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Offline Flareless

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Viper Builder Database
« on: October 29, 2010, 08:53:08 AM »
Hi,

I'm putting together a comprehensive database of the Pit Builders here on ViperPit which I will soon incorporate into the Pit Builder's Cross Reference. This information can be used by new and old builders alike when trying to determine which threads contain the information they require.

In building my database I began by going through the threads and filling out the details based on what I could find.  This included details like "type of electronics used", "tub material", "stick type" and more.  I quickly discovered after a number of them that the process would take far too long for me alone.

SO....

What I've done is put together a brief questionaire for all Builders with existing threads in the Viper Pit Progress Reports forum. Please fill out the questionaires as best you can, even if you stopped building your pit and sold it.  With this information I will provide a spreadsheet file to the community which can be used to provide a variety of details such as; Which Builders are located in my country, Who is using x electronics and Who is taking a break from building.  It can also help vendors determine product usage.

Just quote this message and modify the reply to this thread.  I will check it regularly and update my database so please don't PM me.  I`ll also go through some of the older threads which I know are no longer maintained and see how much info I can fill in myself.

Ok, here we go...

ViperPit User Name:
Callsign (If Different):
Name:
Country:
Build Thread Start Date:
Block:
Seat Design/Type:
Switch Electronics:
Lamp Electronics:
Gauge Electronics:
MFD Electronics:
ICP Electronics:
Sim Software:
Pit Software:
Tub Design (Plans):
Tub Material(s):
Glass Center Pedestal (Y/N):
Pedestal Design (Plans):
Pedestal Monitor(s):
Stick Mechanism:
Stick Type:
MFD Type:
MFD Display Type:
ICP Type:
Gauges Type:
Panel Type:
Pedal Type:
Build Status:
Primary Display:
Video Adapter(s):
Sim Computer:
2nd Computer:
Audio System:
TrackIR (Y/N):
Unique Notes:


If you have done multiple pit revisions please include details on your most current setup.  Mention previous info in the Notes. Please keep answers brief and to the point so they can be easily databased (please don't explain each component).

Also note that this questionaire is for Builders with current (or new) Progress Report threads.  Please don't fill it out if you're lurking or just thinking about building a Pit..

With this information Builders will be able to quickly locate any reference material they desire.

Thanks for your help!
« Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 07:58:46 AM by Flareless »
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 09:00:12 AM »
I'll go first...

ViperPit User Name: Flareless
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Rich Sherkin
Country: Canada
Build Thread Start Date: 11/14/03
Block: 50/52
Seat Design/Type: Aimsworth
Switch Electronics: Beta Innovations
Lamp Electronics: Phidgets
Gauge Electronics: Glass
MFD Electronics: RealSimulator
ICP Electronics: X-Keys, Beta Innovations
Sim Software: OF
Pit Software: Falcon-A/FUCC, FalconGauges, F4IM, FCenter, SM Mirror
Tub Design (Plans): Aimsworth, Homemade
Tub Material(s): Fibreglass, Plywood
Glass Center Pedestal (Y/N): Y
Pedestal Design (Plans): Aimsworth
Pedestal Monitor(s): 7" LCD
Stick Mechanism: FSSB-2
Stick Type: Thrustmaster
MFD Type: RealSimulator
MFD Display Type:
ICP Type: Drit
Gauges Type: Glass
Panel Type: Mikes
Pedal Type: Thrustmaster
Build Status: Finishing glareshield lights then adding video to MFDs.  Still have to wire rotaries
Primary Display: Toshiba 36" HDTV
Video Adapter(s): nVidia
Sim Computer: Dell XPS Gen-4, P4HT 3.0, 2GB RAM, 70GB Disk
2nd Computer: Dell Dimmension 4850, P4 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM, 40GB Disk
Audio System: Logitech USB Headset
TrackIR (Y/N): Y
Unique Notes: Structurally modified Aimsworth pit

« Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 07:59:08 AM by Flareless »
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 10:03:52 AM »
ViperPit User Name: Helio Estrela
Callsign (If Different): Starcat
Name: Helio Estrela
Country:Brazil
Build Thread Sart Date: 10/ 16/ 2008
Block: 50/52
Seat Plans/Type: SCS modifyed
Switch Electronics: FSBus
Lamp Electronics: FSBus
MFD Electronics: FSBus
ICP Electronics: Iboard
Pit Software: OF, FalconGauges,
Glass Center Pedestal: Yes
Tub Design: my Own
Tub Material: Wood
Pedestal: Wood
Pedestal Monitor(s): Itautec 10?
Stick:Thrustmaster
MFD Type: Real converted
MFD Display Type: LCD 8?
ICP Type: my Own
Panels: my Own with back PCB with SMD Leds
Pedals: my Own
Gauges: my Own, aircore motors with FSBus
Build Status: Active, some gauges not active yet
Primary Display: Samsung 24"
Video Adapter(s): 2 Radeon cards 4850/4350
Sim Computer: Core 2 duo, 2GB RAM, 160GB disk
2nd Computer: none
Audio System: on board
TrackIR (Y/N): Y
Unique Notes: Matrox tripleHead2go (2MFd?s and CP)
« Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 09:48:38 PM by Helio Estrela »

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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 03:27:43 PM »
101-Douxx "Insane" fully operationnal Viper pit

ViperPit User Name: 101-Douxx
Callsign (If Different): Douxx
Name: Stephane Bourdouxhe
Country: Canada
Build Thread Sart Date: First one 2006 - New built thread... soon (I hope)
Seat Plans/Type: Front seater the real ACESII ; Back seater My own based on Speedone's plan
Switch Electronics: Beta Innovations
Lamp Electronics: Beta Innovations
MFD Electronics: Real matrixed with Beta Innovations's MM2
ICP Electronics: Real matrixed with Beta Innovations's MM2
Pit Software: Falcon OF 101ECV's one click install, Lightning's new FalconGauges, USIM
Glass Center Pedestal: Back seater YES ; Front seater NO
Tub Design: Real 2 seaters test bed
Tub Material: aluminum, metal
Pedestal: Front seater Real, Back seater Pegasus
Pedestal Monitor(s): Front seater Beta Innovations's instrumentation ; Back seater 10"
Stick: Front seater - Real with RibsStick ; Back seater - Thrustmaster with RibsStick
MFD Type: Real
MFD Display Type: 8"
ICP Type: Real
Panels: Front seater Beta Innovations's ; Back seater Mike's.
Pedals: Front seater Helio's replica ; Back seater Simped F-16+
Gauges: Beta Innovations
Build Status: On Stall because building a new lake house.
Primary Display: Samsung 24"
Video Adapter(s): ATIs.
Sim Computer: Front seater : Intel Quad core I7 - 8Gb RAM - 4 PCIx ATIs HD4000 series - 500Mb Hard drive.
2nd Computer: Back seater : Intel Core2 Duo - 4Mb RAM - 2 PCIx ATI HD2600 series - 250Mb hard drive.
Audio System: Logitech Pro pilot headset and SoundBlaster 5.1 surround sound system.
TrackIR (Y/N): First cockpit - TrackIR 3. Front seater - TrackIR 5. Back seater - TrackIR 4.
Unique Notes: Structurally modified real test bed "serial number 001" hybrid block 52 D model.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2010, 10:09:06 AM by 101-Douxx »
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 05:06:59 PM »
Ok, this is not going as well as I planned BUT - from the data we can see;

- More than half F-16 Pit Builders prefer Beta Innovation Electronics
- 1/3 of them will use real components while 1/3 would prefer to design it themselves and build it from wood
- All cockpit builders use FalconGauges
- The majority of builders are Canadian

As you can see, without more complete data the statistics are pretty much useless.

I am still going through the threads trying to get the data required but it would be a ton of help if you guys could take a moment and fill out the form.

In case you're interested there 161 build threads in my list.  These are actual project threads containing relevant data.  There are many threads that go; "Hey, I'm going to build a pit", "welcome to the nuthouse", "welcome", "welcome", etc....  These are not included.  Several threads do not contain pictures however a great deal of the text and links are still relevant and useful.  They are included.  I will be publishing a list of these threads and their links in the Pit Builders Cross Reference when it is complete.  Man, there are lot of old time names that only most of us old farts will remember.

Anyway, here are some interesting location stats;

Country   %
USA   33.0
Netherlands  14.6
Belgium   5.6
Australia   4.2
France   4.2
Italy    4.2
Denmark   3.5
Israel   3.5
Spain   3.5
UK    3.5
Canada   2.8
Germany   2.8
Greece   2.1
Austria   1.4
Norway   1.4
Portugal   1.4
South Africa   1.4
Brazil   0.7
Greenland   0.7
New Zeland   0.7
Poland   0.7
Saudi Arabia   0.7
Switzerland   0.7
Turkey   0.7

If the list is skewed or incomplete it's because 18 members didn't list their location (or I haven't found it yet).

87% of the build threads were started before 2009

Please help speed this up by filling out a form and summarizing a bit about your pit
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 05:11:31 PM by Flareless »
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2010, 05:37:16 PM »
Sorry Rich I will get to it soon promise
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 06:28:52 PM »
ViperPit User Name: eagle_wen
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Werner Boons
Country:Belgium
Build Thread Start Date: somewhere in the year 2002
Seat Plans/Type: Designed, build by myself, AcesII
Switch Electronics: Open Cockpits IOCards
Lamp Electronics: going to build myself
MFD Electronics: -
ICP Electronics: -
Pit Software: Falcon, MS FX10
Glass Center Pedestal: -
Tub Design: build by myself
Tub Material: Aluminium, Wood, plastic, fiberglass
Pedestal: build bu myself
Pedestal Monitor(s): -
Stick:-
MFD Type: -
MFD Display Type:-
ICP Type: -
Panels: build by myself
Pedals: build by myself
Gauges: build by myself
Build Status: Rudder, aces,VSI, Backup ADI, FTTI, Oil, hydr, airspeed, AOA, RPM 100% OK
                   Panels trim, ext lights, engine start, pitch override 100%OK (not connected yet)
                   Throttle 50% OK
                   Tub: 60% OK
Primary Display: -
Video Adapter(s): -
Sim Computer: -
2nd Computer: -
Audio System: -
Unique Notes: -
Seeya

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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 08:00:24 PM »
Rich,

PM sent . . . Hopefully, my F-16A unique information won't gum-up the works.

Jan  :beer:

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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 08:12:23 PM »
ViperPit User Name: Falc?o
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Ricardo Paulo
Country:Portugal
Build Thread Sart Date: September 2010
Seat Plans/Type: Speedones with reddog?s corrections, MDF
Switch Electronics: Leo Bodnar
Lamp Electronics: N/A
MFD Electronics: N/A
ICP Electronics: PCB by mysel interface, leo?s bodnar board
Pit Software: MFD Extractor, Lightning's SM Mirror.
Glass Center Pedestal: Yes
Tub Design: My own design
Tub Material: MDF
Pedestal: MDF Wood, my own design
Pedestal Monitor(s): Sharp 10.4"
Stick:Thrustmaster Cougar, FCC-2, and Casual button caps
MFD Type: Thrustmaster
MFD Display Type:Samsung Photoframes 7"
ICP Type: Mike?s faceplate & buttons with Strale?s thumbwheels add on
Panels: Mike and some real ones
Pedals: Saitek
Gauges: N/A
Build Status: Working hard
Primary Display: Acer 22"
Video Adapter(s): nVidia 8800 GTS 512
Sim Computer: Motherboard ASUS, Proc. Dualcore 3.0GHz 2GB RAM 250GB hard
2nd Computer: Matsonic MB, Pentium IV 2.5Ghz Processor, 1Gb memory (needs upgrade)
Audio system: SoundBlast audigy, and some cheap headsets
Unique Notes: N/A
« Last Edit: April 23, 2011, 05:28:20 PM by Falc »
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 08:45:04 PM »
Thanks Guys!  Got the PM Jan

I've added one more thing to the form; Block
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 10:08:53 PM »
Nice idea Rich,

Here's mine

ViperPit User Name: Ghost
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Danny
Country: Netherlands
Build Thread Start Date:
Block: 10/15 MLU
Seat Design/Type: Own/Rayman's
Switch Electronics: PHCC
Lamp Electronics: PHCC
Gauge Electronics: Own design for PHCC
MFD Electronics: PHCC
ICP Electronics: PHCC
Pit Software: Own development (PHCC-IO, EHSI, ODED, ALR-69, eADI, EWMS)
Glass Center Pedestal: No
Tub Design/Type: Own design
Tub Material: Alu
Pedestal: Jason's design
Pedestal Monitor(s): 5" VGA TFT (EHSI), 5" VGA TFT (eADI)
Stick: Thrustmaster Cougar + FCC2
MFD Type: Real MFD's
MFD Display Type: 8" VGA 1024x768
ICP Type: Mike's
Panels: Mike's
Pedals: None yet
Gauges: Real gauges (converted)
Build Status: in progress
Primary Display: Samsung 37" HDTV
Video Adapter(s): 3x nVidia
Sim Computer: Intel i5, 4GB DDR3
2nd Computer: none
Audio System: Soundblaster xFi
Unique Notes:
« Last Edit: July 16, 2012, 12:35:39 AM by Ghost »
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 01:16:57 AM »
ViperPit User Name: Nigel
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Dave
Country: USA
Build Thread Start Date: April 9 2008!! Holy shite, that long?
Block: front seat of D model block 30 ANG with TERMA EWAPS
Seat Design/Type: ACES II real, ugrade version with 50 c.i. bottle and inertia access door
Switch Electronics: Beta Innovations
Lamp Electronics: Beta Innovations
Gauge Electronics: Beta Innovations
MFD Electronics: Beta Innovations
ICP Electronics: Beta Innovations
Pit Software: USIM, MFDE, Pegasus' DED, BMS 4.32 Dev
Glass Center Pedestal: No
Tub Design/Type: USAF Cockpit Familiarization Trainer
Tub Material: Aluminum
Pedestal: real, cast aluminum
Pedestal Monitor(s): 3.5" LCD in the EHSI
Additional Monitors: 5" LCD for HUD, 4.8" LCD for ATD/RWR
Stick: real Block 50 grip and base
MFD Type: Real bezels
MFD Display Type: 6.5" LCD
ICP Type: real Block 30
Panels: real Block 30
Pedals: real F16
Gauges: main eight are Beta Innovations, CP are SIMTEK, MALWIN, AMI, ASTRONAUTICS
Build Status: two more weeks, two more weeks, two more weeks...
Primary Display: Three LG plasma 50" monitors bought from Costco for $799 each
Sim Computer: 780i nVidia MOBO nvidia GTS 250 video cards, TRH2GO, TRACKIR
2nd Computer: none so far except Mac Intel for testing
Audio System: Plantronics headphones and ButtKicker sub
Unique Notes: I am insane
« Last Edit: January 12, 2012, 06:08:50 AM by Nigel »

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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2010, 03:33:18 AM »
ViperPit User Name: Falcas
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Carolus Burgers
Country:The Netherlands
Build Thread Start Date: April 2006 (Akers Barnes) Nov 2009 (Full pit)
Block: Mix 50/52
Seat Plans/Type: Got the seat.
Switch Electronics: X-keys
Lamp Electronics: AIC
MFD Electronics: X-keys
ICP Electronics: X-Keys
Pit Software: AIC, MFDE
Glass Center Pedestal: yes
Tub Design: Everything I could find on VP.
Tub Material: Wood (MDF)
Pedestal: Climbers design
Pedestal Monitor(s): 10.4" TFT (SPD, ALT, ADI, VVI, AOA), 3.5" TFT (HSI)
Stick:Thrustmaster, FCC-2 (+ MLU)
MFD Type: Real F-16
MFD Display Type: LCD 8''
ICP Type: Mike
Panels: Mike
Pedals: Simped F-16+
Gauges: AIC / glass
Build Status: Full working
Primary Display: Iiyama 26"
Video Adapter(s): nVidia
Sim Computer: I7
2nd Computer:
Audio System:
Unique Notes:
« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 11:22:09 AM by Falcas »
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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2010, 04:35:37 AM »
ViperPit User Name: Red Dog
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Olivier
Country: Belgium
Build Thread Start Date: July 29, 2004
Block: hybrid B50/B52 with MLU colours
Seat Design/Type: homemade Aces2, modified from Speedone's drawing
Switch Electronics: 2 Xkeys matrices + 2 Leo bodnar BU0836x for encoders and extra analogue axis
Lamp Electronics: leds 5v, standard genuine 12 & 24v bulbs
Gauge Electronics: MFDE
MFD Electronics: Xkeys matrix
ICP Electronics: Xkeys matrix
Pit Software: UCC/AIC
Glass Center Pedestal: no (LCD + genuine gauge bezels
Tub Design/Type: homemade
Tub Material: wood (MDF 18- 12 - 8 - 3 mm)
Pedestal: wood + resin - Killn's plans adapted for 10.4 screen = 6mm wider
Pedestal Monitor(s): 10.4 Sharp LCD + 3.5 Avionics LCD
Stick: Cougar/Warthog FCC2
MFD Type: reals
MFD Display Type: 6.4 inches phillips
ICP Type: Drit's ICP
Panels: Mike's laser panels
Pedals: Realsimulator
Gauges: homemade/Ray's bezels
Build Status: COMPLETE
Primary Display: Dell 24inch at 1920x1200
Video Adapter(s): Nvidia 8800GT (PCIe) / Nvidia 7600GT (PCIe)/ Nvidia 6600 (Pci)
Sim Computer: Core 2 Duo @ 3.3Ghz
2nd Computer: none
Audio System: onboard
Unique Notes:
 
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 03:43:11 AM by Red Dog »

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Re: Viper Builder Database
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2010, 05:14:52 AM »
ViperPit User Name: Tulkas
Callsign (If Different):
Name: Marcel
Country: Living in Norway, born in Spain
Build Thread Start Date: October 31, 2008
Block: B52
Seat Design/Type: homemade Aces2, modified from Speedone's drawing
Switch Electronics: Xkeys
Lamp Electronics: AIC
Gauge Electronics: MFDE-AIC
MFD Electronics: -
ICP Electronics: Jay
Pit Software: AIC
Glass Center Pedestal: no (LCD + gauge bezels
Tub Design/Type: homemade from womba's pit and Jim trainer dimensions
Tub Material: wood (MDF 19- 12mm)
Pedestal: wood + metal - Pegasus CAD plans adapted for 10.4 screen and modded following Red Dog build
Pedestal Monitor(s): 10.4 Sharp LCD + 4.8" LCD
Stick: Cougar FCC2
MFD Type: -
MFD Display Type: 8 inches
ICP Type: Modded Killin's plans + Mike/Jay ICP
Panels: Mike's laser panels
Pedals: CH
Gauges: Mike/Local source
Build Status: ACESII complete, ICP complete
Primary Display: LG 47 inches, Full HD, 1920x1080, 1080p, 60Hz
Video Adapter(s): Ab]ASUS ATI 4850 (PCIe) / ASUS ATI 3450 (PCIe)[/b]
Sim Computer: Core 2 Duo @ 3.2Ghz
2nd Computer: none
Audio System: onboard
Unique Notes:
« Last Edit: August 04, 2013, 04:53:28 PM by Tulkas »