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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2024, 01:58:56 PM »
Thanks, that is what I thought and makes more.

However there is one more switch/actuator that Blaze identifies in the picture above as the one inflating the seal, that's the one I wonder if I have any need to install for the future 🤔

I still don't get it, if in the real plane you use the toggle switch to lower or raise the canopy, why would we want in our cockpits the roller switch to do that job?
The toggle switch is to raise/lower the canopy, I believe the roller switch then locks/seals the cockpit.  Both the toggle switch and the roller switch (via the spider) is implemented in BMS.

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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2024, 04:36:21 PM »
Ahhh, now I see  :DOH:

There are two roller switches!

That's a new puzzle for me too   :reading:

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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2024, 01:36:18 AM »
Ahhh, now I see  :DOH:

There are two roller switches!

That's a new puzzle for me too   :reading:
According to Blaze's post the second one is the safety switch driving the caution light.
Looks like for us pitbuilders this one is not really important, since the lights are controlled by the software anyways...
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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2024, 04:06:01 AM »
Why not hardwire lights too  :bat:  :lolsign: :stupid:

Or maybe some of them…  :digger:

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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2024, 05:25:57 AM »
Ahhh, now I see  :DOH:

There are two roller switches!

That's a new puzzle for me too   :reading:
According to Blaze's post the second one is the safety switch driving the caution light.
Looks like for us pitbuilders this one is not really important, since the lights are controlled by the software anyways...

Ok, I just went and downloaded BMS 4.37 to take a look at the keyfile:


Canopy open, stop and close are for the toggle switch.

The new bit is canopy lock, unlock, which I assume is for the warning light? this will be the roller switch. This one actually is the one which tells the sim the position of your physical spider.

For the time being, there is not "canopy sealing", but I think I am going to add a switch for it as well, just in case it gets implement in the future, but probably it won't be necessary.



I think this settles it?


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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2024, 07:52:47 AM »
 :thumbsup:

Never say never,
but I am sure that I will not implement sealing inflation  :D

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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2024, 11:35:54 AM »
@Tulkas you can map it to the spider for now and then re-map it later if/when BMS implements it.  At the moment, you can hear a soft hiss for a second or two when you close the spider.

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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2024, 02:19:41 AM »
For the time being, there is not "canopy sealing", but I think I am going to add a switch for it as well, just in case it gets implement in the future, but probably it won't be necessary.

Hmmm.. But that would also mean, you will need to have a real canopy to close that switch, wouldn't it?
Otherwise, how is it going to activate?
I think a better solution would be to use a double pole switch on the spider, so the spider activates the spidercommand and sealcommand

(I highly doubt, we will ever see something like that implemented. To me that's the same like all the internal fuel valves, power latches, and so on. Those will be enganged by the system, but not by the pilot)

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I think this settles it?

Looks perfect to me!

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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2024, 06:27:58 AM »
For the time being, there is not "canopy sealing", but I think I am going to add a switch for it as well, just in case it gets implement in the future, but probably it won't be necessary.

Hmmm.. But that would also mean, you will need to have a real canopy to close that switch, wouldn't it?
Otherwise, how is it going to activate?

Not really, you can see the horizontal leg of the spider with the semicircular bump at the end that push the seal switch, is just to place one more switch right there. Probably unnecessary, but is not a big job and I am tired of opening and revisiting parts of the cockpit to upgrade  :lol:

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Re: Last BMS version and the CANOPY SPIDER
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2024, 11:57:37 AM »
For the time being, there is not "canopy sealing", but I think I am going to add a switch for it as well, just in case it gets implement in the future, but probably it won't be necessary.

Hmmm.. But that would also mean, you will need to have a real canopy to close that switch, wouldn't it?
Otherwise, how is it going to activate?

Not really, you can see the horizontal leg of the spider with the semicircular bump at the end that push the seal switch, is just to place one more switch right there. Probably unnecessary, but is not a big job and I am tired of opening and revisiting parts of the cockpit to upgrade  :lol:
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You're totally right! I'm glad I still have the rework of the left side ahead of me ;)
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