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Author Topic: Mike's Money Pit  (Read 7652 times)

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2014, 08:59:20 PM »
Oh man a CNC too, way cool. Mill or lathe?

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2014, 09:50:07 PM »
It's a mill.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/5e811cdd-6490-4460-a760-e401796626af_zps47e69630.jpg
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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #62 on: July 26, 2014, 10:44:49 PM »
...what species?.. :notes: ...
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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #63 on: July 26, 2014, 11:28:34 PM »

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2014, 02:23:40 PM »
Very nice indeed!  And it gives me ideas... :notes: ...
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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2014, 01:32:09 PM »
My ACES II Seat Rail build was I nice little project that was fun, but time consuming to build.  They were built several years ago with the help of a good friend and I felt this was an appropriate spot in my build thread to talk about them, since I’m working on the mounting hardware.  We were fortunate to have some real parts and a complete seat rail for comparison.  With everything worked out in AutoCAD and templates made, we started the fabrication process.  Everything was assembled on a jig fixture.  This helped keep everything in alignment.   
Here are some pictures of the process.
Jig.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/Picture103-1.jpg
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The real rails are made from an extruded aluminum composite and are very heavy.  We made ours out of light weight aluminum that is strong enough so we could use a linear actuator for seat adjustment.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/Railparts6-1-1.jpg
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Brackets cut with the templates we made.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/railparts1-1-1.jpg
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Here is a picture of the seat rail skin being worked on.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/railparts2-1-1.jpg
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The rails were installed in the jig and the real skin was used to transfer rivet hole locations.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/railparts3-1.jpg
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Drilling and countersinking rivet holes in the rails.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/Drilling.jpg
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Everything mocked up to check for issues.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/seatrailfittest.jpg
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After allot of drilling, filing, and polishing the parts were washed and placed in an etching solution.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/Partswashing.jpg
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The parts were then primed.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/partspainting.jpg
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Aircraft rivets were installed.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/riviting.jpg
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Finished the riveting and ready for paint.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/railparts10.jpg
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Here is my seat rail all painted and ready for parts to be installed on it.  I am very happy with the way it turned out.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/MyF16Sim/F-16%20Parts/Picture124-1.jpg
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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2014, 03:01:23 PM »
Very nice work!

Where did you get the Extruded Aluminum for the Rails?

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2014, 08:20:27 PM »
Where did you get the Extruded Aluminum for the Rails?

Willy

Metals Supermarket. 
http://metalsupermarkets.com/

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2014, 08:36:04 PM »
...wouldn't mind CNC-ing out some of the flat parts for those rails for any of us interested parties on that new machine of yours once you get it running, would you?... :whistle: ...
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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #69 on: July 28, 2014, 10:56:06 PM »
Mike,

Your seat rail work is just remarkable!!! It reminds me of Nightowl's work showing amazing metal working skills.

Thank you for sharing  :thumbsup:

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2014, 11:30:36 PM »
...wouldn't mind CNC-ing out some of the flat parts for those rails for any of us interested parties on that new machine of yours once you get it running, would you?... :whistle: ...

It sure would be fun milling some of those parts, but I'm afraid that at the pace I build there would be some upset customers.  We will just have to see. 

Mike,

Your seat rail work is just remarkable!!! It reminds me of Nightowl's work showing amazing metal working skills.

Thank you for sharing  :thumbsup:

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Wow String....Nightowl!!  I'd love if I had half his skill with metal working.  I was fortunate to have guidence from a master fabricator.

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2014, 01:41:14 PM »
Where did you get the Extruded Aluminum for the Rails?

Willy

Metals Supermarket. 
http://metalsupermarkets.com/

Mike

Do you have a part number for them?  I don't find any rails that look like that.

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2014, 10:53:38 PM »
If you look closely, it looks like his rails are made up of two parts - a C channel and a flat strip; not a single extrusion.  I've considers doing the same, only milling a slot in a rectangular tube, to get the lip on the forward side of the rail.

What's the green stuff, and how sticky is it?
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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2014, 08:51:15 AM »
Rufas is correct on the seat rails Willy.  The channel is 2 1/4" x 7/8" x 1/8"
The flat bar is 1/8" thick.

The green stuff is an aircraft metal adhesive that is very strong and not sticky when dry.

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Re: Mike's Money Pit
« Reply #74 on: December 14, 2014, 11:07:32 AM »
It's been awhile since my last pit update.  That is not to say I have not been building.  My center Tub is almost complete and I will post some pictures of the build soon.  The most challenging and time consuming  part so far was the construction of the lower seat rail mounting configuration.  If you recall from my previous post, I cast the mounting brackets in aluminum. The hard part was ensuring that the seat rail guide pin hardware mated with the mounting bracket bushings at the proper location.  There was little room for error.  All went well and the Aces II is at the proper distance,Hight, and angle.  I have the proper space between the angle of the floor and my piddle packs.   :yihaw: 

Mike