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Title: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 31, 2008, 06:48:13 AM
Well, by now I've been around for a while watching and asking. Now finally are starting to pop up around my house some "stuffs" that could -somehow- look like parts of a F16 cockpit, so maybe was time to start my own progress thread.

First af all I have to acknowledge the inspirational sources that dragged me into this crazy project. Around a year ago I though it would be cool to put together some buttons to have an ICP and somehow I ended up in this web, well, the old one.

And then I saw Red Dog progress thread. I read it from the first to the last page at once. It was a revelation, that guy started with two pieces of MDF and ended with a F16 cockpit.

Later I discovered Raymond's cockpit and more and more of all the amazing work which is being done by the people here.

The low-budget-bunch-of-buttons-ICP that I had in mind changed for ever. Now all I could think is "complete-fully-functional" F16 cockpit. Damn! 

I though it was fair to give a recognition to those guys which are working with the camera at hand, and take the time and trouble to document their progress by writting, I think they do much more that just share their construction ideas, the hook people into the hobby -like myself- and more people increase the demand for Viper products, keeping the developing and fabrication going on.
 
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Now it's time for me to start.

My minipit has paied me a great service during the last one and a half year, when I was moving too often to have anything else that a folding-easy-to-transport pit. Is going to be in service for some more time while it sees a f16 cockpit growing around, until is time to substitute it for an ACESII (kind of).

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P3260011.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P3260014.jpg)

I want to build so I don't have to wait to the full cockpit to use it, but to incorporate every little progress to the flight line.

Let's start with the DED, which the first part completly finish. Looking for a Z-10 a very cheap used G-15 popped up and I couldn't say no.

No innovation here, just following other's steps: http://www.eaglevision.nu/g15_pfd.php

Combined with the fantastic software that AiRdAnCe has put together for us: http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=3232.0

In a office material shop found a plastic transparent green folder which could help to give a more accurate color to the display:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5100085.jpg)

Stripped the poor keyboard:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5100094.jpg)

Miracle, still working!:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5100097.jpg)

Right away noticed why nobody use the G-15 for DED and prefer the Z-10: the PCB is way to long for a DED box and the ribbon is way too short to hide the board on any place.

Only I could think is leave the PCB sticking out to the left and make a hole in the ICP housing to hide it:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5190088.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5190095.jpg)

Some mastic, sandpaper,  black spray and a front cover cut out from a CD box:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5290085.jpg)

A DED USB plug&play:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5290087.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Reboot on October 31, 2008, 10:26:30 AM
Hi Tulkas.
                         What a grate start, I hope to follow in your foot steps one day.
I just love the DED G-15 Ida. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 31, 2008, 03:18:03 PM
Thanks for the feedback Reboot.

Now is time for some work in the ICP housing. My Jay-Mike ICP has been sleeping too long in the "chest of the treasure", that?s how I call the box where I put all the pit-items I buy, now is full with packages from all around the world and it is time to statr to use some of them to make place for new ones :D

This ICP is so far the jewel of the crown, I purchased many months ago from Lighthing and I have been looking forward to make a housing worth of it. I started with the amazing Jason?s plans like base but I plan to make modifications along the way to adapt them to my way of building, my materials and the external finish that I want.

The beggining is always slow and boring:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9200080.jpg)

 I used a very close foto that I made in Rygge (Norway) to try to make the fingerguards more realistic:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/HUDbox1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9220102.jpg)

Pitbuiilders best friends:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9260082.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9250081.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9260084.jpg)

Lower part:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9280085.jpg)

Starting to look like something:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9290087.jpg)

The upper arc:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9300082.jpg)

Checking dimensions (couldn?t way to see it in position :D ):

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA010085.jpg)

I don?t want the top of the housing to be so flat and boring so I search the web and I find some pictures in Red Dog?s thread:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=537.825

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P3190086.jpg)

Not accurate at all but doesn?t matter to me, is just eye candy. I have a couple of ideas for the HUD lense.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P3280091.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Red Dog on October 31, 2008, 04:13:55 PM
Wow Tulkas, great craftmanship on a very hard to reproduce part

Now if my wife sees me using a genuine table to cut my wood, she'll cut my finger...
but that's just her, she knows how awkward I am  :D
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Killn on October 31, 2008, 04:34:49 PM
Tulkas, excellent job!!   :beer:

I love the added detail!

Cheers,
Jason
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Cannon on October 31, 2008, 04:59:31 PM
Looks pretty!
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: GunMan on October 31, 2008, 05:25:53 PM
Great job Tulkas :) !

Just a little note - the humidity sensor (kinda hole in the rear of the part) is placed on the left side only, IIRC there's nothing on the right side (but I may be wrong ?).
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 31, 2008, 05:49:54 PM
Thanks guys, I am just an apprentice of all you  :-[

Now if my wife sees me using a genuine table to cut my wood, she'll cut my finger...
but that's just her, she knows how awkward I am  :D

Well, my wife and I are currently looking for a house with simulator room and workshop, in the meanwhile we have arrive to a compromise: I mess our little flat with wood a paint and she yells at me :D

Great job Tulkas :) !

Just a little note - the humidity sensor (kinda hole in the rear of the part) is placed on the left side only, IIRC there's nothing on the right side (but I may be wrong ?).

You are totally right, I saw that on a picture just after finishing the wood work, so it was to late :mad:. Don?t tell anybody!! :D

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Squid on October 31, 2008, 06:06:31 PM
It s not so bad, a little piece of wood with some putty and no more right humidity sensor  :whistle:
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: KK on October 31, 2008, 06:54:25 PM
Tulkas,
have you got more of these close-up shots from Rygge?
If yes, please post them here.
Tnx
Klaus
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on October 31, 2008, 09:33:55 PM
Very nice woodwork!
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 02, 2008, 12:01:28 PM
As I said, I had a few ideas for the imitation of the HUD lens. First I bought a cople of glass bowls to place them up side down but didn?t like the shape of the bottom. Finally I saw in a shop magnifying glass for people with bad sight to read, it was 13cm diameter, way smaller than the real thing but I don?t care if it looks nice:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P5300085.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6040089.jpg)

Now I had to see how to make the hole where it is placed:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6040090.jpg)

First I cut some stencils in paper:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6040091.jpg)

But I didn?t figure out what material to use, plastic? metal? I was thinking these things when taking out the garbage and together with it the old screen we used when Eco -my dog- had an injure in a leg...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P5310087.jpg)

... then I though that plastic was the perfect material :D

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6050092.jpg)

Going back to the lens: everything necesary to give it a nice touch is a plywood support, a black spray painted piece of cardboard (from a corn flake box) and a piece from the same transparent-green folder I used for the DED:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6080094.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6080098.jpg)

I have found a yellow base paint which looks a little like the one that appears under the gray paint on the ral parts. I will use so when my cockpit gets old it will do in a "realistic way", like weathering a model but by actual use.

I tested it wuth the ICP housing and it looks ok:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6090099.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P6090101.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: heines on November 02, 2008, 12:18:04 PM
that's one nice hud box  :thumbsup: exelent work
love the details on it

keep it up

 :vprules:
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Wolfman on November 02, 2008, 01:34:30 PM
stripped the dog for spare parts...  :o guess you are first. But given the superb looking progress on your pit, I think it's more than justified :thumbsup:
Keep up the good work, love to see more
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Reboot on November 02, 2008, 01:43:30 PM
stripped the dog for spare parts... 
Now that was funny?.  :D


       I?ve heard of striping the wife?s car for parts, but that?s the best so far.
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Helio Estrela on November 02, 2008, 02:10:12 PM
OK Gepeto  :harhar:
You know that's realy cool
congrats
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on November 02, 2008, 02:20:21 PM
That HUD box is a real beauty :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 03, 2008, 05:42:47 AM
Thanks guys for all the good feedback, is so nice to come to viperpits to show your work and nobody asks you "you are building WHAT?" :D

stripped the dog for spare parts...  :o guess you are first. But given the superb looking progress on your pit, I think it's more than justified :thumbsup:
Keep up the good work, love to see more

Believe me, he was more than happy seeing that hideous thing cut apart :D

--------

Some small progress, talking about stripping wife's property: a lipstick case make a perfect HUD camera, I swear it was empty and I got permission to take it :)


(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6120087.jpg)

I want to start to use my ICP-DED right away so I have made support to fix them to the desktop while the CP is being made:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6120088.jpg)

I also made a very nice finding, I was having a hard time with the putty and sandpaper to make the rough plywood surface as smooth as I wanted. Then my wife came back from the car painting workshop where she has bought spray to fix a small scratch on our car, they also gave her the sandpaper they use to fix scratches.

Of course I had to try and it was impressive, turned the plywood surface into metal or plastic, perfect finish!

One never finish sandpapering when building a pit  :rambling:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6190087.jpg)

But it was all worth, three layers of black spray, and other three of transparent matt cover:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200087.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200088.jpg)

Pretty happy with the result. Another finding was that using of a normal hairdryer makes the drying almost instantaneous so you don't have to wait (for ever now in Norway, is very cold and wet in the garage) and you get less shit stuck in the fresh paint.


Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: GunMan on November 03, 2008, 05:57:15 AM
OMFG  :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :o :o :o

That looks AWESOME !!!

Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: Squid on November 03, 2008, 06:46:32 AM
Really impressive  :hail:
Title: Re: Tulka's simulator - progress
Post by: bnepethomas on November 03, 2008, 06:47:59 AM
Nice work on the hud box, very smick
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: 101-Douxx on November 03, 2008, 09:00:48 AM
WOW!!!
Looks like the real thing... :hail:

Very impressive work. :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: dark knight on November 03, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
   GREAT WORK KEEP IT UP. :beer:                                                                                 
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: lightning on November 03, 2008, 11:15:54 AM
WOW
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: heines on November 03, 2008, 11:21:47 AM
 :o  ....................................... speechless................................................... :o
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Strale on November 03, 2008, 12:25:08 PM
Great Job there !

 :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Reboot on November 03, 2008, 12:45:11 PM
Tulkas you are now on my, (I am watching you list).    :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Zandor on November 03, 2008, 03:04:27 PM
I love to see things like turn out that good when built from scratch!

Keep up the good work

Z
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 04, 2008, 03:02:01 AM
Thanks guys!

I am very happy with this part, looks nicer that I though I could get. I was learning new things as I moved forward and the combination of car sandpaper and spray painting turned really well.

Let's finish this thing and put it to work.

Small details, the screw at the bottom of the fingerguards.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200090.jpg)

Of course, the lens. Doesn't stand a direct comparation with the real thing, but I don't care, it looks good :) :

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200094.jpg)

Now I have to put some guts inside:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200095.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200098.jpg)

And some pictures:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200100.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200101.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200092.jpg)

With the DED, where is now that long anoying PCB? :) :

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200102.jpg)

The support is awating:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200103.jpg)

It looks strange, a little piece of an F16 on my desktop:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200104.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6200109.jpg)

And finishing:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6190088.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6230085.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6230086.jpg)

I didn't want the cover to look too perfect:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6230088.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Red Dog on November 04, 2008, 03:53:18 AM
Wonderful Tulkas
Now, put two MFDs there below and you've got the best desktop cockpit available. You don't need anything else for a desktop pit. ICP, DED and two MFds with screens.
Ha, you don't build a desktop unit? You go for the full option pit  :harhar:

Very well done, congrats
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: AiRdAncE on November 04, 2008, 04:38:36 AM
I agree, one hell of a job !  :yihaw:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rayman on November 04, 2008, 04:56:45 AM
Awesome job Tulkas, looks great!!!! :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: magoo on November 04, 2008, 05:28:48 AM
Thanks to share these pics Tulkas, they are very useful to me.
Could you post some dimensions, please? I've almost finished my center pedestal structure and now it's the time of ICP's strut.
Thanks again.. ;)


Really a well done work !!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 04, 2008, 08:36:51 AM
Ha, you don't build a desktop unit? You go for the full option pit  :harhar:

Yes, I took that -fatal- step in my head some time ago. Now I only can think FULL FULLY FUNCTIONAL VIPER PIT, anything less than that is just not acceptable. And you are one the guilties for this crazy idea  :D

Thanks to share these pics Tulkas, they are very useful to me.
Could you post some dimensions, please? I've almost finished my center pedestal structure and now it's the time of ICP's stand.
Thanks again.. ;)


Really a well done work !!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks for the compliments Magoo, I really appreciate  coming from you because I have seen your impressive work with wood.

The messures of the ICP housing are those from Jason's -Killn- plans, you should get in contact with him in order to get them, they are totally worth. The rest is just ornamentation from my side, not very dimensional accurate actually.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: ShockWave on November 04, 2008, 10:46:14 PM
Wow Tulkas,

I just ran accross your build.

Very nice work; Great job! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 10, 2009, 03:29:44 AM
Wow! Time past fast. And the cockpit grows so slowly. No espectacular updates in my cockpit but a lot of parts have arrived, a lot of planning and decisions have been taken and somehow I think I have a clearer path ahead, still long.

No real updates in the cockpit as I said but some updates that will have -I hope- a decisive impact in the progress of my project, we moved to a new house -our first house- at the end of the spring and as result now I have two of the most -I think- important things a pit builder could wish:

An exclusive Sim-room:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5040165.jpg)

A workshop:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5040168.jpg)

Until now I had not too much time to work in the cockpit with the moving and all that it means, I had high priority tasks like preparing the new house of Eco, my dog:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/CASA/P1300114.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/CASA/P2070116.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/CASA/P2070117.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/eco/P4030163.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/eco/P4030164.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/eco/P4030162.jpg)

I have to say I am specially proud of the dog house, my first one and from the scratch, I hope my pit come along that well :D

Good thing is working on this allowed me to smuggler some material to the workshop and mix the construction of my workbench and shelfs with the dog house without being notice by the big boss (my wife:cutey:) :D so when I finished with all that work, my workshop was (magicaly) ready as well. Also meny new tools that where "essential" for the house work will be very welcome in the pit building and their cost will not be attached to the pit budget  :whistle:

But now I am back on the track and since this a pit progress thread les show some small work in the misc. panel. The misc. "box" will be made in wood, but I had to make some kind of "backplate" to attach the switches. This little crappy plate took me hours of hard work, that means I will never have a metal pit and that I admire (and hate ;) )even more all those around here -Nightowl, Aeyes,...- that are able to work metal:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5040173.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5040169.jpg)

I have some wonderful flat head switches (thanks Squid!) that needed to be modified to go from momentary to lock-lock. I have seen people open them and remove the spring but I tried another approach I believe is easier an faster, and lest risky to destroy it. Some seconds of careful work with the dremel...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5040176.jpg)

And perfect lock-lock, you can compare here original and modified

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5040177.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on September 10, 2009, 05:27:16 AM
Hey Tulkas!
Great job, mate!! The doghouse looks great, and Eco will be a big help. But he lost a lot of weight and looks more like a rabbit than a dog.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on September 10, 2009, 05:47:54 AM
Hey some of that plastic CD cover for the inner hole in the humidity sensor will look very real. They have glass in them.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on September 10, 2009, 09:22:41 PM
Congrats on the house Tulkas!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: 101-Douxx on September 10, 2009, 11:53:24 PM
Indeed Tulkas!
Great additions for the cockpit builder.

I wouldn't give away my pitroom/garage/workshop for anything... :o
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 11, 2009, 04:05:13 AM
Thanks guys!

I need a bit of help here, somebody could tell me how deep is the misc. panel support? The dim showed in the picture. Does the misc. have backlightt? I believe I have read around here it doesn't.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/a19b.jpg)

Thanks

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nikolas_A on September 11, 2009, 04:14:04 AM
I don't have the dim but it does have backlight. The "+" symbol left of the "ALT REL" is the point where you have to push to make sure the Hoffman connector for the backlight is properly seated.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 11, 2009, 08:39:09 AM
All this time I have not been totally idle regarding pit building, with a little work now and then I have almost complete the center pedestal as you can see in my workshop picture some posts above.

The start point are the Pegasus center pedestal plans that he kindly has available for free download in his website:

http://www.xflight.de/pe_sim_cas_cec.htm#Plans

Then I heavily modified it to look like Red Dog center pedestal since I was going for the same solution than him, with a screen inside the pedestal and a main console of one piece. This is Red Dog's:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/484_woodCP.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/493_CP.jpg)

You can read the process in his thread (as if some one haven't read it yet ;) )

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=537.660

I didn't bother myself with calculations about all those angles, I just placed solid wood pieces in the corners and sandpapered them down until they had the correct shape. A hell of a work, but less thinking and more acting and I prefer that, very often I have to regret.

 I also modified the wide to what I thought I would need. As you can see my way of working is a bit caothic, taking bits from everywhere, often working on visual apparence rather than dimensions... and that modus operandi leads often to mistakes, like in this case. Looking at my pedestal there was something not quite right:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9160096.jpg)

Hummm... then I messured it and... crap! almost 3cm wider than the real (Pegasus' ) one. Somewhere in the midel of so many modifications I make a mistake (probably with the thickness of the material) and now the CP was much wider than necesary for the screen. That was a lot but -I know saying this is a blasfemy in VP ;) - after the first cursings, I didn't care anymore. It's wider so it be, very few that visit my simulator will ever notice :)

And the mistake had it's adventages, now I had space (tight but enough) to place the FUEL QTY and INST. panels beside the HSI screen:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9160097.jpg)

It was a hell to fit that little screen and its board there and now I plan to change it for the Century USB one if (I get this to work because is messing badly with my drivers). A friend of my could cut and bend a piece of metal for the front side. Unluckly he did not have the tools to make the gauges cutouts so I had som work to do with the dremel.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9040091.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9040092.jpg)

Then some very boring work to cut out in the bezzels to make space for the tiny encoders:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB300094.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB300095.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB300096.jpg)

Some testing with FalconGauges. Amazing software, for some weeks I had the cp like to fly because I didn't want to take my eyes off those gauges :)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/P9250103.jpg)

But I had to keep on working so I took it apart and drilled holes to fit rotaries, switches and panels. I also got the air vent from Kneeling Warrior. I was surprise. I have to be honest, it was my first order from him, I expected that plastic replicas casted by a guy in his house would be low quality and I was ready to work filling bubbles, cutting plastic excesses, sandpaper... but instead  I got a perfect replica in quality and hard material and very high defined details. Top notch work and now I cannot wait for the moment to put in my pit his cockpit side replicas!

I made a metalic plate for the vent. How I hate to work metal!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PC240128.jpg)

Fitting testing:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PC260093.jpg)

That's it for now. Don't you guys forget about the MISC. PANEL dimension please! I want to finish it ;)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on September 11, 2009, 10:21:22 AM
I'll get dims to you this evening,
love the update
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: 101-Douxx on September 11, 2009, 10:27:57 AM
Really great works!
 :thumbsup:
Nice update.
 :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on September 11, 2009, 02:40:11 PM
Hey Tulkas!
GREAT job, mate! I will keep shouting this, don't worry about "correct" size if you need to make adjustments. What is far more important is to get the thing built and have fun flying. I can't see the difference from my house and believe me, no one will criticize you for putting together a working CP no matter what you have to do. You are doing a great thing here with the EHSI and FG4. There is no right or wrong way to build your pit, once it's painted and plugged in it will be as good as any other. Keep it up, dude! Thanks for the pics. I sometimes envy the guys that use wood.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Reboot on September 11, 2009, 03:00:40 PM
Awesome job Tulkas.
                                  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 28, 2009, 04:55:38 AM
Work started on the ACESII. Sources:

-SpeedOne's plans: http://www.simpits.org/x_files/HowToAceII.PDF
-Xflight: http://xflight.de/pg_org_par_ace.htm
-Red Dog's progress report: http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=537.0
-A lot of good pictures of real ACESII downloaded here in the forum but I don't remember where  :-[ I think was Aeyes who uploaded them.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5110175.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5140166.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5140165.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5140167.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P5230169.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P6060192.jpg)

I have decided is no point to keep on with the other parts (CP, main console) if I don't have the center tub and the ACESII before because is difficult to use them with my current seat. So priority No.1 now is finish the ACESII.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: 101-Douxx on October 28, 2009, 08:03:36 AM
That is a great start.

Loves the wood head rest, nice craftmanship. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: magoo on October 29, 2009, 05:13:57 AM
That makes me remember when I started my own Aces II, some year ago....

Very nice job Tulkas ! :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Mavrck on October 29, 2009, 11:04:44 AM
Looking good.  Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 26, 2009, 05:32:51 AM
Carry on with the ACESII, added alu profiles to attach metallic sheets with blind rivets "a la RD":

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7010165.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7070167.jpg)

Started work on the sides:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7030166.jpg)

The rolls on the head rest:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7120166.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7120167.jpg)

And "the oh God, I cannot sandpaper any more" knee and leg protections.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7180168.jpg)

I got some nice items in the mail:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7180172.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7180173.jpg)

And for just 30 bucks this one from ebay. Is not a F16s but once painted gray I think it will look great. And it was non used, sealed in its factory package so it is fully functional in case I want to put the strappers to the seat some day....

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7180174.jpg)

An oxy bottle is on its way to me right now.

An important item I need now is the arm lever or at least the dimensions so I can built a mock up just to help me to design the mechanism that will be inside the right side of the seat. So if anybody can pass me the dims I will be very grateful. Is anybody producing metallic arm levers??

Also I need a good set of stickers for the seat, I think I remember someone was selling them?

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: PopTops on November 26, 2009, 07:19:17 AM
Look what a man can do with skills and a "little" wood :thumbsup:

Keep it up man, it's great. I never thought myself it would give that much of satisfaction when you see a pit "growing up". :cheerleader: ::)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 21, 2009, 08:32:41 AM
Everybody here knows the "bumps" on the sides of the ACESII. I have been thinking about them very long, how to make those rounded shapes? You had the easy way, just cut a flat shape. But I wanted the bumps...

Eventually I decided to use a round piece of wood so at least some of the round shape was already there. 

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7240172.jpg)

I cut a strip as wide as the real element

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7240173.jpg)

sandpaper the corners to round

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7290176.jpg)

sandpaper the top to round

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7290178.jpg)

and repeat ten times! don't ask me to do it again! 

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7290181.jpg)

Now another of the elements of the cockpit I have been thinking a lot lately. And this one is really important, from its correct execution depends much of the cockpit good working: the base where the seat will rest. The base will  decided crucial dimensions like the height of the pilot, distance to the front panel and leaning.

First I prepare the base of the second module (of four that will form my cockpit).

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8140194.jpg)

Later the base for the seat made considering the pilot's eye respect the ICP, the famous 30 degrees of the F16's seat and a bunch of pictures from real cockpits. Everything together with AutoCAD and some tests and I get this impressive piece of engineering...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8140195.jpg)

Well, maybe not so impressive. I have to reinforce it since it will carry the seat and my own weight which both together will exceed largely 100kg... The same piece will attach together front and central modul.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8140193.jpg)

I made a fast assembly test just with seat pan. I sat on it and feels to be right even if when I stand and look at it looks to be leaning to much. I will not know until the seat is complete and I can put on place.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8140191.jpg)

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: PopTops on December 21, 2009, 08:34:14 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on December 21, 2009, 08:49:10 AM
Great work Tulkas. Keep it going, we love the pics. If you need any measurements, let me know.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Reboot on December 21, 2009, 08:49:39 AM
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P7290178.jpg)

and repeat ten times! don't ask me to do it again! 

     Don?t ask me to do it again;
What do you mean; we all need a set of those, so get back to work.    :-P


  Exelent work  Tulkas. :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 25, 2009, 12:10:02 PM
I have the coolest wife ever, check out what she got me for Christmas!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8190176.jpg)

She did not use ebay or have any contact with people at viperpits or in the hobby. She told that she just sat one hour in the phone calling everywhere until finding the correct person in the country. My wife rulez!

And of courseI could no resist to put somethings together just for the picture :)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8190169.jpg)

Great work Tulkas. Keep it going, we love the pics. If you need any measurements, let me know.
Nigel

Thank you very much Nigel. Indeed it would be a great if you can give me dimensions for the seat rails. Mainly section and how high they go over the edge of the seat. I am thinking that if I make fake reails I will save time not making the wheels and other elements that are under.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: TOR on December 25, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
Hi Tulkas!

That is some fine woodwork progress there.... I love your results on the "bumps"...

... and I am sure your wife loves you  ;D

And, if I may be honest - if you go through all that fine work of detailing the seat you had better mount the wheels/rollers as well  :rambling:

May also come in handy when you install the seat adjustment-system.

Cheers,

TOR
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 12, 2010, 08:31:17 AM

And, if I may be honest - if you go through all that fine work of detailing the seat you had better mount the wheels/rollers as well  :rambling:

May also come in handy when you install the seat adjustment-system.


Hehe! seat adjustment system! That's too fancy for me. My poor seat will be just screwd to the structure once I find the perfect position for it. It won't move at all. So wheels, rails, etc... will be just eyecandy, and sice the rails are going to be on top of the wheels I don't think I will waste time on those. But I will try to make a pretty rails ;)

 I worked on the seat. Hard fight with the metal sheets. The result is not perfect but good enough. I don't think I can get it any better with my tools. I used steel and maybe is not so easy to work with as alu.

Planing the task

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8200177.jpg)

Fights on!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8200178.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P8200179.jpg)

The problem of working without real parts and later adding them is you cand find the don't fit. Speedone's plans make a good job but they are not perfect. The curves in backrest are slighly different (too late for me to correct thoses) and the seatpan is quite different, I had to make some cut out on the wood and patch the metal to fit the seat pad. The front part bends downwards too much but those are not possible to change now.

I wish that when I started with the seat I knew what I know now, but anyway I think I will get a nice looking ACESII when finish:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9040217.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9040215.jpg)

And right now I have an incoming parachute container from USA   :yihaw: I am very excited to see how difficult will be to fit that one. Honestly never thought of buying one since prices were crazy and I totally refused to colaborate -mainly for principle, I think bidding wars backfires to our own small comunity- with the f16 junk inflaction. But it looks things are more calm lately and I got this one at good price and direct sell. Not planing to get one can give me some headache to get it on now though.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: 101-Douxx on January 12, 2010, 11:17:51 AM
Maybe not perfect...

But looking frikin' great!!!
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: BullDog on January 13, 2010, 02:52:22 AM
Awesome Tulkas a credit to what can be done in wood
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: MicaGR on January 13, 2010, 04:10:16 AM
Pretty nice... :clap:
I like your ACES II and your HUD you made in the beginning of your project  ;)
Check pm  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 25, 2010, 04:33:11 AM
Hi guys. I need some help here.

I am not happy with the seat pan shape from Speedone's plans, they are way off the real thing and you notice when you put the real butt cushions on top. so I am thinking to redo or fix it somehow to get more accurate with the curves at the top.

All I need is someone to post a straight side picture (profile) of the real seat pan. No need dimensions or anything else, I can take the picture to CAD, scale it and draw the curves.

Thank you very much!

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 01, 2010, 03:37:40 AM
The wrong shape of my seat pan has been annoying me and I used some days trying to decide if it was worth to go throught al the trouble to correct it. Well, actually I decided pretty soon it was not worth but I eneded doing it antway. My pitsickness its' getting worse I guess.

It is the front part from Speedone's plans what is wrong:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/modseatpan.jpg)

This small modification means a lot of work when the seat was almost finished:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9230176.jpg)

In the other hand I just got in the mail a item that for me is one of the most iconic of viperpit building: the parachute container. I wasn't really planing to get one so now I will have to work to modify de seat for it to fit:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9230172.jpg)

However my parachute container came with a huge erection  :o

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/P9230175.jpg)

Which I have not been able yet to reduce. So I am considering to cut and removing totally the spring. If any of you guys have available the stripe and the pin to close and hold the top, I am interested.

Cheers

Tulkas



Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on February 01, 2010, 05:14:48 AM
Tulkas
I know it may be blasphemy to some, but I took out the spring in mine. That thing is a major PITA to get back in and I dont have time to waste fighting it for something utterly useless. Some foam rubber will look just like a chute IMHO.
Nigel
P.S. Dont forget what happened to Red Dog messing around with that pin.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: KK on February 01, 2010, 05:35:15 AM
To put this damn thing back in is not more than 10 minutes work for 1 person:
Undo the straps (as you don't have them anyway is 9 minutes for you)
Push it in, close 2 flaps with a screwdriver across the holes
Take a short breath/brake
Push it harder in and close the other 2 flaps on top of it
Insert a cable binder
Remove the screwdriver
Attach the straps.

DO the above procedure with your face OUT OF THE WAY (otherwise you might become
a candidate for face reconstruction surgery CMF).

I really recommend to leave a cable binder permanently in for security reasons.

IF you have the pilot chute which goes on top of that spring you definitely will not manage
to do this without someone elses help.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 02, 2010, 05:13:34 AM
Thank you very much KK, I will follow your advices.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 01, 2010, 04:14:08 AM
It has been a hard work to get the parachute container to fit.

On one side the dimensions of the seat and headrest were almost perfect so that was not a problem. The problems came from the top being flat so I had to make many cut outs and remove wood to make geooves. It was messy, difficult and not pretty but it won't be seen anyway.



(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA220177.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA220178.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA220179.jpg)

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: netmav on March 01, 2010, 06:39:26 AM
Looking good, Tulkas!  :thumbsup:

Keep it up.


\Martin
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on March 01, 2010, 07:25:02 AM
Great looking seat, keep working on that baby and it will turn out great.
at least you have something to sit on now  :thumbsup:  ;)

Kukki
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: ShockWave on March 02, 2010, 02:07:35 PM
Very Nice job on the seat Tulkas! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 08, 2010, 03:07:27 AM
Thanks guys!

More progress. Not the glamorous kind of progress but very important and a huge step forward for me.

This thing is maybe the most important part of my pit structure. It is the base for the seat and the link between the foward and the back sections. The position, leaning and height of the seat depends of it, and so does the steadiness and solidity. I needed many adjustments and trials to finally get the final shape:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA290180.jpg)

The seat in position:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA300196.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA300191.jpg)

An very important test. While weight and portability are not important to me, steadiness is a number 1 priority. I don't want any shaking, trembling, noises... when climbing or moving in the cockpit. So I put my 85kg for first time on it...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA290186.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PA290184.jpg)

...and it was great. Steady and firm as a rock. I have tried a couple of real military sims and it felt just like sitting on them.

Sitting for first time in your cockpit is also a moral boost, it felt special and I thought "hey! maybe I will actually have a cockpit after all!". I can confess I have sit a few times on it this weekend just for the sake of it and my wife has found me sitting there smiling and happy as kid :D

I am working now on the fake rails, the data recorder, eject mechanism and as soon as I get the arm lever from Mike I will start with the arming mechanism.

I will take the seat away today (  :( ooooh, no more fun) to keep on sanding, filling and hope to be ready to start painting in two weeks.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Catcher on March 08, 2010, 03:46:26 AM
Awesome dude :thumbsup:, good job on the reel roller area :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: mihi4 on March 08, 2010, 10:26:49 AM
Hey, Tulkas!
Sitting for first time in your cockpit is also a moral boost, it felt special and I thought "hey! maybe I will actually have a cockpit after all!". I can confess I have sit a few times on it this weekend just for the sake of it and my wife has found me sitting there smiling and happy as kid :D

Been there, done that :)
Feeling great, isn't it?

Congrats on your seat, that's great work!

Quote
I am working now on the fake rails, the data recorder, eject mechanism and as soon as I get the arm lever from Mike I will start with the arming mechanism.
I will take the seat away today (  :( ooooh, no more fun) to keep on sanding, filling and hope to be ready to start painting in two weeks.

Good luck, and bring new pics! ;)

greetings
michi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 15, 2010, 04:04:07 AM
Thanks guys for the feedback.

For a change is a relieve to work on something that does not implies wood cutting and sandpaper.

I have been some months thinking about the arming lever mechanism. Sure it was easy just a hinge and a push button but I wanted something to snap and lock into both positions and I wanted it to feel solid. The solution I liked the most was Ray's: http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=1062.150

So I went in search of RC parts but I did not find much where I live. I search on the net, I contacted Ray who kindly helped but in the end I got tired of going through pages and pages of RC material and decided to give a shot to the local general hardware store. Some half an hour walking among the shelves and came back home with this:

 (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB050198.jpg)

A threaded rod, nuts, washers, a ball joint, a switch and a tile cutter. A tile cutter?? Yep, check out the spring that comes with it :D McGyver rules in pitbuilders' world! This the resulting test assembly:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB050200.jpg)

This is it in movement, it snaps firmly into the safe/armed position, just as I wanted.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_PB050201.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/?action=view&current=PB050201.flv)

Now to prepare the definitive mechanism I need the drawings and dimensions of the arm lever to make a placeholder. I am purchasing the one from Mike but he appears not to be available at the moment so if someone else cand provide me with those dims I could keep on working on this until Mike is back and then install his lever.    
Thanks

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 22, 2010, 06:18:51 AM
Starting the painting works on my ACESII. I use Montanagold Dust Grey 7030 and as Aeyes said, is a perfect match with the real thing, you can see in comparation with the parachute container

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0461.jpg)

It is just the first coat and there is still a long way of sandpaper and repaint but I cannot resist to dress it for somo pictures

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0458.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0459.jpg)

I wont spend too much time detailing the backside since it won?t be seen with the ejection rails structure.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0460.jpg)

And now starts a long and boring work to turn the wood rough surface into slick metal and plastic looking surface. A lot of mastic, a lot of sandpapering and a lot of patient but it is possible. I have the experience from the ICP case and I know what to do.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0462.jpg)

I have decided to leave aside the wood mastic I have been using and change to the one used to fix bumps and damage on metal. I think I read it being call bundo or something around here. It is more expensive, it?s more difficult to use because dries very fast, it is a lot harder to sandpaper and you have to mix two components, in the other side its hardness gives a lot better finish. I started using it to fix some bumps in my metallic seat pan and ended using it all over.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0463.jpg)

Opposite to the ICP case this thing is quite big so I mentally have part it in small areas to get them perfect one by one. I started with the front of the seat pan

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0464.jpg)

And the result

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0465.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: magoo on March 22, 2010, 09:10:53 AM
Well done tulkas ! outstanding work there!  :thumbsup:

A little tip, if I can, put some thin metal plate around  the knee rest edge to avoid wood damage when you will quickly jump into the pit  for a scramble!! :vp:

Cheers
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on March 23, 2010, 03:19:48 AM
Great job Tulkas. Very nice.
Giorgio
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 30, 2010, 04:34:55 AM
Thanks guys!

Well done tulkas ! outstanding work there!  :thumbsup:

A little tip, if I can, put some thin metal plate around  the knee rest edge to avoid wood damage when you will quickly jump into the pit  for a scramble!! :vp:

Cheers

Magoo the complete top of the seat pan up to the edge is metal. so it should be ok.


Painting and sanding the seat is going forward at a good pace. Parallel to this a I have been working on other details.

First the mechanismo for the ejection handle. Very simple. One spring was ok but I wanted to feel a good resistence.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB210203.jpg)

eject! eject! eject!:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB210204.jpg)

I have made some paper stencils for the metal supports that hung on the seat. Also you can see the still raw date recorder, fake rails and wheels. Still a lot of work but I have startet to see the end of the process.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB210206.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 31, 2010, 04:11:23 PM
Hi guys!

Anyone so kind to give me the dimension in the picture?

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/ACESII_oxybrackets_dim.jpg)

Thanks!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 01, 2010, 09:04:06 AM
Came on guys! Don?t be shy! I know a good bunch of you have this thing, it will take you about 30s to messure and write it here

Lazy basterds!  :lol:  :lol:

Cheers

Tulkas

Hi guys!

Anyone so kind to give me the dimension in the picture?

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/ACESII_oxybrackets_dim.jpg)

Thanks!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: TOR on April 01, 2010, 10:35:41 AM
.... only 3 seconds to measure - but 327 seconds to find the bloody thing  ;)

.... 37 mm?s!!!

TOR
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Red Dog on April 01, 2010, 01:08:38 PM
Mine's not real but it's 42mm - on the other hand I know where to find it  8) :-P
Don't be so picky about real dims gents. There are many differences amongst real parts too :)
Especially for such a small tiny detail
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: TOR on April 02, 2010, 11:02:31 AM
.... only 3 seconds to measure - but 327 seconds to find the bloody thing  ;)

.... 37 mm?s!!!

TOR

..... also, not the real thing - sorry! Might even be the one pictured there....

I agree with RD on the dimensions, especially on a part like this - which is really not adjacent to other parts.

TOR
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 02, 2010, 11:25:30 AM
many thanks Tor and RD!

I also agree with you, in a part like this it is not really needed to be accurate to the milimeter, but I needed at least some reference to start making it. If later it is 3 or 4 cm it is not so important, actually the hinge that I get in the shop will decide the size but I wanted to get close.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 11, 2010, 06:40:31 AM
I know many of you guys know IT...

...

This creature has eaten many pit projects...

...

This greedy creature sees every pit room as its lebensraum...

...

It is the black beast of the pit builders...

...

And now it is IN my house...

...

I hear it in the night...

...

Sometimes I wake up and I can see my wife walking around in the darkness half slept...

...

With some very high tech equipment I got a picture of this daemon while it was getting all over my pit...

...

Prepare yourself to feel FEAR!

....

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG_0605.jpg)

It arrived the last 3rd of April, but I think we are getting along pretty well after all :D

He even allowed me to work a lot in my pit the last week (thanks to him I did not have to go to work :) )

I have painted the pads on the headrest dark grey. The last coat placing the spray can far away from the surface to get a rough texture which I liked a lot. I am VERY pleased with the result

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG_0569.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG_0596.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG_0597.jpg)

I have started to paint the sides of the seat. I will do it in three coats to try to simulated a real weathering.

First coat aluminum

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG_0565.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG_0568.jpg)

Second yellow priming colour

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG_0595.jpg)

And third coat gray. I don?t have a picture yet but it looks great!

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Reboot on April 11, 2010, 08:34:58 AM
Tulkas,
                     That?s the best so far, The tears was running down my face,
Congratulations, it is a beast but it is definitely not black,

  Beautiful  baby and a beautiful post.     :beer:


       Reboot   :thumbsup:
 
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: 101-Douxx on April 11, 2010, 09:22:36 AM
Congratulations!!!
 :yihaw:

And happy fatherhood.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on April 11, 2010, 10:49:01 AM
ACESII looks GREAT.........but the little kid looks Gouges  :thumbsup: Congrats mate, well done work  :whistle:

Kukki
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Calvorota on April 12, 2010, 04:24:31 AM
Congratulations Tulkas... welcome to the club.



P.S (Spanish only, sorry): Es un cr?o estupendo... abr?galo que por ah? arriba hace mucha rasca. Desde el conocimiento que da el hecho de haber sido padre un par de meses antes que tu te dir? que ya te puedes ir preparando para dejar ligeramente aparcada la simulaci?n por un tiempo.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: magoo on April 12, 2010, 04:47:27 AM
Congratulation my friend,....... specially to your MUJER  ;)

 :beer2:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: heines on April 12, 2010, 11:22:10 AM
congrats mate  :thumbsup:

enjoy it! and also the aces

 :vprules:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 13, 2010, 03:15:17 AM
Thanks guys!

Calvo-> No te preocupes que ya estamos (por fin) en primavera y a menudo pasamos de los 10 grados, se ha derretido casi toda la nieve en mi urbanizaci?n :D Por otro lado a?n tengo esperanzas de compaginar crio y aficiones, para eso creo que los horarios laborales noruegos son mucho m?s benignos para la familia y los hobbies quelos espanoles.

And now some building, I am very happy with this one:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0609.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 25, 2010, 04:32:38 PM
Now working on the left side. The arm lever mechanidm it is almost solved. I had to modify a little Mike?s lever to be able to use with the link I found. It?s working very well:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0717-1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0716-1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0712-1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0713-1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0714-1.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 30, 2010, 05:40:28 PM
I am starting to see the end of the journey (ACES only :) )

Today I worked on the front part, the one housing the ejection handle:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0961.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0964.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0965.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0969.jpg)

Left side is almost ready:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_0970.jpg)

Once these two parts are finish I think major operations on the ACESII two are done and it will be only left the most pleasant part of the building: add details with wires, pipes, etc... and finally the stickers! looking forward!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on May 01, 2010, 04:40:03 AM
Hey Tulcas!
Looking really treat, but take in mind not to build that eject handle system to fragile, cause you will in a fight suddenly get a missile up your ass and then pure reflection pull the eject handle very hard. You might not, but when you have a stranger in the pit and you dont remember to tell him to eject gentle, then you are back to repair.

Just a heads up.

Kukki
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on May 01, 2010, 06:56:26 AM
Hey Tulkas!
That looks awesome, dude. Like Kukki says, build it tough. The real eject handle take 50 lbs. to pull it!!!!! You cant make a mistake. I have to use two hands to eject with the real mechanism.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 31, 2010, 07:37:08 AM
Hey Tulcas!
Looking really treat, but take in mind not to build that eject handle system to fragile, cause you will in a fight suddenly get a missile up your ass and then pure reflection pull the eject handle very hard. You might not, but when you have a stranger in the pit and you dont remember to tell him to eject gentle, then you are back to repair.

Just a heads up.

Thanks Kukki. Believe me, the idea of strangers on my cockpit obsess me from day one. I am building a plane in my house so I am a freaky and nothing can help with that anymore, but I don?t want to be an eccentric antisocial freaky the kind which when have visitors and they said "wow! so cool cockpit! can I sit on it??" "NOP! you will break something!!"  :wacko:  :-P

So to avoid that situation I am building my cockpit as solid as possible without regard for weight or transport ease other than make it modular. So the the springs for the ejection handle are screwed to a solid 5cm thick piece of wood glued to the back of the MDF.   

Hey Tulkas!
That looks awesome, dude. Like Kukki says, build it tough. The real eject handle take 50 lbs. to pull it!!!!! You cant make a mistake. I have to use two hands to eject with the real mechanism.
Nigel

First I wanted to get the real feeling, then I learned that it was 50lbs so the only way to get it was to make a hole on the floor and hung son training free weights from the handle :) So I gave up and used 4 springs (yes i had added one more after the pictures) and I would think the feeling is around 15kg, good enough to have a solid feeling for me.

---------------------------------------------

My wife must be an unique case of wife support but she got to CONVINCE ME to buy a new screen because my old 19" CRT looked so ugly together with the new seat I am building. The thing I was THE ONE resisting to such an expenditure. But once in the shop I could resist no more, especially because they have a 30 days trial period so you can regret:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1237.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1244.jpg)

Oh boy! With that size and that close I see 3D cockpits on natural size now!:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1246.jpg)

47 inches, Full HD, 1920x1080, 1080p, 60Hz, 5995 NOK.-... I was worried about having the screen so close but having 30 days testing it was worth to try. If I get sick and throw up after every flight I can always can get my money back or go smaller.

Yesterday I test it, adjusted backlight and flew 4 hours non stop. Now you will have to come and take it away from my cold dead hand :)!

I have not forgotten my ACESII. Working on paper stencils to make metal plates for the top of the sides. Many cut-outs for the stuff there:

CAN SOME ONE TELL ME THE DIAMETER OF THE OXY RING??? Thaks!!!
 
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1242.jpg)

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on May 31, 2010, 09:12:31 AM
Very nice seat Tulkas.
G
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on May 31, 2010, 10:03:51 AM
Tulkas,
2.25" diameter. If you ask Dunk, he will send you one. Your seat is way cool, mate!! Slide it in.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Bazooka on May 31, 2010, 08:59:07 PM
Gotta watch them generous wive's......she could be setting you up for a big expensive toy for her.  :lolsign:


Bazooka
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 01, 2010, 08:17:12 AM
Tulkas,
2.25" diameter. If you ask Dunk, he will send you one. Your seat is way cool, mate!! Slide it in.
Nigel

Thanks Nigel! The day is close to put it in place, bu still some more work to do.

Nigel, did you get my las email?

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Milos on June 10, 2010, 04:10:24 AM
Hey Tulkas

I know, I'm late   :-[

I have that for you


(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4983/oxygne.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/oxygne.jpg/)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 17, 2010, 03:03:30 AM
Thanks Milos, actually that picture is gonna be help since I am planning to restore my oxy bottle repainting it.

-------------------------

Well, well, we keep on. Now I have started making all the details which hang all over the seat.

First the rails. Quite annoying to make with wood because been so straight there is no place where to hide imperfections. That demands and extra effort with mastic and sandpaper to get a smooth surface.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB210206.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1248.jpg)

They are fake rails in the sense that most of them are just solid wood and only the top actually looks like a rail.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1249.jpg)

But I think they got nice looking in the end:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1272.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1271.jpg)

Working on the top sills of the sides. Especially the left side requires carefull work to install the arm lever. Everything appears to go ok here. The plata is made in 3mm alu

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1274.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1273.jpg)

Some other details as data recorder support, oxy bottle bracket, etc.. are made with .5mm alu

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1275.jpg)

Fitting the future data recorder with its support

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1333.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: heines on June 17, 2010, 04:11:24 AM
nice progress :thumbsup:
love the rails
keep up the good work

 :vprules:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Alviom on June 17, 2010, 08:20:16 AM
Hello Tulkas where i can found this Rails for the seat my best regards :beer2:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 17, 2010, 08:45:41 AM
Hello Tulkas where i can found this Rails for the seat my best regards :beer2:

Attached to my seat, I made them :D

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: TOR on June 17, 2010, 12:42:07 PM
Hi Tulkas!

Very nice seat-progress  :thumbsup:

.... but just a little "constructive critisism"....

The seat-harness handle is way to high. PM me your email-account and I will send you photo?s and/or dims for you.

And, with your metal-skills - I do hope to see the data-recorder transformed into aluminum as well  ;) That seat deserves it!

TOR
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Alviom on June 17, 2010, 09:46:42 PM
how much you charge me for one pair? :beer2: ...regards
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: TOR on June 18, 2010, 02:21:46 PM
how much you charge me for one pair? :beer2: ...regards

Let?s not turn this PROGRESS-thread into a sales-thread... use PM?s for that, eh!

But.... Tulkas, you may want to consider sharing your plans/dims/measures/material etc. etc.  in an approriate new thread  :whistle:

Seatrails don?t come on E-Bay you know!

Cheers,

TOR
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 27, 2010, 05:48:19 PM
how much you charge me for one pair? :beer2: ...regards

I am very sorry but my handmade parts take too long to be made and I cannot duplicate. I only have time for one pit at the time :)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 27, 2010, 05:50:48 PM

.... but just a little "constructive critisism"....

The seat-harness handle is way to high. PM me your email-account and I will send you photo?s and/or dims for you.

Hi Tor! That?s because it is not a F16?s handle but once painted will look cool even if it is a bit loger.

But pictures all always welcome so I will give you my email anyway :)

Thanks!

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 27, 2010, 05:56:49 PM
I am already planning the final details so I went to make the plumbering shopping, not cheap if you ask me:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1369.jpg)

I have been working with the metal parts that were prett raw in my last update. I am becoming more comfortable with metal work and I am planning to use more often in the future::

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1363.jpg)

Some fiting test, that side of the seat it is always very spectacular with so much details:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1365.jpg)

Looking foward to push the seat and get it in position!!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1366.jpg)

I have been working aswell to get the pit beast on my side so I made him chief test pilot, testing:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1355.jpg)

Thinking.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1340.jpg)

And approving! Thumb up! We can keep on!!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1346.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Cavalier6X on June 27, 2010, 06:46:07 PM
Tulkas,

Really outstanding work on the ACESII Brackets!  :thumbsup:  And yes; your new Chief Test Pilot seems to approve of your efforts.

Cheers,

Jan :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 06, 2010, 02:29:02 AM
Thanks Jan!

Little but nice addition, gift from a friend:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1372.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1373.jpg)

Some paint work

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1371.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1370.jpg)

And attaching the metal hardware with many simulated rivets:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1375.jpg)

Step by step I am getting there.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on July 06, 2010, 02:52:19 AM
Awesome, Tulkas! Love this seat, mate. The rails are really impressive. Adding the small details like the brackets adds so much to the pit. One thing I would suggest is to study pics and add a lot of pop rivets and screws wherever you see them in pics of the real seat. They are cheap and easy to install. I have asked Dunk to make molds of the quick disconnects for the hoses too. I hope he does, but it looks like you made one already. Can you post a better pic of that? Great job, dude.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on July 06, 2010, 03:06:17 AM
Hey Tulcas!
Great Seat there, great pictures, and a great Testpilot there, and seat seems to be approved.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Kukki
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on July 06, 2010, 06:38:33 AM
...even better!
 :thumbsup:
Giorgio
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Cavalier6X on July 06, 2010, 09:45:01 AM
Tulkas,
Wow!  Just keeps keeping better.  Well done.  :thumbsup:
Jan   :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: heines on July 06, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
very nice work tulkas
your seat looks great  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 21, 2010, 02:49:55 AM
Ok, enough resting and enjoying the Spanish victory in the World Cup :)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1461.jpg)

It is time for some pitbuilding. I want to finish this ACESII before it is one year since I started

One thing I would suggest is to study pics and add a lot of pop rivets and screws wherever you see them in pics of the real seat. (...) I have asked Dunk to make molds of the quick disconnects for the hoses too. I hope he does, but it looks like you made one already. Can you post a better pic of that? Great job, dude.
Nigel

That's the plan regarding the rivets. I use pop up rivets and small nails to simulate rivets. The nails look great. The pop up rivet need the hole to be fill.

My quick diconector is just a plumbering connector, I will take a  pictur later...

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I am working on the plates on the top of the seat sides. This is the left one:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1452.jpg)

The problem is how attach it. MDF is not a very good friend of screws, especially on the edge. It will brake in layers:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1453.jpg)

So I decided to use some small threaded inserts:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1454.jpg)

One of the things I enjoy the most about pitbuilding is to go to a normal hardware shop and just walk around among the shelves with some pit parts in my head until I find some object which could be transformed in the needed part. This time was the oxy ring from a ring to attach boats, it was the perfect size:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1475.jpg)

Some hard work to saw away the screw and some mor work and a couple of drill bites broken to get hole for the cable, was really hard!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1477.jpg)

But I am very happy with my all metal very cheap oxy ring:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1478.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on July 21, 2010, 03:25:59 AM
Dude, youre pit rocks! I LOVE how you are building and fabricating from scratch. It looks amazingly real. Those threaded inserts are invaluable. I use them a lot. I have them all over my pit in acrylic parts. For my HUD box I needed to add a bunch. First pilot drill a hole slightly undersize thenI take a screw with insert just like your picture and heat it up with a cigarette lighter. Then insert it QUICKLY into the hole and eyeball it as straight as possible. after it cools I carefully work the screw loose and it's done. This method might work for knobs using insrts from Mcmaster-Carr.
Keep it up and thanks for the great pics.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on August 03, 2010, 04:04:34 AM
Thak you very much for your words Nigel!

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I spent the weekend finishing a million little things in the seat: install the top plates on the sides, install the parts which goes from the oxy bottle to the ring, finish the ejection mechanism, finishing the arm lever mechanism, paint the locking leverr, etc... and now this baby is really close to be finished.

Top of the right side

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1483.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1480.jpg)

Switch for the arm lever and top of the left side:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1624.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1631.jpg)

Painted arnes lock lever, it was a green one from a plane from the 50-60s I think

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1618.jpg)

Now the seat is ready for the final paint work and the stickers. Only left to be made the release handle and the data recorder. Shoulder arnes system will have to wait for a very good offer.

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The seat cannot be use with the CH Pedals, human anatomy matter. In the long term I will get Simped or other. But my CH are still working great so is a pity ti spend a lot of money in new pedals, money that can be use to move forward other parts of the cockpit. So I am planning to meke a temporary modification of my CH ProPedals to adapt them to the cockpit.

Can someone give me dimensions and pictures for the real pedals please? I only need the part where you place your foot, front and side. Thank you very much.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on August 08, 2010, 05:27:14 PM
Well, finally getting there with the ACESII, I think ten months into the construction process of the seat.

I took it out for one last painting:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/ultpintado.jpg)

Now the moment I thought I would never get at: placing the stickers from Aeyes!! They are so cool that I wished the real ACESS had more stickers. I started to place handles and mechanisms as well

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1700.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1697.jpg)

Oxy bottle in place, I made very cool holders for the hose using rubber from an old bicycle air chamber and normal cable holders.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/oxigeno.jpg)

Hey Nigel, you asked me for my quixk connector, just a bunch of plumbering parts bought at a local store:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1715.jpg)

This thing is getting waaay cool:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/detalle2.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/detalle3.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/detalle4.jpg)

I guess those of you with real (or realsimulator, doesn?t matter) pedals missed my previous post. Please, if you can help me with the dimensions, is gonna be my next step after the seat.

Thanks

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Catcher on August 08, 2010, 05:49:15 PM
Maaaan!!! I love it! I love it! :yihaw:
Great attention to detail, super :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: magoo on August 09, 2010, 02:49:26 AM
Awesome Aces Tulkas, those details are fantastic.  :hail:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rayman on August 09, 2010, 03:20:07 AM
Great work Tulkas, the seat looks awesome! :beer:

Minor detail: the hose from the oxygenbottle goes behind the backseat cushion, to the rightside of the seat, to the CRU. The hose from the quickdisconnector goes into the seat, and then under the seat to the front were it connects to a initiator which is activated by the ejecthandle.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on August 09, 2010, 11:36:05 AM
Veeery nice Tulkas.
 :thumbsup:
Giorgio
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: TOR on August 09, 2010, 12:00:12 PM
Niiice seat progress  :thumbsup:

I will feed you twice a day for ten months if you come by with a toolbox...
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/gunnair/GUN-ACESII-001.jpg)

TOR
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: eagle_wen on August 09, 2010, 01:38:48 PM
It looks amazing Tulkas...been there done that....looking at your pictures and I was taking back some 18 months myself. The time I was stickering my seat... it feels great, isn't it  :yihaw:

Great job  :thumbsup:

Werner
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on August 15, 2010, 04:10:46 PM
Thanks for the comments guys!

Ray, you are of course right but I thought it was a nice looking solution (tricky though  :whistle: ) and maybe in the future I will go for the right set up if I get the parts for it.

Tor, man, you don?t know what you have done offering to feed me, that?s a risky offer on your side without knowing my eating habits. My wife told me to accept, big relief for the family budget :D

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This one was a easy one after all I have passed with the seat:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1639.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1640.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1642.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1645.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1773.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1777.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1779.jpg)

When I showed it to my wife she thought that the Mike?s data tag gave it the realistic touch, I had to agree, it would not have been the same just with a sticker, the volumetric engraving is really cool. So now you know, if you are building the date recorder in your next order to Mike ask for the tag. For no money plus two pop rivets it will look really cool.

In position:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1811.jpg)

Pipe work done on the right side:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1812.jpg)

Working on the manual chute handle and I will proclame the seat as finished for the time being. Low priority to get real parts like harnesses, oxy hoses and connections, etc.. but I will wait for those ones as "cherry on top" of a finished cockpit.

Next step: pedals, dimensions anyone? Thanks!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: magoo on August 16, 2010, 02:39:27 AM
The  skillfulness and the patience you put in each detail are really impressive Tulkas !! :hail:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ripley on August 16, 2010, 08:17:58 AM
Next step: pedals, dimensions anyone? Thanks!

You can get my file. Mostly pictures, and Eagle-wen's drawings (I assume he doesn't mind, they're in his thread). Only condition is you make two  :whistle:

PM me your email address.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: heines on August 16, 2010, 02:21:08 PM
very nice progress

great seat  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: eagle_wen on August 16, 2010, 04:57:07 PM
No problem at all. If you need more info...just ask.

Werner

BTW: nice seat  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on August 17, 2010, 03:24:10 AM
Thank you very much for the feedback guys.

Ripley -> PM inbound, thanks

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 17, 2010, 03:04:42 AM
I am getting there guys! This is almost done!

Manual chute handle. I have been thinking how to do this for a while. While it was easy for me to make in wood I wanted a better real feeling so I decide to place a metal bar inside. The bar comes from a bike "leg" (the one for it to stand) that I have saw.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1771.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1869.jpg)

Then I thought why not to put to good use my recently acquired metal handling superpowers?  :-P I thought it would be nice to have a metal outside layer

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_1870.jpg)

Made the cut outs with the Dremel and fill it with tons of metal mastic

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2208.jpg)

Some patient and tedious sanding and starts to look good:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2209.jpg)

Now a small tutorial about how I make my metal parts with a few very normal tools:

First from paper stencils (no real dimensions here at all guys, made them up from pictures) I cut the metal, some parts with those metal "scissors", some parts with the dremel and some parts with a manual coping saw:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2212.jpg)

With the Dremel I carefully make a groove on the bending lines

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2213.jpg)

Then it is quite easy to make the bendings just by hand:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2215.jpg)

After that is just matter of careful use of metal files to make nice edges and shape them:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2217.jpg)

As you can see the handle is gold painted but it was too pretty for me and I weathered it to show some of the metal and kill a bit the goldish shine. Doesn't show that well on the pictures but I got very happy with the look. The touch feeling is great thanks to the metal, very solid and cold  :wacko: feels like something real. I just think the sticker is too new and bright in comparision with the old used look I gave to the handle. I may do something about that in the future...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2218.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2224.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2220.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2221.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Taipan on September 17, 2010, 03:15:53 AM
Really nice work
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on September 17, 2010, 03:28:36 AM
Very nice job Tulkas, very nice.
Giorgio
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Cavalier6X on September 17, 2010, 04:03:13 AM
Great work . . . bookmarked for future reference.  :thumbsup:

Jan
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Falcao on September 17, 2010, 04:21:04 AM
Tulkas
simply amazing  :thumbsup:

 :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: 101-Douxx on September 17, 2010, 08:23:57 AM
With patience and ingeneousity....
We can achieve the impossible.

Great work Tulkas, it really looks amazing.
 :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: f16simman on September 17, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
Great Job!!  I Also Bookmarked.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 03, 2010, 05:37:11 AM
Thank you very much for the feedback guys!

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Small update,

I got some really nice gifts from a friend: a pilot harness and a set of unused UWARS shoulder straps


(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2231.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2229.jpg)

I preinstalled them on the seat and really boost its look:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/sillacompleta.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/arnes1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/sillafrontal.jpg)

I don't have real inertial reel strips so I temporary use strips to attach stuff to the car, they look ok but they are a bit too wide so they don't run through the small pulleys on the shoulder straps.

So guys, if anyone has an avialable set of inertial reel strips and wants to sell...

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on November 03, 2010, 11:32:41 AM

Then I thought why not to put to good use my recently acquired metal handling superpowers?  :-P I thought it would be nice to have a metal outside layer

Dude, I fell out of my chair laughing at this! BUT your pit and craftsmanship is unbelievable. My hat is off to you, mate! I have a brand new inertia reel from an unknown seat, it is exactly the same as the ACES II but it has a different mounting angle. But with your recently acquired metal handling superpowers, you shall have no problem installing it.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on November 03, 2010, 11:40:55 AM
I will not have your superpower Tulkas,  :taz: even if I wear a costume, mask and mantle! :biggrin:
Great Job mate, great job.
Giorgio
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 10, 2010, 08:05:28 AM
Hi guys.

I am having a hard time trying to find some straps to use under the bottom cushion in the ACESII.

I don?t look for the real ones, I have the real push-dot button to rivet in whatever strap so I just look for nylon straps, 1 3/4" (4-4.5 cm) wide in olive drabb even kakki or gray will be ok. I found a ton i ebay but they are alwas to narrow, most of them 1".

I will be grateful if anyone can give me a hint where to find.

Thank you very much!

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: TOR on November 10, 2010, 11:02:34 AM
Hi guys.

I am having a hard time trying to find some straps to use under the bottom cushion in the ACESII.

I don?t look for the real ones, I have the real push-dot button to rivet in whatever strap so I just look for nylon straps, 1 3/4" (4-4.5 cm) wide in olive drabb even kakki or gray will be ok. I found a ton i ebay but they are alwas to narrow, most of them 1".

I will be grateful if anyone can give me a hint where to find.

Thank you very much!

Tulkas

How about straps used for holding down goods... on trailers etc.!!?

TOR
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on November 10, 2010, 04:37:42 PM
Tulkas,
Junkyard. Old seat and shoulder belts from cars. They are just right.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 10, 2010, 05:22:22 PM


How about straps used for holding down goods... on trailers etc.!!?

TOR
[/quote]

That was my first try, wrong size and color so far

Tulkas,
Junkyard. Old seat and shoulder belts from cars. They are just right.
Nigel

That?s what I have in mind now, but they are not normally in olive drab...

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Dunk on November 10, 2010, 07:37:35 PM
Tulkas,
I have a set of straps that I would have put with your Throttle Guide that shipped Yesterday, but had not seen this.
I will put them in a box for you and ship them if you pay the shipping.
The real deal are not olive drab but blue grey as I do have the real seat pan.
These are a perfect match.
Shipping should be about the same as the throtle guide.
PM me if you want them.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on November 11, 2010, 06:46:04 AM
Tulkas,
As Dunk says the real ones are a blue grey but black would be fine since all the new cushions, straps, belts, headrests and chute boxes are now black only. You cant see them anyway once the seat is installed.
Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 11, 2010, 09:17:17 AM
Thank you very much for your explanations guys!

Dunk, I?ve sent you a PM

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 16, 2010, 04:38:06 AM
I received in the mail a little gift from a friend. Now I wonder how far am I taking the detailing of the seat, never dreamed of reaching this extreme:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2445.jpg)

So we got 5 push-the-dot buttons on the back rest. Since my backrest is thin metal I have no problem using the screw and nut that comes with the buttons. I have to be extremly accurate to place them if I want them to fit with those ones on the back cushion:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2452.jpg)

Details:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2459.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2456.jpg)

The two on top have a double function as I learned from Ray. They of course hold the cushion but also are the attaching point for the bungee cords that hold the fold on the chute belts.:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2462.jpg)

They are pretty tricky to snap in and out, you have to push/pull the exact spot to get it...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2461.jpg)

But it is time to start building a cockpit and no only a chair:

Humm... I noticed some problem to fit my Jay-El in that TWP panel...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2413.jpg)

Some testing with MFD exporter, it works great!!!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2394.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2464.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2466.jpg)

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: raus on November 16, 2010, 04:48:31 AM
Can one get used to being astonished? Great build, man. You encourage me to keep working on the pit, and going for that extra notch of realism :)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: netmav on November 16, 2010, 05:43:34 AM
WOW!  :thumbsup:

Your ACESII looks great, Tulkas!
And you're off to a good start with the rest of the pit as well!

NICE WORK, MAN!  :yihaw:


\Martin
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on November 16, 2010, 07:38:23 AM
Very nice Tulkas, very nice.
Giorgio
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on November 16, 2010, 07:56:49 AM
Great job mate, and that seat really looks nice  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Kukki
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rayman on November 16, 2010, 09:38:26 AM
The two on top have a double function as I learned from Ray. They of course hold the cushion but also are the attaching point for the bungee cords that hold the fold on the chute belts.:
Tulkas

Hey Tulkas,
Look again at the pictures i posted, it are not the two on top, but the lower ones, otherwise the bungeecords would really hurt in your back, and are too long...
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 16, 2010, 01:42:14 PM
Hey Tulkas,
Look again at the pictures i posted, it are not the two on top, but the lower ones, otherwise the bungeecords would really hurt in your back, and are too long...

Thanks Ray! Good catch.

I get to excited when finally arrives the moment to hung stuff on the seat and I misplace them often :)


Can one get used to being astonished? Great build, man. You encourage me to keep working on the pit, and going for that extra notch of realism :)

Thanks Raus. I have not forgotten those dimensions from the ICP, but I have to unpack the ICP which I have not use since we moved to the new house. A bit more of patien please! ;)

Thanks evrybody for the nice comments.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 25, 2010, 04:26:10 AM
Something that was bothering me since I started to think about building a pit was how I was hoing to attach the MFD screens and the MFD bezels. Of course then I was not thinking to work with metal at all so now I had access to a good solution through metal parts. I based my work on Rayman's solution but adapted to my building and materials. The 8" screens gave a little of a headache, they are too large to use when you have a 10.4" in the CP. In the end I had to enlarge a bit the front panel but it looks ok:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2468.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2469.jpg)

I made a test assembly to check that everything fits. It did and feels very solid and firm. You know, I don't want any shake and cracking when I push buttons or flip switches, that's one of the priorities in my pit. You can see here how the panel is attached.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2476.jpg)

I also check that the screens still work after the traumatic removing from their cases. They do but the left one goes off somtimes when you touch the wires so I have to find what power wire is a bit loose.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2473.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2474.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2475.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2471.jpg)

Is amazing to have the MFDs working. It absolutly changes everything and brings your pit to another lever. The MFDE works like a charm, no lag, fluid, crisp picture, really amazing: Thanks Lightning!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on November 25, 2010, 06:30:24 AM
Those MFD's looks really good :thumbsup:

I am about to buy LCD for my MFD's  . Most of you guys use 6.4"  ( expensive 150$ per LCD  :wacko:)
Tulkas , is it possible to use 8" with 10.4" lcd using the original consoles ?

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 25, 2010, 06:44:40 AM

Tulkas , is it possible to use 8" with 10.4" lcd using the original consoles ?

Asi

I understand you mean the 10.4" in the CP?

In my opinion and experience, no. You have to hide part of the 8" LCD inside the CP an there you have the 10.4" so they will crash and part of the 8" will fall outside of the console.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on November 25, 2010, 09:18:04 AM
Yeap the 10.4" in the CP

6.4" then . I hope I can find a good deal

Thanks
Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 01, 2010, 07:10:35 AM
OK, I have scrwed up big time. I got two gorgeous screens from vitrolight, a 4.8" and a 3.5" together with power supplies. I thought both power supplies were the same, 12V as all my other screens. So plugged the 3.5" to the 12V power supply only to notice that the other power supply was 5V.  :stupid:  :stupid:  :stupid:

So I fried it, my question is, have I fried the whole thing or just the board? I mean, the LCD is destroyed as well or can i order another board and it will be ok?

Thanks for your answers

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Falcao on December 01, 2010, 07:19:21 AM
i had similar thing with my screen once...but it was on the inverter in the back of the screen, luckly it had a build in SMD fuse and i changed the fuse and it went just fine.
try to troubleshoot the board, find the product sheet for starters....
post it here so we can have an idea  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ripley on December 01, 2010, 07:55:46 AM
Yeap the 10.4" in the CP

6.4" then . I hope I can find a good deal

Thanks
Asi

Vitrolight can also supply a 7" panel, 800x600 (not shown in his shop). I'm not sure of the price, but I'm pretty sure they are relatively cheap.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Taipan on December 01, 2010, 03:12:57 PM
Ripley - was that 7" in 4:3 or 16:9 ?
t
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 01, 2010, 03:31:40 PM
Hei guys please.

I am asking help and advice on my building thread, don?t derail it with a different subject so my post falls far behind before people can read it.

-> Falcao Thanks man, I will try to find out if the board had some kind of protection or fuse. If not, is the LCD dead as well?

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Falcao on December 01, 2010, 04:03:22 PM
no tulkas i don?t think the lcd is screwed, use the data sheet schematics for the board and try to figure out were it burned out.
like i told you in the previous post, my lcd inverter also burned out and i panic at the begining then i used the datasheet to troubleshoot.
at least try, in any case you have only a burned board, not the LCD  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on December 01, 2010, 04:07:19 PM
 I also ordred 3.5" and 4.8" from vitrolight . haven't recevied them yet
I'm no expert but from what I read you probably damaged your board not the LCD

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 10, 2011, 03:20:40 AM
Getting close to finish the seat. I have to thank Dunk for his help in this progress:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2571.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2569.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2568.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2572.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2573.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2576.jpg)

There is only one thing left: Inertial reel stripes which I plan to attach to a car seat belt retractor.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2577.jpg)

So guys, if anybody has available a set of  Inertial reel stripes (not need the reel, just the stripes) I am open for business :thumbsup:

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Dunk on January 10, 2011, 03:35:43 AM
You are welcome there Tulkas, I see that you found the real snaps.
That is a great thing, I need to find the male side of that snap for my seat back.
The snaps on the seat pads are very tight fitting for the silver ones that I sent to you.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 31, 2011, 03:29:47 AM
Finally some time to work on my pit. I got to give a big push to the front panel:

Not pretty yet, I know, wait some pictures:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2748.jpg)

I have painted the alu supports for the MFD and screw the Cougar MFDs directly to them (the alu is 2mm thick) the I have cut the sticking out screw on the back so I get a flat surface for the screen:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2747.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2746.jpg)

Test assembly to check everything fits:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2744.jpg)

I am not going for black MLU, it's just the metal sheet I use to cover the panel comes in black, I will paint it gray. Actually for very long I was decided to go black since I liked very much RD, Rayman and other's cockpits. Also I saw many cockpits painted gray which did not look "real", thought black was better to camoflage "homemadish", but I liked so much the Montana Gold used in my ACES that I decided to use all over the cockpit. The bezels and instruments stick out a lot more than with a black background.

This is my engine instrument block. Looks very raw I know, but I got a very nice tight fit with White-Eagle AIC, it was not easy to make it in wood:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2756.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2749.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2750.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2751.jpg)

An that's my misc support, a 2mm alu plate on top of a thick wood base with cut outs for the switches.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2752.jpg)

All in all the front panel came out very solid thanks mainly to all the metal which work not only as support for MFDs but also as reinforcement for the structure. That's very nice because one of my concern was the wooden front panel being too fragile due to all the cuts and drill.

More soon...

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on March 31, 2011, 03:52:14 AM
Awesome Tulkas. Great work.

Nigel
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: MrBones on March 31, 2011, 08:37:55 AM
Tulkas, your woodworking skills are superb.  Your pit looks great! :thumbsup:

Mike
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: heines on March 31, 2011, 10:58:56 AM
 very nice  :thumbsup:

keep it up
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on March 31, 2011, 12:50:48 PM
Great skill and nice update.
G
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 01, 2011, 04:26:51 AM
Thanks guys!

I received some much wanted parts from Mike so I worked a bit on them.

First making the RWR ready for install. I put a piece of green transparent paper and it gives a quite nice touch. I also painted black the edges of the lense

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2760.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2761.jpg)

Mike's parts never stop amazing me, the TWP dimensions are so accurate that once the Jay-El are in position the whole thing is a compact tight whole and I don't think I will have to use any extra clamping. While I was doing this I remembered that guy who made a youtube video complaining about viperpits, the one trying to place the Jay-El through the TWP with a pliers and just said all the time "impossible, it's stuck", I started to laugh and looked for his video just for fun, did not find it though  ;D

I am having here a doubt between dead accuracy and looks. Maybe you guys can give your opinion.

Here, if I am not mistaken are the "correct" Jay-El, not-latching buttons and one light for the missile launch, am I right?:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2759.jpg)

Here is the TWP with all latching buttons, not accurate but much more nice looking and that small frame around the push botton doesn't allow the thing go trough the panel so all of them are perfectly placed on the panel.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2755.jpg)

I have not decided myself, I know is a minor detail but I would like to know your opinion.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: spooky on April 01, 2011, 11:08:35 AM
That looks really nice! Good Work!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on April 01, 2011, 09:28:53 PM
I like the look of the latching ones better, can you make them un-latching? ..

and yes that guy's video is still on youtube. He used the wrong indicators in the bezel..and I sent him an aluminum cnc-ed TWP and that was the thanks he gave me,, ulterior motive with "you know who" I found.  anyways,,, i digress

your doing some nice work, the seat looks amazing! will look forward to the seatbelt retractor as I have one in waiting for this also
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 04, 2011, 03:22:29 AM
Thanks Mike. I didn't think about that but since I have to open them anyway to change the front lense maybe I find out how to make them un-latching.

Some more progress, actually -for me at least- one of those milestones building a pit: getting functional MFDs.

This is how the installation finally looks:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2779.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2781.jpg)

Now dropping a LGB in Falcon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts3fnNwNMic

And just for the rush of it, check out the high definition MFDs from DCS:A10C. Wish we had that resolution in Falcon. What a beauty that map page is!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoAuZzhHoQ

As you already know, camara does not make justice to how the display really look, they are incredibly crisp. I used these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-8-VGA-AV-TFT-LCD-RCA-XGA-Display-Monitor-UA-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1e6207b33cQQitemZ130493690684QQptZCarQ5fAudioQ5fVideo

But to be honest, if I had to make it again I'd choose smaller ones even if they don't fill the complete bezel. 8" has been a real pain in the ass to place behind the panel.

I have been buying switches for almost 4 years and lately I had lost some track of what I have and what I have left. So I open a million boxes, put them together, organize and put some marks on Lightnig's switch list:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2783.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas



Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 13, 2011, 05:09:45 AM
Work on the engine instruments. The hearth of the eng. block is of course the AIC by White-Eagle (Arend). I am just in charge of the cosmetics.

To keep cost on the eng box low I decided to build my self. Mike was so kind to make for me a raw face plate and the lenses. Now I have to build up the circular cut outs on the face plate to support the lenses. I used modelist plastic sheets 2mm (1mm for the oil gauge). I cut stripes to the correct wide to separate the lenses from the top of the needles and glued them inside the circular openings.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2897.jpg)
When finish, the lenses will be glue on top:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2898.jpg)

Priming:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2899.jpg)

Three coats of flat black spray paint and two coats of flat transparent spray varnish

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2900.jpg)

Glued lenses:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2901.jpg)

The support is built in the frontal panel:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2756.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2750.jpg)

Ready. I totally love it, my favorite part on the front panel right now:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2915.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_2914.jpg)

And seeing it actually working is totally sick! The AIC is amazing, working right away, 0 problems! I never dreamed I was going to see working gauges in my cockpit when I started with this crazy hobby!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwrI-eeSK38

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: GunMan on April 13, 2011, 05:38:31 AM
That looks way cool mate ! Awesome craftmanship. But IMO the faceplate is supposed to be grey !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: KK on April 13, 2011, 05:48:31 AM
Quote
But IMO the faceplate is supposed to be grey !
Full ack on that. It makes the instruments to really show up and
enhances the appearance.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: GunMan on April 13, 2011, 06:12:11 AM
Well sure, that's a matter of taste ;-)

I haven't seen the first part of the topic (was on my Iphone). That looks really cool :) ! So amazing you could collect so many switches. I don't know how you guys can have them all, I've been looking for some time and never seen lots of them on ebay.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 13, 2011, 06:53:54 AM
Quote
But IMO the faceplate is supposed to be grey !
Full ack on that. It makes the instruments to really show up and
enhances the appearance.  :whistle:

Actually I see lately that most of the planes have a black face plate on the eng. instruments.

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=5928.0
http://www.stclairphoto-imaging.com/360/F16-Cockpit/F16_swf.html

That's why I did it, besides makes the gray not so dominant and kind of a symetrical with the misc.panel  :wacko: so a matter of taste at the end  ;D

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on April 13, 2011, 06:56:03 AM
Very good indeed.
I've also same problem with AIC and this can be the solution.
Thanks mate for great suggestion
Giorgio
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 13, 2011, 07:01:25 AM
! So amazing you could collect so many switches. I don't know how you guys can have them all, I've been looking for some time and never seen lots of them on ebay.

Got my first switches in 2006 and still don't have them all! Patient and constant search!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 13, 2011, 07:04:24 AM
Very good indeed.
I've also same problem with AIC and this can be the solution.
Thanks mate for great suggestion
Giorgio

Thanks Gancio. I get really glad when my progress report gets useful for someone!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: MrBones on April 13, 2011, 11:03:29 AM
Looking Good Tulkas. :thumbsup:  I like the combination of Black and Grey.

Mike
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on April 14, 2011, 08:40:36 AM
Looks very nice,
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: PopTops on April 15, 2011, 05:20:10 AM
I wished I had the craftmanship you have!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 30, 2011, 08:38:36 AM
Little progress here. More thinking than working lately.

I am in the process of making the side consoles/walls. I don't have all the dims yet but I have started to make some design. To do that I had to place the seat in position and I could not resist to take some pictures.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/sillaenposicion-1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/sillaenposicion.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/sillaenposicion3.jpg)

I have to remove the seat afterwards to be able to fly. The CH Pedals are going to be change very soon for Saitek Pro Combat then I will be able to place the CP.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: MrBones on May 30, 2011, 09:24:03 AM
Looking real good Tulkas!   :thumbsup:

Mike
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 06, 2011, 02:59:20 AM
Thanks Mikem!

Some hard work made during the las long (4 days) weekend. A lot of MDF sawing but I have cut all the parts for one side of the cockpit. Now I have to replicate it for the other side  :-\ but I am determined to finish the complete cockpit shell this summer so I can focus on electronics and detailing without having more wood work hunging on my head.

The data to build the sides comes from an eclectic mixture of Magoo's wombapit, Pegasus' invaluable website, Dunk's inner walls and accurate dimensions for the consoles provided by ray. Thank you guys all together.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3003.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3002.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3004.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3005.jpg)

The inner walls are a good guide to place the ribs

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3006.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3007.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/anguloconsolalateral11.jpg)

Can someone provide me with the dimensions of the map box? I am also interested to buy a real one if there is any for sell.

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on August 15, 2011, 03:22:26 AM
I made some progress during the summer. Now I have two sides for my cockpit. One nice summer day I was working on the pit in my house frontyard when I heard this very well known sound, "That's not a passenger plane", I look up and I saw this two F16s flying low and slow over the fiord. I would think they were making 1000ft and no more than 300kts so I have plenty of time to admire them while they crossed from right to left. Inspiring! I see them very seldom here, when I was living in Trondheim I saw them quite often.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3011.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3012.jpg)

I must have been really good because my wife moved me to a larger room. Now I have plenty of space to have a temporary pit by the side of the viperpit which should speed up the process. I had put now the four parts of the pit together, front, center and both sides. The center and sides are hold together by a large continuous MDF plank (not in the picture) at the back. The whole thing feels quite solid:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3013.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3014.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3015.jpg)

I was missing the link between the seat rails and the back os the cokpit. I used some plasteline to find the shape:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3017.jpg)

And used wood and metal for the final part:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3026.jpg)

I got quite some mail during the summer:

Another G15 for the PFL and a broken Cougar throttle:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3031.jpg)

Thanks to Ricardo, a beautiful map box:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3029.jpg)

And the pedals ProCombat de Saitek, I think they are the only commercial brand which can be used in the cockpit :

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3022.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3020.jpg)

I had to check that the pedals were usable when in the cockpit so I could not resist to record my first try climbing to the cockpit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaAaUHvz_mQ

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rabbit on August 15, 2011, 03:41:58 AM
He Tulkas,

thats some cool looking pit bro.:thumbsup:

you'r doing some good work there, realy awsome. :hail:

Cheers Rabs :beer:

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on August 15, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
Good progress m8, keep it going.  :thumbsup:
and very nice movie!
G
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Sherlock on August 15, 2011, 09:27:50 PM
Super nice! Keep up the great work!  :thumbsup:   :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rayman on August 16, 2011, 07:00:47 AM
Great progress Marcel! (and what a great Mapbox! Still an item i need...)

What do you think of the Saitek pedals??? I'm still looking for an affordable solution.....
They look a bit to narrow? or is it just the picture?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on August 16, 2011, 09:03:59 AM
What do you think of the Saitek pedals??? I'm still looking for an affordable solution.....
They look a bit to narrow? or is it just the picture?

Hi Ray, I was like you for a long time, it was Tango44 experience with the saitek what made me decide for them.

I think it fits very nicely in the cockpit. The perspective makes the CP looks wider and in top of that my CP is 3cm wider than the real one. Even with that I can actuate the pedals very comfortably. It is definitely a hughe plus the fact that you can regulate the angle of the pedals either if you are going to use a realitic leaning for the seat or not. The only thing I am not sure I like is that it has very little movement in the toe brakes axes and I am afraid it will not be sensible enough, but that?s because I come from CH pedals. I don?t really know how is the real thing. I remember you say they were very hard but you did not mention anything about the range of movement.

 I cannot say anything yet about response, because i have had have not time to test them but just for the pure hardware aspect of it I think is the most economic-wise choice right now. I have been very long checking other options and either they were too expensive or they were not physicly possible to use in a realistic cockpit. This one fits very very well in the pit.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 03, 2012, 04:48:58 AM
About time for an update. I had some days off in Christmas and used some time for pit building making good progress not only on visible stuff but also in planning and decision making. I have made out my mind for the electronics: Xkeys and BU0836X for inputs and AIC for outputs.

Finally I added a car seatbelt tensor to the ACESII, I removed the ball mechanism that blocks the thing if it is not perfectly vertical. It was a pain in the ass. I would say my seat is now finish:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3212.jpg)

I have modified some Aerospace light switches with Mike's lenses. They look great. I have changed them from latching to non-latching by dremeling away the little tip on the mast. I just noticed they have actually no pushing button function so I thought maybe to put a tactile button inside would do the trick:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3232.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3231.jpg)

The main job these days has been finishing the CP which has been waiting half done for almos two years.:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3230.jpg)

The front face is metal with the instruments bezels made in three parts. The first part is glued to the front face and I have insert M3 nuts on the corners. The other two part of the bezel are screwed to the first one so I can remove them if I need to change or fix the encoder.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB300095.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB300096.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3236.jpg)

Masking the instruments lenses to spray paint them:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3238.jpg)

Glueing the bezels:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3239.jpg)

On place:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3338.jpg)

Screens test. Looks grat:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3370.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3374.jpg)

I have peinted the fix parts of th AOA, VVI, HSI and ADI instruments and paste them on top of the screen, this is just a test with normal paper. I think it adds some "physic" appearance. And looks cooler when the screens are off. I liked it so I will print the definitive in photo paper.

I have started to make my glareshields with alu. I use advanced machinery for the bendings:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3339.jpg)

Curve shapes are not a problem for this high tech:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3342.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on January 03, 2012, 08:14:38 AM
only a happy vew can afford those high tech machines.
Great work so far  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 16, 2012, 05:09:08 AM
Busy with real life I had little time for pit building but somethings have been done.

I kept working on the glareshields:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3377.jpg)

I bolded the edges with alu profiles:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3378.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3379.jpg)

And I decided that was worth to make my own flood lights out of a sheet of alu:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3380.jpg)

This view pic was taken by my father with his phone, he liked a lot:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/lafoto.jpg)

And also got a doughter in January  ;D Busy month as I said!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Cupra on February 16, 2012, 01:40:51 PM
Looks great :)

Can you post some more pictures from the center console with the display or whatever you have behind?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: AEF Cobra | 161 SQN on February 16, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
The pit is looking beautiful. Just as I am sure your daughter is. Congratulations on both.

Regards,

Tom
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 17, 2012, 04:53:29 AM
Thanks! Sure she is a beauty!  ;D

Cupra->You can see some pictures of the screebs earlier in the thread.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on February 17, 2012, 05:05:01 AM
Tulkas,
WOW. Yhe more I look at your build thread the more impressed I am. You are the absolute definition of HCB (Home Cockpit Builder). All your hand fabrication is top notch but still simple and within the capabilities of almost everyone. That is invaluable skill. Great work and post lots more pics. I would like to see more pics of the seat rail mounts.
Nigel
P.S. how did getting in the seat for the first time feel? Pretty fargin good, eh?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 18, 2012, 05:16:41 AM
Thanks Nigel! Those compliments means a lot coming from you. I will take more pictures of the seat mounting.

The feeling of climbing for first time in your cockpit is impossible to explain!

P.S: Did you gor my PMs? I?ve been trying to contact you for a few days now.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 24, 2012, 03:54:58 AM
After a few months of hard work in the house I have earned my right for a little push in my cockpit during the summer.

I have started with something I've delaying for long out of fear to the unknown: wiring. But actually, once you start is not that hard:

Eyebrow, I have wired all four buttons because I plan to give them functions as TrackIR stuff, empty 3D cockpit etc...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3675.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3676.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3677.jpg)

Misc. panel, a hard one to wire because of the little space:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3671.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3672.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3673.jpg)

And my new love, the X-keys, they are so easy and work like a Charm. There are hundreds of very useful posts here in VP but if I have to single anyone, for me it would be Falcas' "X-keys easy way" because it really made light for me in a very obscure subject. Thanks man!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3679.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on May 24, 2012, 03:56:23 AM
nice nice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on May 24, 2012, 02:08:31 PM
Wonderful Job on the PCB :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 24, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
Wonderful Job on the PCB :thumbsup:

It actually looks nicer in the other side  :)

That aluminum eyebrow is a very very nice part Mike  :thumbsup:

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 07, 2012, 06:52:24 AM
It is true that kids take away a lot of time for building the pit but they can make you enjoy aviation in a different way. Especially they can take you back to that early days where you first felt the fascination.

The Tiger Meet took place in Norway this year so I took adventage and took my boy to his first air show. He absolutely loved it and now he speaks everyday about the "planes with fire in the tail". Poor guy, what have I done to him?

Some pictures:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3682.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3700.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3698.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3697.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3691.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3716.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3721.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3714.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3711b.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3709.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3730.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3725.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3766.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3764.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3762.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3759.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3755.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3760.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3749.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3752.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/TIGER%20MEET%20020612/IMG_3768.jpg)

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: badboy31 on June 07, 2012, 07:33:24 AM
cool pictures Tulkas,i wish i  could go there to but didnt have time for it :mad: great to see the belgium tiger there to :thumbsup:

grtz,
Tom
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 07, 2012, 07:38:49 AM
great to see the belgium tiger there to :thumbsup:

grtz,
Tom

They put a great show with 4 F16 flying close formation, especially beautiful was a very very low knife pass in diamond formation very close to the crowd. My kid loved it.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on June 07, 2012, 01:00:26 PM
"Planes with fire in their tail" ;) Nice photos! I like the paint jobs and also the claw wheel chock. What time of year was this? It looks cold..
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: RingoFire on June 07, 2012, 04:28:43 PM
The show was last weekend at Ørland (just outside Trondheim). Summer hasn't quite arrived there yet........

Ringo
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 26, 2012, 04:21:04 AM
I kept working in the electronics. Would you believe that I have not use a soldering iron in my whole life before now? And now I make stuff which actually work! This is the part I love the most about pit building (even more than flying I would say) learning new skills.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3681.jpg)

If you have followed my building you have seen I have the 10.4" TFT behind the CP so the rotaries are micro encoders in the instruments bezels and the wires are running "sandwhiched" between the screen and the metal front cover:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3772.jpg)

The electronic is done and now I am going to give the "touch" printing the fixed parts of the instruments to give a more "physic" and "3D" look.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3773.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3776.jpg)

Looking good so far:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3777.jpg)

Now the laborious work of preparing the knobs (Dunk/Runfaster) based in another of those "golden posts" (for me) that we have here in Viperpits: the knob tutorial of Biohazard http://viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=6776.0

First we find the center:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3680.jpg)

Second drill carefully going from 1mm to 6mm step by step. Later the two small holes for the fastening screws:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3786.jpg)

Subtle white coat and I mask a 1mm line:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3790.jpg)

Three coats of mate black and I mask 1mm to each said of the first line:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3808.jpg)

Three coats gray:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3810.jpg)

Removing the mask and three coats of transparent mate varnish, not bad looking:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3811.jpg)

The key is to be patient, respect the drying time and accept the job will take a few days. Here the front cover is install, everything will be functional except ADI adjust and selector PNEUMO/ELECT:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3819.jpg)

The labels for CRS/HDG HSI, SELECT INDEX and ADI arrow are made printing in adhesive paper and after placing the stickers I give a thick coat of transparent mate varnish, it protects the sticker and actually make it look like a part of the knob:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3815.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rayman on June 26, 2012, 05:24:11 AM
Looks great Tulkas, great idea to give the instruments some more "depth"
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on June 26, 2012, 05:51:20 AM
Drilling the knobs is very difficult ! I tried but i gave up  :mad: Compliments you did the drilling perfect  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 26, 2012, 07:21:58 AM
Drilling the knobs is very difficult ! I tried but i gave up  :mad: Compliments you did the drilling perfect  :thumbsup:

Ha,ha. Far from perfect but good enough.

I bought one of these just for the knobs sake  :wacko:

http://www.clasohlson.co.uk/Product/LargeImageViewer.aspx?Path=/Archive/Images/Products/Hi/183054_X_2008-09-25_145406_981.jpg

I don't think there is a chance to get it right with a hand held driller.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Sandman on June 26, 2012, 10:51:26 AM
Tulkas-

Nice posting (with great photos of your work!).  These types of updates always inspire me... guess I need to get busy creating my own build thread soon.  Thanks for sharing your work here.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on June 26, 2012, 02:13:52 PM
Very nice detailed work as always, enjoy the picture walkthrough of the process, these are the "bookmark" type posts
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on June 26, 2012, 02:28:12 PM
Veeeery god job mate.  :thumbsup:
G
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: salaxi54 on June 26, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
Extremely impressive work, i especially enjoyed the wood craftsmanship.
Way to go Tulkas, you're an inspirational person!  :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ski on June 26, 2012, 08:42:01 PM
Awesome, Good pictures.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: chnil71 on June 27, 2012, 06:23:23 PM
Wow. I find your work absolutley amazing. Are you thinking of putting a LCD behind that beautiful CP?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 28, 2012, 02:02:30 AM
Thanks guys for all the kind words  :-[ the feedbacks gives a lot of motivation to keep pushing with the pit.

Wow. I find your work absolutley amazing. Are you thinking of putting a LCD behind that beautiful CP?

Yep, I have a 10.4" and a 4" (not sure right now about this one), you can see them working in page 14 I think.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on October 13, 2012, 02:58:50 PM
I have been following this thread and just scanned through it. Absolutely amazing what can be done. I am going to try to use a lot of your ideas on my ejection seat.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 14, 2012, 02:32:06 PM
I have been following this thread and just scanned through it. Absolutely amazing what can be done. I am going to try to use a lot of your ideas on my ejection seat.

Thanks for that. I get very glad when anything I post is useful for someone. I have gotten so much information and help from the Viperpit´s gang that is great feeling when I get to give a little bit back to the community.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 23, 2013, 03:26:02 AM
Still going, slowly, but going:

I completed my fllood lights gor de glareshields. I thought they were pretty easy to replicate and not worth to use big bucks to get the real thing. You hardly see them anyway. I am pretty happy with the result:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3380.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4374_zpsf37b9989.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4377_zpsb9e0495d.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4386.jpg)

I finally got the time to install Mike's thumbwheels addon in my ICP. It works great! Easy to install, I just had ti shave a little the inside of ny ICP box and make some extra cut outs on the addon plate to fit the wiring and switches which protrudes at the back of my ICP:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4393.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4390.jpg)

A lot of work made on the right side of the cockpit which my next target to complete:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3833.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3853-1.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4123.jpg)

Some preliminary painting:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4231.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4230.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4228.jpg)

And paper stencils for the parts which I am going to make in metal:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4274_zpsa0ca4e97.jpg)

I've been doing quite some shopping to populate the right side:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4233.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4234.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4237.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4239.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on January 23, 2013, 08:12:42 AM
that floodlight looks real !  is there a stencil for the community available ?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 23, 2013, 08:55:25 AM
No stencils. Just found this in some post here at VP. Sorry not to credit the author but was along time ago and I don't remember who did it:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/300_light.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on January 23, 2013, 02:32:31 PM
Nice work!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 28, 2013, 08:42:13 AM
Metal work on the right side moving forward at good pace:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4515.jpg)

Works on the Aux.console:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4546.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4547.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4514.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4545_2.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4549.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4550.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4550-1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4550-1.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4551.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: raus on March 01, 2013, 03:54:24 AM
Great as always, man!!!

Nest time you come to visit your family... pay me a visit, I have some work for you :P
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 01, 2013, 04:32:11 AM
Great as always, man!!!

Nest time you come to visit your family... pay me a visit, I have some work for you :P

I won't visit you 'til you've finished that Hornet and I can fly it  :-P

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 05, 2013, 04:48:53 PM
Wife and kids away for the weekend. A chance to give a good push to my right console:

Right auxiliar screwd in place. Compass box glued:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4708.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4708.jpg.html)

Mastic and sandpaper. Ready to be painted:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4713.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4713.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4714.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4714.jpg.html)

Testing panel fitting (cannot wait to fill it up with panels. Mike!! where are you??  ;D ):

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4716.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4716.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4717.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4717.jpg.html)

Now one of the things I enjoy the most of the building process. get a bunch of normal stuff to try to reproduce cockpit parts. This time the canopy latches. So I found some big hinges for garden gates, steel wire, alu profiles, some boat accessories...:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4719.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4719.jpg.html)

Two daysof alu hard work:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4722.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4722.jpg.html)

And getting there! Not finish yet thought but almost:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4723.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4723.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4724.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4724.jpg.html)

Now as soon as I get more than 15ºC outside I will be able to spray paint and then it will be ready quite fast.

I have started to look for items to populate the side walls so if any of you guys want to do bussines for:

-Compass correction card.
-CRU
-CRU hanger

Contact me. Thanks!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on May 05, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
Great pit  :thumbsup:  I see you go for details !!  I love that !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on May 05, 2013, 05:54:14 PM
Real nice use of "found objects"... :clap: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on May 06, 2013, 01:23:49 AM
Hey Tulkas!
That seems to have been a productive weekend. I love when the house is empty here too and I can puzzel with my pit  :thumbsup:

Your Progress looks really good, way to go mate.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 19, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
May is the month where we have a bunch of vacation days here in Norway with a couple of 4-days weekends included. It was red marked in my pit-builder calendar.

Starting with a couple of ebay adquisitions:

First the survival kit belts from a F4 Phantom. I took my chances because I thouhgt they looked the same than those from the F16. I was right, you can see the right one connected to my torso arnes. With this small detail i consider my seat finish to a 97%:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4732.jpg)

I got also for 25 bucks this funtional utuility light, is the one with green filter:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4731.jpg)

Now lets work, painting, painting, painting. I envy very much String´s painting boot  :lol: :

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4725.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4727.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4733.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4734.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4735.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4736.jpg)

And finally the part that makes all the work worth, when you can just assemble all the different parts and watch what you have done:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4737.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4743.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4746.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4748.jpg)

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on May 19, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Nice stencil work...just plain nice work... :hail: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on May 19, 2013, 06:18:56 PM
What a great pit this will be !!  Enjoyed your progress pictures.. Tulkas :  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Nigel on May 20, 2013, 03:31:04 AM
Awesome!!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rayman on May 20, 2013, 03:54:34 AM
Great progress Marcel, really nice! I love the details that you are putting in.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: John Fredrik on May 20, 2013, 04:00:18 AM
This pit looks great :thumbsup:
Just love all the details..
Keep the pictures coming,..:-)

John Fredrik
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: mihi4 on May 27, 2013, 08:40:15 AM
Great work, Tulkas, TOP!!!
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on May 28, 2013, 07:50:23 AM
Great, great job Tulkas. Become one of top pit.
 :thumbsup:
G.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: bluenipper on May 28, 2013, 08:15:55 AM
it´s looking amazing  :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: bluc69 on June 07, 2013, 10:02:44 AM

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/anguloconsolalateral11.jpg)

Can someone provide me with the dimensions of the map box? I am also interested to buy a real one if there is any for sell.

Cheers

Tulkas
Tulkas, at the end did someone provide you the angle in red?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 07, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
I used 86 degrees but right now I can´t remember if some one gave it to me or I just decided for it.

I completed this graphic for both consoles, I can post it when I come back from hollidays in 4 weeks if you want but I cannot  promise that the dimensions and angles are 100% the real thing.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Willy on June 07, 2013, 04:39:39 PM
Yes, Please post the other console.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 14, 2013, 05:34:42 PM
Yes, Please post the other console.

Thanks.

Here you go.

DISCLAIMER: By no means I claim these to be real dimensions. This is what I used in my pit though:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/Scan0001.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/Scan0001.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Sandman on July 14, 2013, 10:29:04 PM
Quick note to add to the above illustrations...

Although the photo doesn't show it, there actually is a very small triangular gap between the panels on the rear vs forward sections of the left & right console panels, due to the console "planes" being slightly different.  When projected in a photo, it appears the panel edges are exactly parallel, but in fact there is a small triangular separation in panel edges, slightly greater on the inboard side of the consoles... (compare upper and lower arrow "gaps")

(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k578/VPSandman/Gap01_zps16c744bb.jpg)

This drove me crazy until I realized that the panel borders couldn't be exactly parallel between the forward and aft portions of the consoles, due to the difference in the console angles.

Mark (SANDMAN)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Romanski on July 15, 2013, 02:51:03 AM
your project is looking great Tulkas! 
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 15, 2013, 03:07:02 AM
Very well pointed Sandman. That small detail gave me so many headaches! I noticed it too late to include it in my right console though.

Cheers

Tulkas

P.S: Thanks Romansky!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: bluc69 on July 15, 2013, 04:15:57 AM
The angles of the consoles were giving headaches to most of us!!
I lost my head in the connection angle between lateral and auxiliary console...
 :brickwall: :brickwall:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Willy on July 15, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
Thanks for the updated console drawing showing both sides.

Willy
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 28, 2013, 06:58:56 AM
Well, last week I have been sick with fever for five days. Sounds bad, right? Think twice. Not having to go to work, with the kids at the kindergarten you have sometime (with some painkillers) for yourself.

So I decided to finish some small tasks pending on the pit.

I made a small avionincs box for the Cougar Stick PCB:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5087.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5087.jpg.html)

And this is what is left of the poor Cougar.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5090.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5090.jpg.html)

So I finally had the chance to make a fast test of how feels like to fly with a force sensor. I have had the FCC2 in a box since 2009... until yesterday. It was a very fast test, with the console detached from the cockpit, me in my knees and no calibration because I did not had the time to go very deep... not the ideal conditions and I got deeply impress nevertheless.

Dead accurate. Incredibly solid feeling, I thought I have been flying a simulator all this time with my faithful CH Fighterstick but now I feel it was a videogame and things has gotten serious with the FCC.

I installed as well my PFL screen. The G15 LCD with its uncomfortable long PCB and short ribbon. Always awkward to install but I think I solved it right:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5095.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5095.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5089.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5089.jpg.html)

It even works which is always a relieve :)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5096.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5096.jpg.html)

I painted my metal handmade right glareshield:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5112.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5112.jpg.html)

Even had the time and strength to cut out in metal the parts for the indexers:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5111.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5111.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas




Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JCook on July 28, 2013, 10:50:01 AM
Beautiful work Tulkas  :thumbsup:

Please post more pictures of your metal glareshield - it looks awesome.

John
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 28, 2013, 12:59:23 PM
Beautiful work Tulkas  :thumbsup:

Please post more pictures of your metal glareshield - it looks awesome.

John

Thanks for your words John. Look at this page of my thread. There you can see some detailed pictures of the construction process of the glareshields.

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=4184.195

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on July 28, 2013, 02:01:08 PM
Really nice looking job on those indexer parts... :hail: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Willy on July 30, 2013, 11:53:37 AM

I kept working on the glareshields:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3377.jpg)


Do you have a post of the dimensions and shape of the flat piece of aluminum that you cut before you began the bending process?  (Hopefully something I can import into my CAD package and then cut with my CNC Router.)

I will soon need to follow the same path and build my Glareshields so this information would be great.

Excellent work, by the way.
Willy
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 30, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
I´m afraid I did not keep the stencils but anyway, I departed long time ago from "dead accurate" real dimensions and these glareshields will fit no other pit than mine.

I keep though the pictures and dimensions I used as references to create my GS. They all come from VP forums but I can share in case some one missed anything.

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on August 04, 2013, 01:54:58 PM
Parent´s in law visit since Thursday, that means babysitters and some pit time.

I decided to give a try to make the CRU stowage bracket.

First some hammer work on a thick metal plate:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5113.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5113.jpg.html)

I decided to divided the part in two separate component. After some drilling and filling and I start to see it coming along:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5117.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5117.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5120.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5120.jpg.html)

After the painting works I am really happy with the result:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5127.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5127.jpg.html)

Installed in the cockpit:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5129.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5129.jpg.html)

And fullfilling its mission:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5138.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5138.jpg.html)

All in all an evenings work for a tiny little part but enjoyed making it, was very straight forward and with nice results. It´s all about the details after all.

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on August 04, 2013, 02:47:35 PM
Really nice - well worth the work; it looks the real thing!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: dkm on August 05, 2013, 01:25:24 AM
Wow - awesome metal work, nice job   :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JCook on August 05, 2013, 06:56:33 AM
Impressive metalwork.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 22, 2013, 04:11:35 PM
Ok, not too impressive progress but moving forward at least:

Working the knobs:

Putting order on the set to find thos belonging to the right console, which are the ones I am planing to paint:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5421.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5421.jpg.html)

Painting process (after drilling of course):

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5433.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5433.jpg.html)

I am quite happy with the final result:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5439.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5439.jpg.html)

The black knobs are for the Ky58. Nigel told me many Viper have them like that and I like to have some variation in the pit:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5430.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5430.jpg.html)

One of the most pleasant pit works: filling panels with switches. Not wiring them yet thought.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5449.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5449.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5448.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5448.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5447.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5447.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5440.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5440.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JCook on September 22, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
Nice work. What drilling technique did you use to get properly aligned shaft holes?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 22, 2013, 05:07:47 PM
For me the key is to have one of these http://www.clasohlson.com/uk/Cotech-Pillar-Drill/18-3054

As long as the knobs has a flat top they are easy to drill align. If they have a curve top then I use a piece of flat transparent plastic, put the knob under it bottom looking up and drill through the plastic.

I quote myself from a previous post:


First we find the center:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3680.jpg)

Second drill carefully going from 1mm to 6mm step by step. Later the two small holes for the fastening screws:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3786.jpg)

Subtle white coat and I mask a 1mm line:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3790.jpg)

Three coats of mate black and I mask 1mm to each said of the first line:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3808.jpg)

Three coats gray:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3810.jpg)

Removing the mask and three coats of transparent mate varnish, not bad looking:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3811.jpg)

The key is to be patient, respect the drying time and accept the job will take a few days. Here the front cover is install, everything will be functional except ADI adjust and selector PNEUMO/ELECT:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3819.jpg)



Hope it helps

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on September 22, 2013, 06:19:03 PM
Great work  :thumbsup: keep on going  :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: salaxi54 on September 23, 2013, 12:35:43 PM
Awesome work on them knobs Tulkas, keep it up mate!  :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 03, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
Thanks guys!

Keeping on with the panels on the right console.

For the DTU I was thinking for a while to make a full replica with a working door and put inside a USB connection or even an old disc reader. Finally I decided that was too much unnecessary work so I went for a far more simple replica made of some left over materials, metal, wood, screws:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5451.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5451.jpg.html)

It doesn´t look bad once painted:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5461.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5461.jpg.html)

I have also assemble the INT LGHT panel.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5457.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5457.jpg.html)

I really like this panel. I have so far installed four dimmers, every dimmer has a ON/OFF switch built in. I have put just a plain pot at the INST PNL as place holder. I can add another dimmer if I ever need it:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5458.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5458.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Climber on October 03, 2013, 02:22:27 PM
Nice work on the DTC. Looks like a good idea  :whistle: ;)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on October 03, 2013, 05:45:15 PM
Ingenious on the Lighting! What dimmer are you using?

 I've been asked for a functional DTU type panel, but it really is a complicated panel to replicate fully. I think a USB female plug  :beer:under the flip up would be just enough. Some day if I can get my hands on the real panel for a bit, I'll try to replicate it with at least some more detail. Nice work on yours
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on October 03, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
my DTU replica with datatag for download

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=7215.msg109606#msg109606

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on October 03, 2013, 06:04:45 PM



 :thumbsup:
my DTU replica with datatag for download

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=7215.msg109606#msg109606


Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 04, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
my DTU replica with datatag for download

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=7215.msg109606#msg109606

Nice one! Thanks!

I will print and place it this weekend.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Romanski on October 06, 2013, 08:37:38 AM
Thanks guys!

Keeping on with the panels on the right console.

For the DTU I was thinking for a while to make a full replica with a working door and put inside a USB connection or even an old disc reader. Finally I decided that was too much unnecessary work so I went for a far more simple replica made of some left over materials, metal, wood, screws:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5451.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5451.jpg.html)

It doesn´t look bad once painted:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5461.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5461.jpg.html)

I have also assemble the INT LGHT panel.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5457.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5457.jpg.html)

I really like this panel. I have so far installed four dimmers, every dimmer has a ON/OFF switch built in. I have put just a plain pot at the INST PNL as place holder. I can add another dimmer if I ever need it:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5458.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5458.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas

hi Tulkas,

What dimmers are you using in the lightning panel?

cheers,
Romanski
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 06, 2013, 12:31:33 PM
Ingenious on the Lighting! What dimmer are you using?

hi Tulkas,
What dimmers are you using in the lightning panel?

I´m giving these ones a try:

http://www.pilotlights.net/24-volt-dc-pwm-pulse-wave-modulation-dimmer-7a-capacity

I got them recommended here in the forums, people has use them with EL sheets if I remember right.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: dg_86 on October 06, 2013, 02:35:29 PM
So I was looking up the dimmers and saw the 4 channel kit where you get 4 rheostats but is for 12-14vdc. It is $65.00 instead of $30.00 for each dimmer. That would save $60.00 at least instead of buy the 4 individual dimmers. Either way these look like a great idea.

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t238/nocturnalsilence/8b6aba1f3674477165f0509bc102589d.jpg)

Dave
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on October 07, 2013, 02:09:55 AM
Just one note ...
Somewhere in my thread I wrote about PWM-based dimmers.
You may (or may not) encounter problems with this solution.
My dimmer design is also PWM-based (and adds some LIGHTING-specific functionality),
but can/will cause interference with other electronic circuits (like XKEYS) ...

Admitted, the "PWM way" is the easiest way to control brightness of lamps (and LEDs),
but this "easiness" comes [as always] at a price. PWM signals may cause interference,
called EMC or (perhaps better said) EMI. Shielding of cables may be required ...

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 07, 2013, 04:38:10 AM
Just one note ...
Somewhere in my thread I wrote about PWM-based dimmers.
You may (or may not) encounter problems with this solution.
My dimmer design is also PWM-based (and adds some LIGHTING-specific functionality),
but can/will cause interference with other electronic circuits (like XKEYS) ...

Admitted, the "PWM way" is the easiest way to control brightness of lamps (and LEDs),
but this "easiness" comes [as always] at a price. PWM signals may cause interference,
called EMC or (perhaps better said) EMI. Shielding of cables may be required ...

- Henk

Good you bring up the subject.

What are the alternatives to PWM that doesn't cause ghosting?
What's the mínimum distance you should keep between light wires and X-keys wires?
Does shielding really works? I thought I read Nigel saying that he, Kukki and others could not totally eliminate ghosting...

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on October 07, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
What are the alternatives to PWM that doesn't cause ghosting?
What's the mínimum distance you should keep between light wires and X-keys wires?
Does shielding really works? I thought I read Nigel saying that he, Kukki and others could not totally eliminate ghosting...

I can think of two other options.

1) a regulated power supply. By adjusting the output voltage you control the brightness. The drawback is dissipation in the power supply. The power supply input voltage (secondary voltage of the transformer) is fixed. You vary the output voltage. Thus, the difference between input and output voltage multiplied by the drawn current will be energy dissipated by the power supply, that is ... heat! This applies for so-called series-regulated power supplies. Switching power supplies is a totally different story, and way more complex. Sure not something you'd develop on a Sunday afternoon ...  :whistle:

2) the energy efficient method as used in The Real Thing.
In the F-16 they use a so-called "variac", which is just a "standard" transformer where you have a wiper contact on the secondary winding and get the output voltage that you want. The problem here is that common variacs are designed for 50 Hz or 60 Hz power nets and have a large (and heavy) iron packet as core to transfer the energy. If you find the variacs used in an aircraft you will see that they are always designed for operation at 400 Hz. That that frequency you need a lot less iron (weight!), thus these variacs are small and compact. Further, a common variac has an output range of 0 to 110% of the input voltage. In the aircraft the input voltage is 115V, but the output can only be set between 0 and 5 Volt!
At this moment there is a 115 V 400 Hz variac on eBay, but (I keep saying that) nothing comes for free. To use these variacs you need a high-power 115 Volt 400 Hz power supply, and those beast are not cheap  :(

As to minimum distance, it is easy to say "keep that as far away as possible" from each other, but in industrial equipment they use 10 cm and 20 cm distances. Close to (and inside) the panel that is of course not possible, but once cabling is away from the panel, a 10 cm distance between PWM-carrying wiring and switch matrix (and analog signal) wiring should be possible. Even when adhering to these distances, shielding is still advised in industrial equipment!
Yes, shielding does work, when properly applied. Use of chokes and capacitors on power supply leads is  also advised, but the results vary especially if shielding is not applied (due to economic reasons).
I am confident that in my pit I will get everything working  :whistle:   :wacko:   :taz:   :bat:

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 08, 2013, 04:43:12 PM
Thank you very much for taking the time for such a thorough explanation. I appreciate.

It looks for me it will PWM or nothing.

If you don´t mind one more question, what should I be looking for when we are talking about shielding?

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Guzzz on October 17, 2013, 07:25:31 AM
I installed as well my PFL screen. The G15 LCD with its uncomfortable long PCB and short ribbon. Always awkward to install but I think I solved it right:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5095.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5095.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5096.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5096.jpg.html)


Hi Tulkas,
Thanks for all the time you spend helping us all with this topic!

One question... or maybe two...
You use a G15 LCD in this picture.
Is this the G15 with the "fliping" screen?
How do you connect it to the ribbon? Any other Topic with this info?

I'm not sure what the right color for the DED and the PFD has to be.
I found people with gray/blu colored screens. Some others with orange screens and others with a yellow one.
Even some may use different colors in the same cockpit  ::)

Do you (or anyone) know what the right color should be? Or what se most looking like color should be?

Well... at last it took 5 questions....  :DOH:

THANKS AGAIN!!!

Saludos!
Guzzz

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 17, 2013, 07:40:05 AM
-Yes, I used the old G15 with the folding LCD.
-You can see the ribbon in my first progress page and here is the guide I used to take it apart.
http://vipercore.nl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90&Itemid=488
-I think the real displays are mostly yellow, slightly greenish maybe. Around here we have available some very close to the real thing if not identical, from Pegasus, Ghost, Shephard... if I am not mistaken.

Un saludo

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Guzzz on October 17, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
-Yes, I used the old G15 with the folding LCD.
-You can see the ribbon in my first progress page and here is the guide I used to take it apart.
http://vipercore.nl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90&Itemid=488
-I think the real displays are mostly yellow, slightly greenish maybe. Around here we have available some very close to the real thing if not identical, from Pegasus, Ghost, Shephard... if I am not mistaken.

Un saludo

Tulkas

 :beer2: GRACIAS!!!   <--- Thank You!!!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Guzzz on October 17, 2013, 08:37:41 AM
It looks like the old G15 has a longer ribbon.
Am I right?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 17, 2013, 12:00:08 PM
It looks like the old G15 has a longer ribbon.
Am I right?

I don´t really know because I have not seen the new G15.

The ribbon in the old one is annoyingly short, that I can tell you, but with some imagination as you see in my build you can use it both for DED and PFD.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 28, 2013, 03:30:48 AM
Well, well. Small steps towards finishing the right console.

Some work done on the guards from Nikolas:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5532.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5532.jpg.html)

For a while I thought about making them muself by hand. I am extremely happy I did not and ordered Niko's instead. Once painted they look amazing:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5534.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5534.jpg.html)

I used 2mm spring pins for the axis, I followed a neat tip (from sagrzmnky if I remember right?) and used a feeler gauge for the spring feeling. I used a M2 screw and nut to keep it in place.

So a couple of panels finished:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5536.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5536.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5568.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5568.jpg.html)

Also finished the AIR COND, but I have to change the screws on the TEMP knob for shorter ones:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5574.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5574.jpg.html)

DO NOT DISTURB! GENIUS AT WORK!  ;D

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5567.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5567.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rabbit on October 28, 2013, 05:30:33 AM
He Tulkas,
thats looking awsome

Very , Very nice work there

Cheers Rabs :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on October 28, 2013, 05:56:27 AM
Perfect replica  :thumbsup:  I see you have the canopy (metal) locker (How else i should call it) Do you have measurements of that part ?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on October 28, 2013, 06:05:12 AM
Very very nice work there Tulkas  :thumbsup:
You pit progress is going good I can see, super good work.

Keep posting pics and the good work.  :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 28, 2013, 08:02:36 AM
Perfect replica  :thumbsup:  I see you have the canopy (metal) locker (How else i should call it) Do you have measurements of that part ?

Hei JJ. I have totally invented the lockers from pictures and made them out of material from a hardware store:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_4719.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_4719.jpg.html)

Whatever resemblance with the real thing is pure coincidence. But it is a big compliment that you ask for the dimensions  ;)

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on October 28, 2013, 01:05:49 PM
Looking great Tulkas  :thumbsup:

Damn, I wish I was that far in pit building  :taz:
I like the (hexagonal) Allen screws instead of DZUS for panel mounting in the pit  8)  :whistle:

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on October 28, 2013, 01:11:13 PM



For a while I thought about making them muself by hand. I am extremely happy I did not and ordered Niko's instead. Once painted they look amazing:


I used 2mm spring pins for the axis, I followed a neat tip (from sagrzmnky if I remember right?) and used a feeler gauge for the spring feeling. I used a M2 screw and nut to keep it in place.



Cheers

Tulkas

someone actually used something that I did in their pits.... :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw: :harhar: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 28, 2013, 04:14:44 PM

I like the (hexagonal) Allen screws instead of DZUS for panel mounting in the pit  8)  :whistle:

I´d say they look EVEN better than the original DZUS, don´t you agree  :lol: :lol:

Thanks!

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on October 28, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
Whatever resemblance with the real thing is pure coincidence. But it is a big compliment that you ask for the dimensions  ;)


looks real ! great job
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: amido on October 30, 2013, 05:30:33 AM
Hi I would like to know what is the extent indicated by the red line.
thanks and really great job  :cheerleader:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 30, 2013, 07:48:00 AM
Hi I would like to know what is the extent indicated by the red line.
thanks and really great job  :cheerleader:

I will messure it for you but be aware that it's my cockpit dimensions, probably nothing to do with the real thing or a trainer.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on October 30, 2013, 10:04:06 AM
As Tulkas says, it DEPENDS on how you build your pit (how high you have build it, so be aware mate.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: amido on October 30, 2013, 10:08:16 AM
  I understand it was to get an idea of what is more or less, now I am building the aces so maybe I can understand better if I have to raise what I have already done so or if they go well so
I understand it was to get an idea of what is more or less, now I am building the aces so maybe I can understand better if I have to raise what I have already done so or if they go well so  :brickwall:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Taipan on October 30, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
Hi I would like to know what is the extent indicated by the red line.
thanks and really great job  :cheerleader:
There is a thread by feathers that gives these dimensions of his trainer if you want those ones
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on October 30, 2013, 01:10:31 PM
There is a thread by feathers that gives these dimensions of his trainer if you want those ones

That has actually been my main data source for the pit construction.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 02, 2014, 03:18:36 AM
Happy New Year!

I decided to finally ditch my temporary minipit to move the cockpit into is final position, so I will only fly sims again when the cockpit is finished. Expect test flights starting in the first part of 2014! I have now install a puzzle rubber floor the kind you use in gyms. I think it is a great addition for the cockpit both in looks and functionality:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5696.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5696.jpg.html)

Small details are everything. This pit is a family enterprise, I got my mother and sister to make a small bag for safety pins. I just printed a sticker and it looks good:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5691.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5691.jpg.html)

More belts for the ACESII. I got survival kit straps from a F4, cut them, and screw under the seat pad (no opening seat in my ACESII so no actual survival kit):

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5700.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5700.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on January 02, 2014, 07:01:44 AM
That's a real good looking pit....wow  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Dragun on January 02, 2014, 01:07:37 PM
 Good job and good news....wow  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 16, 2014, 04:45:41 PM
Finally the only missing panel on the right console is here, Ky58. My information said that the up-right rotary was a 30 degrees/12 position but it cannot be, probably a 10 pos? Anyway for the time being will stay with the 12 pos, i don´t think I will use much this panel. Useless but nice looking though.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5703.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5703.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5707.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5707.jpg.html)

Too late to lit the Christmas lights. I finaly sat with my Jay-el, changed the lenses, removed all the old wiring and lead, clean the contacts and rewire:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5708.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5708.jpg.html)

In the picture you see the indicators ambar but the actual color is the one you see in the reflection, pure red:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5710.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5710.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5717.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5717.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5718.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5718.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5721.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5721.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on January 16, 2014, 06:01:15 PM
Looks great Tulkas !!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on January 16, 2014, 08:34:27 PM
I love seeing those lights!  Nice work... :thumbsup: .
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on January 17, 2014, 04:30:14 PM

 :clap:   now, that's what I call eye candy  :thumbsup:

stunningly beautiful !  :hail:

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ski on January 17, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
That is awesome achievement. Great job on the lights. :yihaw:
Ski
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: AJ212 on January 21, 2014, 08:17:53 AM
Hey Tulkas,

Very nice pit coming along here... I like your idea of the dimmers on the lighting panel... Thanks for posting the link to the source... I probaly will also update my dimmer since the function of my current one is very limited (it's broken  ::) - nerver found the time so far to repair it...  :lolsign: )

Keep the pics comin'

BR,
AJ212
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Killratio on January 22, 2014, 12:07:47 AM
Nice work...for me the lights are the main fascination with a physical pit.

D
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 22, 2014, 02:19:26 PM
Thanks guys!

I have not tested the dimmers yet myself. It will be the last thing I implement in the cockpit because I am not able to decide what kind of power supply to use and anyway you don´t need the flood and backlightning to fly, is pure eyecandy.

So if you test the dimmers I´d be very interested about you report AJ, I have hear many ghost(ing) stories with the backlight so that´s what I am more afraid about. By the way I am also following your build and wondered how much will cost me to hire you to make my wiring  :) I suck at it!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: AJ212 on January 23, 2014, 06:59:35 AM
Yeah, the dimmer(s)... I placed my order on Tuesday for the 4CH dimmer on the page in your link... We'll see how long it will take to get them to AUT  ::)

Wiring the pit is realy challenging! It took me a long time to get it  to the state I'm right now... and I'm still not fully done yet  ::)

Missing items are the Seat electronics and some panels which still have to be developed...

If you need some help / info during wiring let me know...  :thumbsup:

BR,
AJ212
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 29, 2014, 05:36:09 AM
I have started the test flights!. Of course I don't have left side of the cockpits yet so the throttle is on one of the ICP thumbwheels, good enough since these flights are just to test systems as I implement them

-Cougar Stick-FCC2 working. FCC2 is amazing. Now I have kind to relearn to fly, is quite different with a press sensor.
-DED and PFD are working together with the ICP (fully mapped now), including thumbwheels and HUD on/off switch.
-Seat arming and ejection handle working.
-Rotaries for altimeter setting and HDG/CRS in the HSI working as well.
-MFDs frames working.

MISC, FUEL QTY e INSTR are ready to be mapped after changing my old Xkey board for the new model.

I have started from scratch a .KEY file and I am discovering many interesting things you can do editing this file, until now I always used BMS UI->WRONG. Especially for a pit builder. Editing the .KEY you have access to many options not possible from the UI (shft, execute at push/release, etc...) even more, don't use the BMS UI because it will fuck up your .KEY, better edit them with Notepad+.

In your BMS installation go to BMS/User/Joystick/Generic/Kolbe and you will find the documents which teach you how to edit the .KEY. There are as well some .KEY files by Kolbe which are just great because all the callbacks are ordered by panels, starting from the back left of the cockpit all the way to the back right. Just brilliant to work wiyh them.

I know most of you know all this, but, hey, I didn't so maybe some other gets a good tip.

Now pictures, right console complete!!. Now is just to wire and buy all the AIC instruments!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5731.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5731.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5734.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5734.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5737.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5737.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5739.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5739.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5740.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5740.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5726.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5726.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on January 29, 2014, 06:50:08 AM
Damn good Tulkas....damn good!!!!
 :thumbsup: :hail:
G.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Catcher on January 29, 2014, 08:09:48 AM
Great pit :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on January 29, 2014, 08:35:35 AM
I'ts a joy to watch this pit. great details
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 23, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
The beast is slowly waking up...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5823.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5823.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5803.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5803.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_5813.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG_5813.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Killratio on February 24, 2014, 02:15:45 AM
Beautiful stuff!!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Snowman on February 24, 2014, 02:29:26 AM
High quality!

Great!

Snowman
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ski on February 24, 2014, 06:36:33 AM
Tulkas, those are awesome pics. This is what motivates me. See other members finished pit. Great job.
Ski
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on February 25, 2014, 03:39:10 PM
Super pit  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 12, 2014, 04:49:12 AM
This one took quite some time. You can see the 25pins connection for Xkeys and the light connection for the AIC lightboard:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140309_213826.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140309_213826.jpg.html)

Somehow I got funny colours with the phone camera. Looks better for real:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140309_153235.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140309_153235.jpg.html)

One more step.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Wolverine on March 12, 2014, 06:59:57 AM
masterwork  :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on March 14, 2014, 10:52:51 AM
Great job Tulkas...very nice one!
G
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Snowman on March 14, 2014, 05:11:14 PM
Very nice work. Also great wiring!
Snowman
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Cupra on March 15, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
Looks really great :) You also have some pics frombehind and how you made this part?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on March 16, 2014, 04:21:42 PM
As I told Sky I am the last guy you should take as a reference for wiring, I hardly know what am I doing. but here is a picture. Now it was installed in the cockpit so it was difficult to take a picture.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20140313_202638.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20140313_202638.jpg.html)

Anyway my wiring is pretty straight forward. It´s not a real TWP but 6 individual Jay-EL with Mike´s panel. The five top pins are the lights. The six parallel ones are the switches.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20140215_125501.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20140215_125501.jpg.html)

Regarding the lights I wired the central pin to the loaded pin of the AIC. For the LAUNCH indicator I wired together the other four pins. For the other indicators I wired together the two on the outside for the upper lights and the two on each side of the common for the lower lights (if i recall right).

Regarding the switch I wired together all the number 3 pin of every Jay-El to column 15 of the Xkeys and pin number 2 to rows 1-6 of the Xkeys.

I know there are some lights that are not yet in the shared memory and some people makes some fancy wiring to get them going but I will just hope that those lights will go to the SM in the future and from there to AIC.

Hope it helps

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on March 16, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
As far as i understood should the TWP be full wired for the next edition of BMS.....It are all pushbuttons with a function..
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Romanski on March 21, 2014, 02:04:40 AM
Looks very good mate! Congrats on this !

Romanski
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 11, 2014, 09:18:49 AM
Hi guys.

So far so good, my right console it´s wired and working nicely with Xkeys. I have progress a lot on my Falcon .KEY file which I started from scratch following Kolbe and Red Dog indications and I am extremely happy I decided to do this. All screens are working so I have started to test fly using my CH prothtrottle until my left console it´s made which I hope will hapend along the summer.

But I need some help here because my frames are not that good since I started to use the multiscreen setup. Well not so sure it´s actually the FPM or some stuttering or stuff like that.

All help for optimization will be very welcome, especially from thoses of you who use ATI multiscreen.

My computer:

Z77A-G43
i5 2500K OC 4.5Ghz
8GB RAM
RADEON HD 6950 - 2GB
RADEON HD 5450

Screens connected

MAIN 47 - 1920x1800 -ATI 6950
CP 10.4 - 800x600 -MB built-in graphic card
2xMFD 8 - 800x600 -ATI 5450
HSI 4.3 - 640x480 (native 480x272) -ATI 6950
RWR 5 - 640x480 -ATI 6950

Position:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/screens.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/screens.jpg.html)


All help for optimization will be very welcome, especially from thoses of you who use ATI multiscreen. I wanted to use native resolution for all screens but I was not able to do with the HSI.

I have turn off Vertical Sinc. in Falcon
I see no improvements using "empty shell" view which puzzles me

Thanks!

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: mrwell on May 11, 2014, 05:12:21 PM
Buenas paisano,
my rig is very similar to your one and my config too but I'm gonna use three 32" TVs for main screen and a second light PC for secondary support soft and screens (with GPT). Total of 9, apart from Android screens.

Jcenzano showed me a soft called Ultramon It's a payware that cost every penny you spend on it. It allows you to store and load fast and easily any screen config you wanna use. That will help you a lot with you testing.
In the other hand SoftTH http://www.kegetys.fi/downloads/softth/ allows you to put all load in your most powerful graphic card but you can use every screen connection at the same time. It makes easier multiple screens configs and maybe helps with FPSs too.

Have fun y espero que te sirva (hope it helps)!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 12, 2014, 03:06:36 AM
Thanks!

I will have a look on those programs. I consider as well using a second computer but only as a last resort. I think life is easier using just one. Do you have a screenshot of your screen positioning?

No sabia que Chipi era cabinero  :)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: mrwell on May 12, 2014, 03:11:59 PM
Chipi (Jcenzano) was the one who told me about using a second rig. With GPT is easy to drive more screens and faster that I expected using 1Gb LAN. He has MFDs that way. I bought an cheap i3 and it's enough for that.

He has a desk cockpit full of PCDash2 (sort of 6?) working all together. It's not an scale cockpit but very functional.
And that second PC is very good for Bandicam and debriefings aids also.


I still don´t have my config done. I have almost all the structure and I'm collecting screens right now. I've received both for MFDs, wiring for RWR one and I need to get my hands on the others 32" TVs yet. I've tested 3 screens at a time with two miniDP to VGA adapters (HD6970 with 2 mDP, 2 DVI & 1 HDMI) and  and it worked fine.

I've just finished 16 panels (the most important) and I've just received Hispapales to redo LG and MISC panel. I was out of home and that's what I could do. They are cabled for PSCockpits and 2 Pokeys (yes, I need to make my own building thread...  :whistle:)

I'm going back to Madrid soon and willing to begin mounting things on my pit.

Have fun!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 14, 2014, 02:18:36 AM
I thought the MFDs cannot be estracted from a second computer, only the instruments from MFDE.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: mrwell on May 14, 2014, 02:44:14 AM
You can do that with Gigurra's GPT software ;) not only MFDs but also HUD, other instruments, etc
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 14, 2014, 05:07:17 AM
Thanks. I searched him on Benchmark forums and found many interesting posts. All good information if I decide to go for two computers.


But going back to one computer solution, anyone knows if it would it be smart to move the two MFD to my primary GPU?

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: mrwell on May 14, 2014, 12:59:25 PM
I don't think so. I've planned before to put MFDs on processor GPU (HD3000). They don't need too much FPS nor refresh. You'll be wasting main GPU with that, rather use it for main screen ;)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 20, 2014, 03:53:13 AM
Well. I spent some time testing and moving the screens around. Finally the best solution was to place the screens on the main GPU, the 6950. I moved the HSI and the RWR to the 5450.

In this way I don't get FPS hit at all. Smooooth, it's just a joy to fly. You don't believe me? Here you have me performing an aerial refual in the middle of a turn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN3267ULtTo

I am extremely happy. I was a bit worried about the transition from normal joysticks to a Force stick. I had quite good skills in close formation and refuel with my old CHFighterstick and I was worried about losing them after making the transition to the cockpit, especially after so much work and money invested.

But it's going great. FCC2 and I are becoming good friends after just a few flights.

I have now wired and program all the important panels of the right console. No major problems with the XKeys, just a diode which failed and got ghosting all over the place but I traced the problem down very quicky to the right hardpoints switch, changed the diode and all fine:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20140405_225232.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20140405_225232.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20140322_132904.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20140322_132904.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20140428_212805.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20140428_212805.jpg.html)

I plan to eventually wire every single panel on the right console in prevision of future BMS updates and to host non cockpit simulation functions.

But that task is pospone because I got this in my mail from Mike:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140516_213920.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140516_213920.jpg.html)

This means I can start the last part of the cockpit, the left side.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: mrwell on May 20, 2014, 04:42:21 AM
Wow, that panels are awesome. I cannot afford them right now but I have them planned for the future.
I tried FCC2 from a VW pal and it's almost no learning curve at all. It's very intuitive. Anyway, cannot afford it either so I'm planning to make my load cell pressure stick mod (already have Pistolero's one but it's too sensitive).
By the way, why didn´t you take FCC3?.

I'm hoping to see how your left consoles goes!

Have fun!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on May 20, 2014, 07:32:58 AM
It all looks super,  good luck with the left side  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on May 20, 2014, 02:26:05 PM
Really nice vid, and great work mate  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 02, 2014, 10:35:30 AM
Thanks guys!

By the way, why didn´t you take FCC3?.

Well, it was not available in 2009 when I bought it. It has been in a box since then. Time past fast!

I may upgrade it later on if such a thing is possible but right now is working great so I prefer just to enjoy it.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on June 05, 2014, 10:39:01 AM
Tulkas, your pit is remarkable! Great to see things come together after so many years work. Like many here, yours is a long term pit and great to see you stick it out over the long run. The pictures speak for themself of the rewards. Inspirational! :beer2:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 06, 2014, 03:59:13 PM
Thanks for your words Mike. Yes, it´s taking long but I am a patient man. We should always pursuit our childhood dreams no matter how long it takes, makes life much more interesting  :) And this very particular dream is coming true thanks to what you have put together and kept alive here at Viperpits. It sounds cliché but it´s how it is, I could not have even dream about having this beast in my house without the knowledge, products and help coming from VP.

So, thank you Mike  :thumbsup:

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Moon on June 08, 2014, 06:48:34 AM
Brilliant work Tulkas.  Your pit looks great!

The quality of your painted knobs really caught my eye.  Thanks for the excellent tutorial earlier in your thread.  I have it bookmarked for later.

Your pics are really good - is photography a hobby of yours as well?

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 09, 2014, 05:16:55 AM
Thanks!

Well, I want the photography to be a hobby in the future, now I lack the time. That said, when I have the time and especially to take photos of finished cockpit parts I pull out my good camera (EOS 45D), take care of lightning, shutter speed, etc.. and make white balance correction to try to show the actual color. Quite happy you noticed it!  :lol:

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 24, 2014, 02:18:26 AM
Hi there! I've been quiet for a while. Many things going on, first the summer holidays with a lot of real flying

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/vuelo/vlcsnap-2014-08-27-22h57m12s101.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/vuelo/vlcsnap-2014-08-27-22h57m12s101.jpg.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUyTl6vBwW0&list=UURQmIzU1t4uhJTaLBzVVTrQ

Back to Norway I have been preparing for my PPL-A theory exam now in October. The theory is in norwegian and I am spanish so it is an extra challenge for me but I think I can do ok. On the sad side we have had some tough weeks where we have to say bye to our very much beloved dog Eco:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/eco/PA100094.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/eco/PA100094.jpg.html)

But not all work have been stop on the pit. To be honest, the little time I have had for the pit I have preferred tos pend flying it rather than building. I have had some great sunday night missions with my squad enjoying my half pit:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140525_232836.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140525_232836.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140706_003250-1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140706_003250-1.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140706_002508-1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140706_002508-1.jpg.html)

I have found an excelent solution for the problem of having a mouse in the cokpit. This tiny trackball cost me 17 bucks in ebay, works great, rest in my lap or in the safety pin stowage bag at the back of the pit and... even the colors match the pit  :lol:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140806_233749.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140806_233749.jpg.html)

Work have slowly started on the left console. As almost everybody, I had a hard time dealing with the angles on the auxiliary console. After some compromises I got a solution that satisfied me:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140712_211055.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140712_211055.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140712_143019.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140712_143019.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140713_163254.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140713_163254.jpg.html)

Since I have all the panels for the consoles I could start as well to design and make the "DZUS" railings:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140716_230022.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140716_230022.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140725_224611.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140725_224611.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20140725_224917.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140725_224917.jpg.html)

I cannot wait to fly with a complete pit!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on September 24, 2014, 02:32:35 AM
Tulkas -

I feel sorry for your loss. Eco looks beautiful.
It's funny how we get attached to a dog or a cat.
Even years after they are gone, I keep good memories of my 2 cats.
I hope you did better than me and have lots of pictures of Eco.
I only have a few of Spotje and Poekie  :(

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on September 24, 2014, 02:43:38 AM
great pictures Tulkas  :thumbsup:
Very nice trackball indeed !  I got an Rii "keyboard" with touch-sensitive pad. It uses 2.4GHz wireless connection and measures just some 16x6 cm (approx.)  But as a builder, I have not yet tested it  :-[

The "DZUS" rails look very nice and with the panels on top it looks awesome great  :thumbsup:
I only have the right console, but seeing these great pictures gives me momentum to start on the left side too.
Using Martin's frame and then adding the L shape aluminum profiles gives very little room for M6 nuts, so I have a lot of extra work to make rectangular holes in the profiles and then I still have to file one side of each M6 nut  ::)
As everything in life, it is a trade off. Either much time spent and use M6 or much money spent and use real DZUS. I have chosen for the first option  :whistle:

Thanks, and success on your upcoming exam,
- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Wolverine on September 24, 2014, 03:15:07 AM
I'm so sorry for your dog!

....your work is fantastic  :yihaw:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on September 24, 2014, 11:30:45 AM
I am sorry to hear about your dog. I use to have a Husky. They are very beautiful animals.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Red Dog on September 24, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
Hi there! I've been quiet for a while. Many things going on, first the summer holidays with a lot of real flying

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/vuelo/vlcsnap-2014-08-27-22h57m12s101.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/vuelo/vlcsnap-2014-08-27-22h57m12s101.jpg.html)
Back to Norway I have been preparing for my PPL-A theory exam now in October. The theory is in norwegian and I am spanish so it is an extra challenge for me but I think I can do ok.

Nice Tulkas, What kind of aircraft is that?
I am currently Learning to fly  a DA-20. Low wing, hi tail stick aircraft and I love it.
PPLA theory is around the corner as well.
looks like we're doing the same stuff :)

Quote
But not all work have been stop on the pit. To be honest, the little time I have had for the pit I have preferred tos pend flying it rather than building. I have had some great sunday night missions with my squad enjoying my half pit:
[IMG] (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20140525_232836.jpg.html)
I can understand that very much, well done. It's a great motivation as well.
Nice checklists btw :) :)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on September 24, 2014, 02:38:53 PM
Nice Tulkas, What kind of aircraft is that?
I am currently Learning to fly  a DA-20. Low wing, hi tail stick aircraft and I love it.
PPLA theory is around the corner as well.
looks like we're doing the same stuff :)

Hi RD. It´s a Tecnam P96 Golf. Lovely low wing plane with stick, it can be used both for general aviation or ultralight. A real joy to fly. I have been flying it every time I visit Spain in the summer so I have around 100h on it, now finally I felt my work/family situation was better to study for the flying license so there I am. Norwegian theory is being real hard for me though.

I´m happy you are doing the same, simulated flying is great, but nothing beats real flying, right? ;)


I can understand that very much, well done. It's a great motivation as well.
Nice checklists btw :) :)

Nice checklists indeed  ;D You have made and keep making a great job for the community. For me half of the fun of a mission is to prepare and organize all the papers for the flight in y kneeboards. Very important work now that I don´t have anymore the luxury of a desk in front of me!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JJ on September 24, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Story of a real F16 pilot :  Flying other planes you have to correct after a movement short to to the right with a short correction to the Left.  When you do that with a F16 you are upside down  :harhar:  ( I love the stories of the real F16 pilots)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on December 01, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
About time for an update. I had some days off in Christmas and used some time for pit building making good progress not only on visible stuff but also in planning and decision making. I have made out my mind for the electronics: Xkeys and BU0836X for inputs and AIC for outputs.

Finally I added a car seatbelt tensor to the ACESII, I removed the ball mechanism that blocks the thing if it is not perfectly vertical. It was a pain in the ass. I would say my seat is now finish:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3212.jpg)

I have modified some Aerospace light switches with Mike's lenses. They look great. I have changed them from latching to non-latching by dremeling away the little tip on the mast. I just noticed they have actually no pushing button function so I thought maybe to put a tactile button inside would do the trick:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3232.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3231.jpg)

The main job these days has been finishing the CP which has been waiting half done for almos two years.:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3230.jpg)

The front face is metal with the instruments bezels made in three parts. The first part is glued to the front face and I have insert M3 nuts on the corners. The other two part of the bezel are screwed to the first one so I can remove them if I need to change or fix the encoder.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB300095.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/PB300096.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3236.jpg)

Masking the instruments lenses to spray paint them:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3238.jpg)

Glueing the bezels:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3239.jpg)

On place:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3338.jpg)

Screens test. Looks grat:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3370.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3374.jpg)

I have peinted the fix parts of th AOA, VVI, HSI and ADI instruments and paste them on top of the screen, this is just a test with normal paper. I think it adds some "physic" appearance. And looks cooler when the screens are off. I liked it so I will print the definitive in photo paper.

I have started to make my glareshields with alu. I use advanced machinery for the bendings:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3339.jpg)

Curve shapes are not a problem for this high tech:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG_3342.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas

Tulkas,

where did you get those tiny encoders for the HSI?
I need a flat encoder since I have a screen under the bezel

Thanks,
Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on December 01, 2014, 01:10:37 PM
Hey Mate!
Wow man that is some cool stuff you are doing there, SUPER WORK  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 :vprules:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: amido on December 02, 2014, 06:16:24 AM
very nice job!!  :clap:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: bluc69 on December 02, 2014, 08:14:59 AM
Ehm, guys, this post is just three years old.... :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: amido on December 02, 2014, 09:49:48 AM
 :digger:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on December 02, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Ehm, guys, this post is just three years old.... :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Yes, but nobody noticed how great the work was until now... :D
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 03, 2014, 02:14:34 AM
Well, thanks -again- for your kind words for something I did 4 years ago  :lol:


Tulkas,

where did you get those tiny encoders for the HSI?
I need a flat encoder since I have a screen under the bezel

Thanks,
Asi

The encoder number is:

ALPS EC11B15202AA

I don't remember where I bought it since it was such a long time ago but most likely was Mouser Electr. or RS-Online

Hope it helps

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on December 03, 2014, 01:16:10 PM
http://www.onlinecomponents.com/alps-electric-ec11b15202aa.html?p=10113534&utm_content=ZNwyfd31&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=SKUs+1&utm_term=ec11b15202aa&cshift_ck=334EB611-412D-402A-A531-B73B0800D4CAcsZNwyfd31
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 25, 2015, 01:50:05 AM
I have been a bit lazy working on the pit lately -I'd rather fly it!- but I decided it was enough and it was about time to give that left side a push and finish it. So here we go again.

Completed the "DZUS" rails for the back portion of the left console:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG-20141113-WA0002.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/IMG-20141113-WA0002.jpeg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20141114_210906.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20141114_210906.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/IMG-20141118-WA0002.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/IMG-20141118-WA0002.jpeg.html)

Working on the left aux.console:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20141219_210227.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20141219_210227.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20150124_212817.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20150124_212817.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/20150124_220558.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/20150124_220558.jpg.html)

More to come!

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on February 25, 2015, 02:08:23 AM
Very clean made "DZUS" rails Tulkas  --  and great looking pit so far  :thumbsup:
Mine are horrible to look at, but I have Martin's frame and mount the L-shape aluminium profile onto the frame parts. The extra thickness that adds and the M6 screws make it a very tight fit.
So, I could not cut a thread in the "DZUS" like you did. As a result I have to resort to some strong language when I get the nuts on the screws (and the nuts are filed at one side to give more space)   :harhar: :(

 :notes:  Use M5 instead of M6 screws if you implement "poor man's DZUS" (too late for me  :DOH: )

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 25, 2015, 06:14:20 AM
Thanks Henkie.

Well, too late for me too, I have already use the M6 all over the pit. But I am no enountering the problems you mention. In fact the M6 head size it's almost the same to that of the DZUS...

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on February 25, 2015, 06:49:06 AM
In fact the M6 head size it's almost the same to that of the DZUS...

That's why I had choosen M6  :D
You have a very nice fit, because the L-shape profiles is all in your construction.
I kept Martin's frame and added the profiles  ::)

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JCook on February 25, 2015, 06:04:04 PM
Really nice work
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: MailMan on February 25, 2015, 07:13:03 PM
All you need now is some wheels and a Crew Chief.  Great job!   :yihaw:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on May 21, 2015, 02:45:35 PM
So I tell people how to view the calendar and yet still nobody helps with the birthday wishes. Good thing I am still here.....
 :bday: :bday: :bouncegroup: :bouncegroup:      HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 21, 2015, 04:29:19 PM
Thanks a lot for the good wishes. I got many nice presents today but no one of the packages contained a manual opening canopy handle :whistle: ...just in case anyone wants to pick the hint  :lol:

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on May 22, 2015, 08:14:21 AM
Hey @Tulkas

happy birthday!  :balloons:

I saw your upcoming birthday a few days ago, but RL issues distracted me a lot  :(

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 22, 2015, 02:22:40 PM
Thank you very much Henkie!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 10, 2015, 07:02:56 AM
Well, life has been busy but I cannot really complain, one of the reasons is that I have been flying for real quite a bit. After passing my theory exam I am currently well into the instruction program, solo phase and expecting start crosscountry when I'm back from hollidays:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Vuelo%20HOVDEN%2004-10/20150608_232300.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Vuelo%20HOVDEN%2004-10/20150608_232300.jpg.html)

Flying in Norway is incredibly beatiful but quite challenging as well...

But back on the cockpit, I have had some time to move forward a bit on the left side:

I decided to place the throttle according to pictures and later on place the guide and side walls fitting the throttle position. I thought that would be easier than fiddling around with the whole throttle setup...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150302-WA0005.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150302-WA0005.jpeg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150420-WA0001.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150420-WA0001.jpeg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150302-WA0008.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150302-WA0008.jpeg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150302-WA0008.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150302-WA0008.jpeg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150422-WA0003.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150422-WA0003.jpeg.html)

Once I have happy with the position for the throttle I started with the metal work, painting, detailing, etc...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150520-WA0001.jpeg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150520-WA0001.jpeg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150602_211653.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150602_211653.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150607_214740.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150607_214740.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150607_215005.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150607_215005.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150607_214749.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150607_214749.jpg.html)

And now I am leaving for holidays and hopefully when I come back I will be able to finish and make functional the throttle setup and go back to BMS flying while I start panel wiring.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: tiger-31 on June 10, 2015, 08:00:07 AM
Looking great Tulkas.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on June 10, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
Impressive progress  :thumbsup:  Looking great!  Holidays well earned  ;D

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on June 10, 2015, 03:09:13 PM
I learned to fly in the Sierra Nevada mountains of southern California...I would LOVE to be able to fly in Norway... :hail: ...very pretty country indeed!

Nice work on the Viper pit as well... :thumbsup: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Hammer.PT on July 27, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
Hey Tulkas,
Great pit.
I have a couple questions.
For your Aces II you used 12mm MDF, as states in the plan ?
I cannot find 12mm and 6mm MDF in Portugal.
Just 10mm, 16mm, 3mm :(
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on July 29, 2015, 01:47:34 AM
Hey Tulkas,
Great pit.
I have a couple questions.
For your Aces II you used 12mm MDF, as states in the plan ?
I cannot find 12mm and 6mm MDF in Portugal.
Just 10mm, 16mm, 3mm :(

Hi.

Well, I used speedone's ACESII plans and I don't remember if it specified to use 12mm. It has been 5 years, you know  ;) Anyways, more often that not I don't finde the specific material requested for a particular set of instructions so I always end up modifying and adapting to the materials I have at hand.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Falcao on July 30, 2015, 03:44:27 AM
If you use 12mm wood with speedone plans the seat will be bigger than the tub, if you use real tub dimensions. For speedone....10mm is the right one!

I dont know about Brendas plans, just a matter of testing it!

Btw @Tulkas great update, still inspiring! Looking forward to the right side update! ;)
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on July 30, 2015, 11:09:03 PM
If you use 12mm wood with speedone plans the seat will be bigger than the tub, if you use real tub dimensions. For speedone....10mm is the right one!

I dont know about Brendas plans, just a matter of testing it!

Btw @Tulkas great update, still inspiring! Looking forward to the right side update! ;)

I think Brenda's plans are the best you can get for the seat. They are very close to accurate and the seat looks great.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 04, 2015, 05:05:32 AM
RL is really hectic at the moment with the new baby, the two other kids, the real flying, my dayly job and and master I decided (fooly?  :wacko:) to start. So very little pit building time and very envious watching everybody drooling over 4.33.

I could however, sneak here and there some time to complete one of the most daunting tasks of the whole pit: install the throttle and the rail guide.

First I intended to install the pivot axis and the arm with the cougar handle and second install the throttle rail just to fit the movement of the previously installed throttle. That appears to me much easier that doing it the other way around, first install the rail and then try to fit the throttle.

I started with a brand new Cougar throttle ready to be slaughtered  :'(  It is for a good cause:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150918_172528.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150918_172528.jpg.html)

I take a lot of pictures of the wires before removing them for future reference:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150918_173430.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150918_173430.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150918_174114.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150918_174114.jpg.html)

Poor thing:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150918_174630.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150918_174630.jpg.html)

Now the adaptor is installed:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150918_181101.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150918_181101.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20150918_181130.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20150918_181130.jpg.html)

And installing on the arm:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150918-WA0013.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150918-WA0013.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150918-WA0015.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150918-WA0015.jpg.html)

At last the throttle is placed. For this I used mostly cockpit pictures to place the base:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/IMG-20150918-WA0017.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20150918-WA0017.jpg.html)

Then the rail was placed after many, many tries screwed to a woden block.

I finally one of the moments I have been dreaming about in this building process, when I finally get to slide my F16 throttle across all its gates and detents:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7HbpgJN5uo

Well after this, the rest of the left console should be an easy ride downhill  :yeah:

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Davies on November 04, 2015, 06:33:22 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Very great work my Master!! :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

But you know I´ll fly before you, won´t you? :-P :-P :-P

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: wralex on November 04, 2015, 07:13:21 AM
Very nice Tulkas! It's exactly the same step that I will do this weekend! Your picture will be a ref!

How do you plan to connect the throttle pot? Do you plan to use the original pot?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 04, 2015, 07:49:08 AM
Wralex, I am going to give this pot a try:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/HRS100SSAB090/480-3281-ND/1956411?wt.z_cat_cid=Dxn_US_US2011_Catlinkhttp://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/HRS100SSAB090/480-3281-ND/1956411?wt.z_cat_cid=Dxn_US_US2011_Catlink

The idea is to attach an arm to that pot and link it to the throttle arm by a rod, don't have the parts yet, currently checking RC material to get inspired.

But you know I´ll fly before you, won´t you? :-P :-P :-P

Maybe, but I will fly so much better than you  :-P

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: wralex on November 04, 2015, 08:12:08 AM
Thank you Tulkas, that's exactly what I'm planning to do! I will follow this on your pit!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Greyfox on November 04, 2015, 08:19:29 AM
Nice job Tulkas!! Can I ask if you bought the arm and the adaptor and from where? It looks very nice!

Best regards
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 04, 2015, 08:27:04 AM
Nice job Tulkas!! Can I ask if you bought the arm and the adaptor and from where? It looks very nice!

Best regards

Thanks Grayfox! Arm and adaptor come from Rabbit in this very same forum:

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=1000

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on November 04, 2015, 05:23:37 PM
Wralex, I am going to give this pot a try:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/HRS100SSAB090/480-3281-ND/1956411?wt.z_cat_cid=Dxn_US_US2011_Catlinkhttp://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/HRS100SSAB090/480-3281-ND/1956411?wt.z_cat_cid=Dxn_US_US2011_Catlink

The idea is to attach an arm to that pot and link it to the throttle arm by a rod, don't have the parts yet, currently checking RC material to get inspired.

But you know I´ll fly before you, won´t you? :-P :-P :-P

Maybe, but I will fly so much better than you  :-P

Cheers

Tulkas

I use this same pot in mine and it seems to work great so far.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Greyfox on November 04, 2015, 05:29:15 PM
Nice job Tulkas!! Can I ask if you bought the arm and the adaptor and from where? It looks very nice!

Best regards

Thanks Grayfox! Arm and adaptor come from Rabbit in this very same forum:

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=1000

Cheers

Tulkas


Thanks Tulkas!

Best regards
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on November 05, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
again very accurate work

I've noticed that going from CUTOFF to ideal you don't press the pinky
. I'll check mine to see if it the same cause I think that I have to press the pinky.... :notes:

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: sagrzmnky on November 06, 2015, 02:49:54 AM
again very accurate work

I've noticed that going from CUTOFF to ideal you don't press the pinky
. I'll check mine to see if it the same cause I think that I have to press the pinky.... :notes:

Asi

From what I understand the only time you use the pinky lever is to go into idle cutoff. It is not used for afterburner either. The video seems accurate.
@Tulkas I have Rabbits throttle assembly also. How close is the arm to the guide rail when you go into idle cut off? Mine is practically rubbing the rail.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 06, 2015, 05:12:02 AM
@Tulkas I have Rabbits throttle assembly also. How close is the arm to the guide rail when you go into idle cut off? Mine is practically rubbing the rail.

If you mean the clareance between the "horn" that follows the rail and the notch that separates idle from the cut off position, yes, it is tight but possible not to touch if you lift the handle all the way up.

I hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rabbit on November 06, 2015, 05:19:19 AM
Hello Tulkas its nice to see that the trottle asembly works , and  the fitting in the left console looks very smooth and perfect.
The best feeling is that the alloi is firm and not wobbaly like rasin or wood, it just feels sollid.

Nice job my frind[

Cheers Rabs

quote author=Tulkas link=topic=4184.msg146404#msg146404 date=1446804722]
@Tulkas I have Rabbits throttle assembly also. How close is the arm to the guide rail when you go into idle cut off? Mine is practically rubbing the rail.

If you mean the clareance between the "horn" that follows the rail and the notch that separates idle from the cut off position, yes, it is tight but possible not to touch if you lift the handle all the way up.

I hope that makes sense.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on November 06, 2015, 06:45:05 AM
Thanks Rabbit.

I am very happy with your arm and adaptor, all the elements have a very tight fit so there is no "play" and fills very very solid.  :thumbsup:

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 07, 2015, 05:32:20 AM
Slowly moving forward with the left side.

My spider had a spring with it but I needed some kind of structure to anchor the spring to and to hold the canopy switch in position. I made it out of alu scraps:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20151203_180950.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20151204_193041.jpg)

Snapping nicely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMlX0rWNra0

Then is time for some paint work:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20151205_153320.jpg)

And nice little detail. Some time ago I got this button from ebay quite cheap. Is exactly the same model than the F16 slap switch but green:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20151205_104504.jpg)

Just a bit of black spray paint...

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20151206_110932.jpg)

And a sticker....

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20151206_1802331.jpg)

And it would look spot on:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20151206_1818531.jpg)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on December 07, 2015, 04:18:53 PM
Nice work... :thumbsup: ...and I really like that sticker!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: AiRdAncE on December 07, 2015, 05:53:48 PM
Great work there!!  :cheerleader:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on December 08, 2015, 03:09:40 AM
Great job on the spider's mount :thumbsup:

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on December 08, 2015, 04:28:49 PM
Tulkas,

How does the throttle is rotating?
On what kind of axle, bearing etc.

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 08, 2015, 04:52:06 PM
The axis is just a bolt that pass through the opening of the throttle arm. No bearings.

Tulkas,

How does the throttle is rotating?
On what kind of axle, bearing etc.

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on December 08, 2015, 05:11:59 PM
The bolt is smooth and the throttle rotates on it i guess.
don't you have tiny movements between the hole and bolt?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 09, 2015, 01:48:20 AM
Not really. The bolt provided by Rabbit is tight enough so when the friction wheel and the separation plate are on place and pressing the whole thing feels pretty solid.


The bolt is smooth and the throttle rotates on it i guess.
don't you have tiny movements between the hole and bolt?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on December 09, 2015, 11:00:08 AM
Got it thanks. I have penny's ,RIP, throttle. Problem is the ABS plastic is not strong enough. I have to build a new metal one fron scratch :brickwall:

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Catcher on December 09, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
I like the way you work Tulkas :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Sparrow 23 on December 10, 2015, 03:14:58 PM
looking great

I am hoping to do the same with all the aic stuff.. man I need to start looking for all those switches
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on December 10, 2015, 03:26:46 PM
Very very nice progress Tulka  :thumbsup:

Keep the pictures coming  :beer:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 16, 2015, 06:00:52 AM
Thank you for your nice words guys!

Keep the work on the throttle. First a change the pot in the cougar for this one:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/HRS100SSAB090/480-3281-ND/1956411?wt.z_cat_cid=Dxn_US_US2011_Catlinkhttp://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/HRS100SSAB090/480-3281-ND/1956411?wt.z_cat_cid=Dxn_US_US2011_Catlink

Is a 90 degrees HALL pot. The 90 degrees is a nice fitting for the range of movement of the throttle.

Then just an easy soldering job:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151213_200712.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151213_200712.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151213_204310.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151213_204310.jpg.html)

Testing that everything works:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151213_211652_1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151213_211652_1.jpg.html)

Then is time to build the linkage from the throttle to the pot. Not having any RC shop at hand I just when to ebay and found cheap chinese parts, just a servo attachment and some ball joints for a M4 rod:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/390977627811?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281099916425?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I just made some metal parts on my own. Target is to get the same radius of turn from the pot to the ball joint as it is from the pivoting point of the throttle arm to its ball joint and also that the throttle and pot arms move parallel:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151212_202317_1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151212_202317_1.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151213_212908_1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151213_212908_1.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151213_213003.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151213_213003.jpg.html)

Next thing is to actually take a test flight, hopefully in the weekend.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Goofy on December 16, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
Thanks for posting those pics Tulkas!, looks great. I am also rebuilding my throttle using a real throttle arm so will probably be copying you!!  :thumbsup: Keep us posted if it works okay!!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: wralex on December 16, 2015, 06:53:55 AM
Nice job Tulkas! Do you plan to set the cut-off, idle, milspeed, etc? It's what I'm planning so I will bookmark this!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on December 16, 2015, 07:10:49 AM
Do you plan to set the cut-off, idle, milspeed, etc?

What do you mean? Physically they are set by the gates at the throttle rail and in the simulator you set them up very easily in Falcon BMS configuration.

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: wralex on December 16, 2015, 10:05:26 AM
Do you plan to set the cut-off, idle, milspeed, etc?

What do you mean? Physically they are set by the gates at the throttle rail and in the simulator you set them up very easily in Falcon BMS configuration.



Yess it's what I'm asking with BMS (I never do that so it's why my question seems to be "idiot"). I know for the guide rail I get it in my pit but my throttle is not connected so I can't tell how it works. I need a new PC before for the pit. My 13years old PC sucks lol.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 03, 2016, 06:20:53 PM
Well, happy New year to all. I hope everyone had a nice Christmas time and santa, the three wise men (yet to come) or (in my case) julenisse was good to you. I cannot complain, first I could not resist to self-gift these ones, really really nice done RD, thanks for the hard work:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_IMG-20151215-WA0002.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20151215-WA0002.jpg.html)

Then my wife came with a super-gift. I have first to say that in November I had my PPL checkride and I was approved so now I am officially a pilot, then for Christmas I got an aerobatic checkout course, to be done in a CAP10. Looks like I am gonna pull some Gs for real!


(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_IMG-20151224-WA0002.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20151224-WA0002.jpg.html)

And back to the cockpit, the throttle works!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Xj4Mk8ex8

Then it was time to dress up the console, painting and stickers on the wall:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151223_204905.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151223_204905.jpg.html)

To make the stripe that holds the manual canopy lever I just used some hardware from a local store:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151223_192622.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151223_192622.jpg.html)

Then -of course- I could not resist to place all the panels in position, much better stored there than in a box in a locker:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151224_012324.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151224_012324.jpg.html)

Now, finally this is looking like something:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151224_013335.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151224_013335.jpg.html)

I took out all the switches and started to place on the panels to have a better overview of what I am missing:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151230_233538.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151230_233538.jpg.html)

After that I recheck all my lists and went all over the internet hunting for switches, pots, rotaries... lots of parcels coming to me next to weeks!

I did some work on the guards:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20151228_204237.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20151228_204237.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_IMG-20160102-WA0003.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/IMG-20160102-WA0003.jpg.html)

Now I am starting to be where I wanted with the pit:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20160103_203100.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160103_203100.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20160103_200419.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160103_200419.jpg.html)

And family is leaving from thursday to monday so big chances of big progress if some of the parcels arrive.

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on January 03, 2016, 08:21:31 PM
...droool...nice progress... :thumbsup: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: wralex on January 03, 2016, 08:40:19 PM
Very nice Tulkas!
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: tiger-31 on January 04, 2016, 01:08:04 AM
Very nice indeed :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Goofy on January 04, 2016, 03:47:14 AM
Very nice looking.....very inspiring to see!!!....encourages me to get back to work!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Kukki on January 04, 2016, 11:16:07 AM
WOW Tulkas  :thumbsup: that is a pit progress  :vprules:
Very very nice work there mate, it rally looks cool, and man you must be exicted to see things come alive there.

Keep up the great work mate  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on January 04, 2016, 11:30:43 AM
Looking great Tulkas  :thumbsup:
With family members being out a few days, I am sure you are looking for more progress  ;D

I hope your switches arrive in time ...
I know the feeling  :rambling:
- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 11, 2016, 02:32:36 AM
Well, I used the weekend mostly to work on the panels and to add some details.

I got some nice parts from Biohazard, I only had to go to the hardware store and find some screws that matched what I see in pictures:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20160109_144111.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160109_144111.jpg.html)

Had to make some metal support:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20160109_155143.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160109_155143.jpg.html)

And the final result is quite convinving, man I love to add attrezzo  to the cockpit  :)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20160110_103221.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160110_103221.jpg.html)

As I said I keep on filling all the panels as a previous step to wiring. Here is how I place the replica (cast) small switch caps like those on the HUD or EXT. LIGHT: panels. First I thin out the switch bat down to 4-4,5mm diameter with the dremel, then I carv a thread M4 on the bat with a die set. I drill the cap with a 3mm and then I only have to screw on the bat. Very solid:

 (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/th_20160110_1708401.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160110_1708401.jpg.html)

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: tiger-31 on January 11, 2016, 04:03:06 AM
Nice details @Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on January 11, 2016, 06:25:11 AM
Great Tulkas... See the light at the end?  :D
 :thumbsup:
G
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on January 11, 2016, 12:47:59 PM
drooooool  :thumbsup:

Did you get real measurements for that DEFOG handle?
Is there a place where I can find a drawing with dimensions?
Just love that DEFOG handle  :clap:    and I still have to make that handle  :notes:

BTW, I reserved 2 input "lines" in my wiring so that (encoded) I can detect 4 "positions".
MIN - 1/3 - 2/3 - MAX ... I could let a fan run at some speeds (for the sound)  :D  :wacko:

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on January 11, 2016, 05:14:42 PM
Great stuff here... :thumbsup: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 13, 2016, 04:29:46 AM
Did you get real measurements for that DEFOG handle?
Is there a place where I can find a drawing with dimensions?

Hi Henkie. Those that you see are the dimensions from Biohazard replicas. I just wrote them down fast and dirty to go to the hardware store to find the right screws.

I'd very much recomend to get his replica, very nice casting and great price.

Cheers

Tulkas

Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on January 13, 2016, 07:10:43 AM
I agree 100% , Biohazard's casts are fantastic  :thumbsup:  I have his knob set.
I assumed that you made the metal DEFOG lever yourself. It is metal isn't it?
Or is that DEFOG lever also from Biohazard ???
PM sent.

- Henk
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on February 23, 2016, 03:42:06 AM
I agree 100% , Biohazard's casts are fantastic  :thumbsup:  I have his knob set.
I assumed that you made the metal DEFOG lever yourself. It is metal isn't it?
Or is that DEFOG lever also from Biohazard ???
PM sent.

- Henk

Did I ever answer you to this Henkie? If I didn't sorry, life is hectic when you have 3 little kids ::) Yes, the defog lever is made by myself in metal, the dimensions are made up from pictures and the thickness is that of the metal sheet I was using, 3-4mm. So as you can see not very accurate but I can still pass the drawing to you if you have any use for it.


On the pit progress side well, little, as I said life is extremely busy at the moment. I did got time yesterday to test my speedbrake which have been in a box for more than a year. It works beautifully:

http://vid174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160222_200452.mp4

I was hoping that someone here could help me to fine two things, first the 4 small screws that hold the indicator on place, second the female connector that fits:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160222_203506.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160222_203506.jpg.html)

Thanks

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Willy on April 08, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Screws are 2-56.

I'll have to hunt around for that connector part number.

Willy
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: String on April 08, 2016, 05:18:24 PM
Part Number for the connector I used for my Speed Brake indicator - MS3116F10-6S

 :thumbsup:

String
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on April 09, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
Screws are 2-56.

I'll have to hunt around for that connector part number.

Willy

...check...I was just looking for this answer... :notes: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on April 11, 2016, 04:20:31 AM
Part Number for the connector I used for my Speed Brake indicator - MS3116F10-6S

 :thumbsup:

String

Thanks!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on May 02, 2016, 02:26:26 AM
Short but huge update. It took ages to finish the knobs for the left console. Drill, clean, mask, paint, mask again, paint again... everything made patienly in steps not to spoil the final result:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160423_162631.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160423_162631.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160426_202806.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160426_202806.jpg.html)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160501_114532.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160501_114532.jpg.html)

The knob set was purchased long time ago from Avsim and it was quite complete but had a very few mistakes and some missing. Lucky me Biohazard came in at the right moment to fill the gap with superb quality items, and he was fast delivering them!

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160501_120826.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/Tulkas_5Js/media/Cockpit/20160501_120826.jpg.html)

So now this tedious but necessary step is done and I have the looks I wanted of the left side, is time to start to wire the third xkey and bring it to life. It is time to say bye to the keyboard when flying.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: tiger-31 on May 02, 2016, 02:41:20 AM
Very nice Tulkas very nice.  :thumbsup:

I also have the Biohazard set, but keep on finding excuses to postpone the painting...
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Peten on May 02, 2016, 06:16:41 AM
Very good job with painting the knobs

I just ordered Tamiha sprays so I can paint my knobs.
Hope mine will come out as good as yours.

Asi
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: wralex on May 02, 2016, 06:57:16 AM
Very nice job! Your left console is beautiful.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JCook on May 02, 2016, 07:35:49 AM
Very nice work.
Can you share your steps for the knob drilling?
What did you find was the best way to get everything aligned and holding position for drilling?
What collars did you use?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on June 01, 2016, 03:30:45 AM
Very nice work.
Can you share your steps for the knob drilling?
What did you find was the best way to get everything aligned and holding position for drilling?
What collars did you use?

Very sorry for the late answer. Life is hectic and the moment!

You can see a at this post how I drill. My setup is always very basic. I just find the center of the knob and mark it with three lines. Drill starting with 1mm and increasing diameter one at the time until I get the needed diameter. A stand driller is a must for this operation, I don't think is possible with a hand held driller.

Those knobs which have a flat top I just hold them with my hand resting on their top. Those knobs which have a round top I use a flat piece of transparent plastic with a hole on it, put it under the stand driller platform and hold the knob under it pressing up while I drill. Quite uncomfortable but there aer not so many knobs with round top.

I don't use any collar. Evrything is screwed directly to the knob.

I hope this helps.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: JCook on June 01, 2016, 03:39:22 AM
Thanks for the info.
This is the technique I had thought of also. Glad to hear it works.
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: gancio on June 02, 2016, 05:41:22 AM
Very good job Tulkas. This is the step who scare me much. Congrats mate, very good
G
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 23, 2017, 03:10:09 AM
Well, very slowly but not stopping. All the time from my last post I have been patienly wiring my my right console panels to the Xkey and Leo Bodnar's, programming and testing. Now all panels except UHF radio are wired when it comes to inputs.

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160625_223639.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160704_222828.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20160719_150645.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20170107_222805.jpg)

The AUX COMM took some extra process to mod the 0-9 digikeys to X-Y and 0-1

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20161014_210607.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20161014_215148.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20161024_200834.jpg)

Gotta love the X-keys, easy and solid solution:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20161225_124837.jpg)

So things are looking good here:

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20161226_143415.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhF3YUd1r0

The to do list is huge still though. First desig a solid electric scheme for the outputs and cockpit lighting. I want to get it right and safe. The LG box, which is a project on it self and then the skining of the pit. And probably  then I will go back to the front panel and upgrade some items like the FFI and DED.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Red Dog on January 23, 2017, 05:31:41 AM
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/Tulkas_5Js/Cockpit/20161226_143415.jpg)
great stuff Tulkas,
The chart on the seat, is that a self printed chart? I was looking to get my own charts printed and blended like that. Did you outsource it or did you do it on your own?

thanks
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: henkie on January 23, 2017, 06:00:43 AM
Awesome job @Tulkas    :thumbsup:
Indeed, building the pit is one, but all the wiring is another time consuming task  :whistle:
As time is for most of us precious, it is wise to think first then act. "First time right" is a good motto  ;D
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Sparrow 23 on January 23, 2017, 07:54:18 AM
prob missed it but where did u get the throttle arm and guide again?
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: hy-fye1 on January 23, 2017, 09:06:05 AM
Great work! Awesome pit :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Rufus on January 23, 2017, 10:16:08 AM
Fantastic, Tulkas... :hail: !
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 23, 2017, 12:05:19 PM
great stuff Tulkas,
The chart on the seat, is that a self printed chart? I was looking to get my own charts printed and blended like that. Did you outsource it or did you do it on your own?

Thanks RD

Yes, printed at work where I have a big size ploter for architectonic drawings, then I folded It myself and laminate IT with Self adhesive sheet.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Tulkas' simulator - progress
Post by: Tulkas on January 23, 2017, 12:07:05 PM
prob missed it but where did u get the throttle arm and guide again?

Rabbit, forum Melberg. don't know if he is still producing.

Cheers

Tulkas