual squadrons are manned (mostly) by civilians. Thus, we should expect local squadrons using native language a lot. Of course when members from abroad join-in, it would be all the more logical trying to communicate in English for example. NATO forces always communicate in English (not always successfully - trust me), be it Air Force, Navy, or the Army during joint exercises. Take it from a guy who's participated on the Gulf crisis, the Adriatic, and countless STANAVFORMED missions..  :whocares:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Snoopy on November 25, 2021, 02:59:04 PM
This question made me searching, and I still do have em...   :notes:

Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: malpaso on November 25, 2021, 03:21:34 PM
@Snoopy, your ICAO must be 6.
it is the document that attests to an aviator's proficiency in English, that is, his ability to communicate and understand the language.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: malpaso on November 25, 2021, 03:31:09 PM
Following ICAO guidelines, evaluating English within the universe of civil aviation. This includes the pilot's routine, unforeseen events and emergencies. Skills assessed are pronunciation, grammatical structure, vocabulary, fluency, comprehension and interactions.
Test:
 Aviation Topics
 Candidates answer questions related to their experience and the daily life of aviation in general. This initial part aims to “break the ice”, while the answers are evaluated. Each answer should last approximately one minute.
Interacting as a Pilot
Now the candidate is the pilot, interacting with traffic control in five different situations. All information understood must be reported to the examiner, always using aviation phraseology. Here, the aim is to assess the ability to understand and interact in English.
Unexpected Situations
Three emergency situations are presented, through recordings of dialogues between a pilot and a controller. The candidate must report everything he/she was able to understand and answer questions about each situation. In the end, he should indicate what was the most difficult situation to deal with and point out possible solutions or ways to prevent the problem. This step assesses language comprehension in real emergency situations.
 Picture Description and Discussion
In the last part of the exam, the candidate must describe a photo and answer questions related to the image. Statements are presented and the respondent must say how much they agree or disagree with them, always justifying their opinion.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Fhyndoh on November 25, 2021, 04:50:13 PM
the other thing not mentioned here is Marvin gets to learn a new language while flying with friends, and that is something only the internet can provide!

it sounds like a wonderful community and challenge

M
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: salaxi54 on November 25, 2021, 11:57:59 PM
@Snoopy : I think i still have some of that DLI-ELC stuff from training in Lackland TX.
@Fhyndoh : That's one of the nicest things about online communities!
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on March 14, 2022, 05:08:05 PM
Another video with a new much better quality camera on my head for POV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZZm_W207Oo
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Cupra on March 14, 2022, 05:25:07 PM
That looks really amazing  :yihaw:  :cheerleader:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on March 14, 2022, 06:40:51 PM
Super cool Jody  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on March 14, 2022, 06:55:44 PM
Awesome Jody  :clap:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Rufus on March 14, 2022, 10:01:06 PM
I know that when I got my Private Pilot's license I was taught that the FAA standard for ALL air operations was the English language.  I know this isn't strictly adhered to in ALL locations (try flying into Quebec and not speaking French, forex...) but supposedly it's the FAA "standard" by Regulation.

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/1031388
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Zeight on March 15, 2022, 08:35:07 AM
Great video  :beer:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Foghorn on March 18, 2022, 08:07:54 PM
I know that when I got my Private Pilot's license I was taught that the FAA standard for ALL air operations was the English language.  I know this isn't strictly adhered to in ALL locations (try flying into Quebec and not speaking French, forex...) but supposedly it's the FAA "standard" by Regulation.

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/1031388

... ICAO standard, not just FAA.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Rufus on March 19, 2022, 02:27:11 PM
Thanks, Foghorn.  I thought that...but wasn't positive.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on May 17, 2022, 11:30:52 PM
If you guys haven't checked out the new JTAC features with 4.36 do so.  It is so freaking cool!!!   JTAC starts at about 29:00 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF1EYCS78o




https://youtu.be/vjF1EYCS78o (https://youtu.be/vjF1EYCS78o)
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Taipan on May 18, 2022, 12:14:50 AM
If you guys haven't checked out the new JTAC features with 4.36 do so.  It is so freaking cool!!!   JTAC starts at about 29:00 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF1EYCS78o
I had sent this to a buddy of mine who's an aviation& f-16 tragic. This will convince him to build a pit. It's an absolute ripper. great work.
imho the best aspect is you explained everything you did... super informative.
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Marvin on August 11, 2022, 12:56:57 PM
Hey guys,

I posted a range practice video a few days ago and asked Foghorn to critique it.  Expecting only a "Nice work" I was pleasantly surprised with a COMPLETE IP style review & assessment.  Needless to say I learned a tons on how to improve and fly more realistic and thought this is a great opportunity for others to fine tune their procedures.

Once again thanks to Foghorn for all the time he put in helping me out.

Jody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptfl5tEdqcE

And this is his assessment
______________________________


Nice work!

Now to ruin your day (aka IP comments):


The Passes

10 LALD #1 -- Safe Escape - Turning Maneuver Level Turn (TMLT... aka "Tuna Melt") parameters are 0-5o through 60o of turn.  This pass would have been a valid record hit for AFI 11-206 qualifications, but would have been a Top Gun Gross Error (TGGE) for the Top Gun competition for invalid safe escape.  You deviated above 5o nose high during the turn.

10 LALD #2 --  Good 11-206 Pass.  Meets TG criteria.

10 LALD #3 -- 11-206 Non-Record Pass.  AFI 11-206 only allows 2 attacks of the same type from the same attack axis.  Therefore, this is a non-record bomb, and is not recorded for your accuracy qualifications.  Also, because it is a non-record pass, it is also discounted from TG criteria.  Otherwise, it was a Good Pass.  Curiously, you commented that, "it was a bit shallow", which is incorrect.  Your release was at 12o dive angle, so it was actually slightly steep.  TG criteria is ±5o, so you were well within parameters.

10 LALD all passes -- Why did you TMLT right instead of left?  Isn't the box pattern left traffic?  Nothing wrong with how you did it, just curious.

30 DB #1 -- Good 11-206 Pass.  TGGE for over-G (6.1).

30 DB #2 -- Good 11-206 Pass.  TGGE for over-G (6.2).

30 DB #3 -- Non-Record Pass. Non-TG Pass.  It would have been a TGGE for over-G (6.8!).

30 DB all passes -- after completing the climbing maneuver, why did you turn right before turning left to crosswind?  Again, isn't the box pattern left traffic?  This seems unnecessary.


General IP comments and discussion:

1.  I have never seen the technique of using the OAs for your Roll In Point and Aim Off Distance before.  I like it; it's fantastic.  I'm completely stealing that... you know, if I were still flying Vipers regularly.

2.  Who showed you the hand/canopy relationships for the different pass angles?  I did not expect you would know those.  Pleasantly surprised!

3.  There is a difference between a Safe Escape Maneuver, and a Safe Separation Maneuver when bombing.  Safe Escape (TMLT or CSEM) Maneuver is to get your ass out of the frag bubble of your own bombs before they impact and explode.  Safe Separation Maneuver (SSM) is to simply get you far enough away from your bombs at release before they arm and possible (mal-)function early.  These are not the same maneuvers, though they are close.

10 LD and 20 LD passes put you within your own frag bubble when you release, so you need to do a Safe Escape.  30 DB (and higher) passes do not... in fact, an 'on-parameters' delivery will keep you from ever entering the frag bubble... so Safe Separation from your own bombs are the requirement.

So (unless the procedures have change since I last flew Vipers, which is possible), a CSEM is a straight pull to a minimum of 5 G's in 2 seconds, held through 20o nose high, and then continued at any G until 30o nose high before beginning any turn.  A SSM is a stright pull to a minimum of 5 G's in 2 seconds, held until 20o nose high before beginning a turn.  Like I said, very similar, but technically different.

On your 30 DB passes, you were verbally talking yourself through an (incorrect) CSEM, but performing (correctly) a SSM.  Again, it is possible that things have changed since I last flew, but I doubt it... cuz they never changed in that manner in my 27 years.

4.  What munitions were you dropping?  500#-ers, one at a time?  If so, you over-G'd your bombs on your first 30 DB.  5.5G is both the carriage limit and employment limit on pretty much all 500#-class and 2000#-class weapons.  If you were dropping the 25# BDU-33 practice bombs, their carriage limit is higher, and thus no over-G... but we always evaluate for TG criteria as if it were a full scale weapon.  Ergo, you have a 0.5g window.  Welcome to BSA, the sport of kings.

5.  "2, Go Tight"  WTF is that?


Okay, very anal-retentive stuff, but also 100% true (plus or minus procedure changes I'm unaware of).  BSA on the range is a game of precision for Top Gun criteria, while the basic AFI 11-206 doesn't care about precision passes... only "did you hit the target".  Yes, you are being measured against two differing sets of standards every time you go out to the range.  AFI only cares about successfully hitting the target.  TG is a competition of precision.

All together though, fantastic job on the range.  I would have easily mistaken you for an experienced Viper Flight Lead in a squadron.

Cheers,

Foghorn
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Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Kukki on August 11, 2022, 01:10:20 PM
Fricking COOL Jody, and what a great assesment from FH  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

You can always be my wingman  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: henkie on August 11, 2022, 04:25:05 PM
Awesome achievement Jody  :clap:

I don't even dream of achieving "good", forget your level  ::)
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on August 11, 2022, 08:00:40 PM
It's amazing the amount of time spent by members to help each other.
Hat's off to FH and amazing videos Jody! You're the king of these.  :vprules:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Foghorn on August 11, 2022, 08:15:07 PM
Thanks for the kind words as I beat Jody into shape with a ball peen hammer.  Only 2- or 3-thousand more passes and he'll be ready for combat!

I kid. I kid.  He really is doing a great job, and like I said, I was nitpicking the living hell outta his passes, exactly as if he was one of the guys in the squadron, and this was just another regular day on the range.  Those very nitnoid discrepancies I debriefed are very typical of every proficient, active flyer in the airframe.  I was expecting newbie mistakes;  what I saw was a pro doing God's work.

It is a testament to PRACTICE.


Who's next?
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: jjbravo on August 11, 2022, 08:21:40 PM
 ;D

I would love to be next, but I'll let Jody put me through the paces before I'll let you get to me... :notes:
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Sporran on August 12, 2022, 02:06:46 AM
It's amazing the amount of time spent by members to help each other.
Hat's off to FH and amazing videos Jody! You're the king of these.  :vprules:

+1 Outstanding
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Nigel on August 12, 2022, 04:04:39 AM
Foghorn, it's so great to have you here. I think I can speak for all of by saying that we all try to emulate reality with our pits and BMS so it's great to have real feedback. It's far better to get your ass kicked than a polite atta boy. It's the fastest way to learn. To quote the teacher in "Whiplash" "No two words more harmful than 'good job'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_IzDeBdRM
Title: Re: The Viper Simmer
Post by: Korbi on August 15, 2022, 11:04:53 PM
Awesome! Very interesting reply on that video as well, thank you Jody and Foghorn!
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