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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2024, 08:45:01 AM »
Hmm I don't know, in my opinion there is no significant difference to Quest3.
A slightly higher resolution, but smaller FOV and lower refresh rate:

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I will definitely wait for the first reviews.

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2024, 05:19:51 AM »
Thanks @Marvin for your brilliant idea of using LED spot lights for VR Mixed Reality users!!!

I have implemented in PSCockpit your idea using Smart Lights. See this post: https://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=12898.msg200208#msg200208

Knowing that you have contacts at BMS developing team, would it be possible to implement sunrise, sunset, sun noon times and visibility in the BMS shared memory?

Regards,
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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2024, 04:14:32 AM »
I'm try to follow your tracks...   :runningdog:
From 4.37U5 change logs, Breaking Changes :
* OpenXR Toolkit will NOT work and will cause BMS to crash.
So, the only option left is steamVR. OpenXR has been reported to be faster.
What framedrop do you have ?

A wired connection to the Quest improves the streaming quality a lot. So I order an Lemorele USB-C adapter but when I plug it into the quest, nothing shows up. (the adapter is working fine on my laptop computer)
What adapter are you guys using ?

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2024, 10:55:22 AM »
I'm try to follow your tracks...   :runningdog:
From 4.37U5 change logs, Breaking Changes :
* OpenXR Toolkit will NOT work and will cause BMS to crash.
So, the only option left is steamVR. OpenXR has been reported to be faster.
What framedrop do you have ?

A wired connection to the Quest improves the streaming quality a lot. So I order an Lemorele USB-C adapter but when I plug it into the quest, nothing shows up. (the adapter is working fine on my laptop computer)
What adapter are you guys using ?

OpenXR works, it's just not using the the OpenXR Toolkit, you don't need that anymore. The developer put all the functionality into BMS for OpenXR which is why BMS will crash if you have the OpenXR Toolkit installed as well..

I use this network connector, it allows you to charge the headset at the same time:
https://a.co/d/5PTef6z




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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2024, 01:23:00 PM »
I use this network connector, it allows you to charge the headset at the same time:
https://a.co/d/5PTef6z
Ok I will order the same one as yours.
What PD are you using ? a 100W ?

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2024, 03:51:04 PM »
I'm try to follow your tracks...   :runningdog:
From 4.37U5 change logs, Breaking Changes :
* OpenXR Toolkit will NOT work and will cause BMS to crash.
So, the only option left is steamVR. OpenXR has been reported to be faster.
What framedrop do you have ?

A wired connection to the Quest improves the streaming quality a lot. So I order an Lemorele USB-C adapter but when I plug it into the quest, nothing shows up. (the adapter is working fine on my laptop computer)
What adapter are you guys using ?



As @jjbravo wrote the Open XR code is more updated compared to the Tool Kit so it is no longer required.  So rather than just removing the Open XR Tool kit as you will still want this for DCS just deselect BMS in the Tool kit and BMS should run fine for you.

Yes the new OPen XR code is much smoother than Steam.  Use these settings in your CFG and you should have a nice performance boost as it gave me a 35% performance boost:

set g_bVRNoPresent 1                            // No VR view on Monitor
set g_bVREnableFFR 1                            // Foveal Testing of Open XR
set g_fVRPeripheralRadiiFFR 1.10                // Recommending setting for Q3

As for your network adapter it MAY not be your adapter as some guys are discovering its the cheap amazon cables some are using.  I use the Quest Link cable which a very nice high quality cable.
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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2024, 04:19:56 PM »
I just ordered exactly the same one as jjbravo and this 100W PD : https://t.ly/Q8Nw2
I'll let you know the results with this hardware

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2024, 08:13:11 AM »
Knowing that you have contacts at BMS developing team, would it be possible to implement sunrise, sunset, sun noon times and visibility in the BMS shared memory?
@JShepherd
You can calculate this on your own ;). The only thing that is missing is the day of year, other input parameters are already available. For implementation, C code can be download here : https://midcdmz.nrel.gov/spa/

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2024, 09:19:59 AM »
Under the Christmas tree, this morning I found the same one as jjbravo (https://a.co/d/5PTef6z) and this 100W PD : https://t.ly/Q8Nw2  :biggrin:
With this hardware, it's running fine with the Quest3.

So the first one I ordered https://t.ly/oqJNh doesn't works properly with the Quest. There's something wrong the the PD management. It's seems it is constantly connect and disconnect.
On a laptop computer it is ok.

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #69 on: December 26, 2024, 02:11:14 PM »
Hello,
Now I have the wired connection up and running.
I installed VirtualDestop in the Quest and on my laptop. When I start VirtualDestop I have my windows desktop showing in the Quest. :thumbsup:
But when I start BMS and then enter the 3D cockpit, I still just have BMS in my desktop window.
What do I miss ?

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #70 on: December 26, 2024, 03:10:36 PM »
Yesterday, I was reading about all the configurable settings in BMS ...
Maybe there is a setting in the config file that has to be set manually?

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #71 on: December 26, 2024, 07:35:41 PM »
Hello,
Now I have the wired connection up and running.
I installed VirtualDestop in the Quest and on my laptop. When I start VirtualDestop I have my windows desktop showing in the Quest. :thumbsup:
But when I start BMS and then enter the 3D cockpit, I still just have BMS in my desktop window.
What do I miss ?

Do you have Open XR selected in the launcher? Also, select NOMOVIE
Do you have the VDXR selected in the OpenXR Runtime in the Virtual Desktop Streamer?

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2024, 06:10:49 AM »
Here is my Falcon BMS User.cfg
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set g_nVRHMD 1 // Enables the OpenVR (default 0/false).
set g_fVRZOOMFOV 60 // Field of view in degrees for VR ZOOM (default 60.0).
set g_nVRHMCSEYE 0 // HMCS renders, 0 Right eye, 1 Left eye (default 0/false).
set g_fVRResolution 1.0 // VR resolution multiplier. 1.0 by default.
set g_bVRParallelRenderThread 1 // Enable Multi-Thread optimization for VR
set g_bHdrLighting 1 // Enables the HDR lighting (default 0/true).
set g_bMixedRealityCockpitCoverEnabled 1 // Setting this will default the Mixed Reality Cockpit Cover on (1) or off (0). Can still be toggled in game.
set g_bEnvironmentMapping 0 // Performance boost
set g_bWaterEnvironmentMapping 0 // Performance boost
set g_bShadowMapping 0 // Performance boost
set g_fVRInnermostRadiiFFR 0.73
set g_fVRMiddleRadiiFFR 0.75
set g_fVRPeripheralRadiiFFR 1.10 // Recommending setting for Q3

// LAUNCHER OVERRIDES BEGIN HERE - DO NOT EDIT OR ADD BELOW THIS LINE
set g_nButtonsPerDevice 128 // SETUP OVERRIDE
set g_nHotasPinkyShiftMagnitude 0 // SETUP OVERRIDE


In the launcher, "Open XR" is selected.
Now NOMOVIE is enabled, but no changes.

The chroma key passthrought also doesn't work : I have the magenta cockpit in Quest not replaced with the Quest camera view.

Is it possible that it is related to my computer video card ? Not at home and I 'm testing with my laptop (NVidia Quadro K3000M)
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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2024, 01:21:48 PM »
Sounds like you don't have the VR Passthrough setup in Virtual Desktop for the magenta color.

Look at @Marvin video here:
https://youtu.be/q8xYsqLgF9s?feature=shared&t=858

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Re: BMS & AR Demo Video
« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2024, 06:48:48 AM »
I did set the magenta color for the VR passthrought and all other settings from Marvin video.

I could make a quick test on another computer with a Radeon R 200 and everything looks fine. :thumbsup:
So it is related to this NVidia Quadro on my laptop.
Thanks for your help

 

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