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Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 22, 2003, 12:42:37 PM
I've heard that here there is the GOTHA of the Cockpit's builders.......
I won't be able to reach your wonderfull levels.... but hope i'll be accepted as another "crazy man" who joined the GREAT VIPERPIT !!!!
Actually i wasn't able yet to begin the hull/shell works.... but have some nice item and every kind of enquire is wellcomed ! .....
Hope to be helpfull for everybody !

Meawhile I Wish you a Merry Xmas and an Happy New Year !

Cheers from the "Nice Country" (Bel Paese)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: dimebug on December 22, 2003, 01:09:19 PM
Welcome, you're at the right place  8)  Now you have no excuse to not start your project
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Infidel on December 22, 2003, 01:15:04 PM
Yes a hearty welcome to you Strale, you are in the best of company :D
Chris
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 22, 2003, 04:56:11 PM
Thanks Dudes for your wellcome !
Title: Strale Project
Post by: falcon24 on December 22, 2003, 04:57:44 PM
Hi Buddy, glad to have you with us, No ego's here, just a bunch of like minded people with the same interests.


Dave
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on December 22, 2003, 05:10:33 PM
Davide,
Welcome to the group.   Lots of good info and people here.  :-)
Jim
Utah
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on December 22, 2003, 07:19:03 PM
Nice intro Strale, welcome aboard and enjoy.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Bricklayer on December 23, 2003, 09:25:09 AM
Welome aboard Strale!
Title: Welcome to VIPERPITS STRALE
Post by: TEAK on January 17, 2004, 04:13:54 PM
Hi Strale,

Good to see you come aboard. I have seen your good stuff on Ebay and know that you are in good company here. Glad to have you here and hope to see your pit and its progress. Also love to know what Viper stuff you have!

Take care,

TEAK

Chris Woodul
Title: Re: Welcome to VIPERPITS STRALE
Post by: Strale on January 17, 2004, 04:24:13 PM
Quote from: "TEAK"
Hi Strale,

Good to see you come aboard. I have seen your good stuff on Ebay and know that you are in good company here. Glad to have you here and hope to see your pit and its progress. Also love to know what Viper stuff you have!

Take care,

TEAK

Chris Woodul

CHRIS ! it's an Honor for me to receive your wellcome..... thanks again.
As for the items on eBay..... well... i had to leave them to find some money for other items..... and whenever i sell an item.... it's something of me that leaves ! .... but ... that's how life goes on !
As for the viper stuff I just updated my site..... as told on the Forum..... You're wellcome !

Davide "Strale"
Title: Strale Project
Post by: TEAK on January 17, 2004, 04:40:24 PM
Hi Strale,

Thanks for your kind words! I know how it feels to let some part go. Every now and then, I have to do the same to get something new. Every part has a story and a need, however that is all part of the fun.
I am going to go look at your site update.- Someday I will have my own site, but, then I dont know how to make a webpage ( much less find the time!) I do get  to show stuff here and on some other webpages.
Nothing is as nice as this forum though, when it comes to a place to network with truely talented folks and find information on how to make these things work or work better.
Im really glad you are here.
_ I think Matt Wietlespach tells me that you are a freind of his too?

Cheers,

Teak
CHRIS WOODUL
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 17, 2004, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: "TEAK"
Hi Strale,

Thanks for your kind words! I know how it feels to let some part go. Every now and then, I have to do the same to get something new. Every part has a story and a need, however that is all part of the fun.
I am going to go look at your site update.- Someday I will have my own site, but, then I dont know how to make a webpage ( much less find the time!) I do get  to show stuff here and on some other webpages.
Nothing is as nice as this forum though, when it comes to a place to network with truely talented folks and find information on how to make these things work or work better.
Im really glad you are here.
_ I think Matt Wietlespach tells me that you are a freind of his too?

Cheers,

Teak
CHRIS WOODUL

Chris..... damn..... i posted a message in a wrong section of the forum...... i'm really a newby ! ...... but should have undestood, with Jim's help, how to post a pic... let's try !
here is a picture i don't know if it has to be put in my web page !

Davide

(http://www.geocities.com/fox_two_64/Parts/Real/tws.jpg)

http://www.geocities.com/fox_two_64/Parts/Real/tws.jpg
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on January 17, 2004, 07:33:00 PM
Davide,
That pic did not show up.

Its probably because you hit ENTER and you put in the link and that second "/img" is on another line.  :-)

Also when you make a post, instead of hitting the SUBMIT button you can press the PREVIEW button.  That lets you see your message as it will apear when you submit it.  Then you can check it everything looks good.

Your link to that pic is OK, as I just checked it.   so more than likely as I mentioned you hit the ENTER button and then press the IMG button for that second time.

If you want to delete that other thread you started in this section, just post a reply in it asking MIKE (Viperpit) to delete that whole thread.  Soooner or later he will see that requestion.   Or you could just PM him.
jim
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on January 17, 2004, 07:50:22 PM
I fixxed the link, but the pic is dead now
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 18, 2004, 09:18:53 AM
Quote from: "Feathers"
Davide,
That pic did not show up.

Its probably because you hit ENTER and you put in the link and that second "/img" is on another line.  :-)

Also when you make a post, instead of hitting the SUBMIT button you can press the PREVIEW button.  That lets you see your message as it will apear when you submit it.  Then you can check it everything looks good.

Your link to that pic is OK, as I just checked it.   so more than likely as I mentioned you hit the ENTER button and then press the IMG button for that second time.

If you want to delete that other thread you started in this section, just post a reply in it asking MIKE (Viperpit) to delete that whole thread.  Soooner or later he will see that requestion.   Or you could just PM him.
jim

Strange..... i didn't hit the enter before hitting the Img/ .... i saw that it was on the lower line.... but i think the link is too long........ will try again .....

Thanks

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on January 18, 2004, 10:25:53 AM
The pic is there, it must be geocities does not allow offsite display, I would sugest photobucket, seems to work fine for Jim. I'll make the link to the pic a url link for now.

edit, you will have to past it into the adress bar to see it.

Mike
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 18, 2004, 10:30:17 AM
Quote from: "Viperpit"
The pic is there, it must be geocities does not allow offsite display, I would sugest photobucket, seems to work fine for Jim. I'll make the link to the pic a url link for now.

Mike

Thanks for your help Mike...... damn...... .geocities helps a lot to make me feel like the last newby ......  :oops:

Davide
Title: Some picture, great (for me) update !
Post by: Strale on February 13, 2004, 04:28:52 PM
Finally i found the way to host picture where viewable ....
Geocities wasn't showing the picture from the links.

Ok..... now back to the topics... only few picture to show main instrument panel actual stage !

The holes of the SMS and REO will be set as follow:
1) Found the first VGA TFT Display and hunting for the second;
2) Will use a Replica Reo and will put behind one tft monitor.... there will be problem for the MFD's buttoms.... but will try to find out a way.
3) Actually didn't find a solution for the left MFD ...... ok.. next step !

Here's the link to some pictures

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010047.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010046.jpg)
 
(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010044.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010048.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010049.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010050.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010051.jpg)


Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on February 13, 2004, 06:50:19 PM
nice pics Strale!
  put the

(http:// at the beginning of the link and )

at the end ,for the pics to show in the thread.

hit edit on the above post and you will see what I changed to make them show up.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on February 13, 2004, 07:04:19 PM
Davide,
Pretty nice looking parts there.
Jim
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on February 13, 2004, 07:49:39 PM
Yeah, I gotta second that.  Those are some sweet parts you got there.  Very sharp looking.

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 14, 2004, 03:08:20 PM
Mike,
thanks for the suggestion..... had a look at the modifications.... will do next time !

Jim and Jay thanks for appreciation..... i'm very proud of this stuff... it took a while but now i can say i reached a good stage .....

Unfortunately the HUD had some damages and the glass is not the original reflective glass...... Hope to find it some days......

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on February 14, 2004, 04:24:19 PM
Yeah, if you ever what to get rid of any of that "junk"  :wink: , let me know.  I'll help you out.  

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 14, 2004, 04:41:53 PM
eh eh eh eh.........  :lol:
too much effort to reach this point ! but i will keep you in consideration if "ran mad" .....

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on February 14, 2004, 06:37:22 PM
I hear you.  I've been working on this almost 3 years.  Stuff just too hard to come by, you jump when you get the chance.  Right now I got more things coming at me than money but for months it was nothing.  Seems like it all comes at once or not at all.

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 15, 2004, 08:20:06 AM
Jay,
i've been working on this project since early 1998 so in April will be 6 years...... and you can thrust me when i say that i made more steps in the lone month of January than in the last three years.....
Sometimes i thought to withdraw.....but now i'm missing only few items so it would be really a sin not going on .........
it will take a while to reach the goal....... but with some luck the "dead line" is getting closer day by day.

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on February 15, 2004, 11:59:12 AM
Keep with it Strale, looking at your collection, you've got some nearly impossilbe to find goodies.  Some of those gauges I have never found for the F-16.  I did have a chance for the ADI about a year ago, but it was $1300 and I just didn't have that kind of cash at the time.

If you do come across something you already have, drop me a line, I probably need it.

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 15, 2004, 03:01:56 PM
I know what you mean and your mood Jay ..... i felt the same while looking at some items that i never thought i would be able to get.
But don't worry ...... items, as a friend of mine is just saying, are out there.... and one a day we'll have what we need.....
Good Luck you all ! .... and if i got something i don't need next time i will make an advise on the forum if it can help.

Davide
Title: ANOTHER COUPLE OF GOOD SHOTS !!!!!!!
Post by: Strale on March 30, 2004, 04:10:50 PM
Guys.....
i want to share with you the picture of the last items i was able -with a lot of difficulties...... and $$$$$-

First Picture is one AUDIO 1 Panel....... i was so lucky to acquire a couple of them...... so this one i'm showing is actually available for TRADE only ......

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/audio_1.jpg)

Then the other pictures are multiple snapshots of the Throttle's FULL ASSY !!!! ..... Damn ...... I'm a lucky bastard ... I Know.... I Know !!!!!
:)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010028.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010027.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010026.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010025.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010024.jpg)

I'M A VERY GLAD PIT's BUILDER ...... LOL
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Nutty on March 30, 2004, 05:10:04 PM
I think the expression I'm looking for here is: "Holy Crap" !!

That's some great gear !! Of course, it's not a patch on my Aimsworth but don't start getting all jealous on me now.

Err ...

Nutty :(
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on March 30, 2004, 07:31:53 PM
Wow. you hit gold, Strale!

NICE
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Blocker on March 30, 2004, 07:36:24 PM
I beleive there is a Falcon pilot sitting in his cockpit wondering where the hell did the crew cheif put the throttle  :lol:

Great pics Strale, and excellent items for your project.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 31, 2004, 07:05:40 AM
Quote from: "Blocker"
I beleive there is a Falcon pilot sitting in his cockpit wondering where the hell did the crew cheif put the throttle  :lol:

Great pics Strale, and excellent items for your project.


Damn Blocker .... You MAKE ME LAUGH as never before !!!! ... i really can't stop laughing...... i figured out that "viper's driver" beginning to shout and scream to his Crew's Chief asking for the Throttle ...... Damn !!! really an awesome picture.....

But ... as if it's quite easy to figure out an American pilot screaming out of his cockpit ... i wasn't able to figure out the same words in Norvegian .... as the Throttle is coming from there !!!! LOL !

Bye and thanks again for the good time i had reading your message !!!!

D.
Title: New Items Incomed ! ..... "Missing list is getting shor
Post by: Strale on May 02, 2004, 06:18:53 AM
Hi Folks !

Here some pictures i want to share with you !

These are some of the last items i received ..... there's something more ... but my batteries diyed during the "photo's service" ......

First Item is a FLIGT CONTROL PANEL

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010038.jpg)

Second Item is a KY58 Early model PANEL

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1111111.jpg)

Will update soon !

D.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 14, 2004, 03:22:24 PM
Well.... not really in topic but would like to share some picture of our Aerobatics Team !

As you surely will know "Frecce Tricolori" are the team with the greatest number of aircraft in the whole world.

You can see even the EF2000 Thyphoon "drived" by our Test Pilot and Astronauts Col. CHELI.

Hope you will enjoy them !

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/AUT_5601.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/AUT_5602.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/AUT_5730.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/AUT_5728.jpg)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/AUT_5707.jpg)

Picture were taken this morning at the Alenia's Facility in Turin.

Cheers All ! .

 8)  had the temptation to get on board of one of those a/c !!! eh eh eh eh
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on June 01, 2004, 08:39:29 AM
Strale your pictures are fantastic.  Thanks for sharing!!!  Your pit parts are great.  Congratulations on aquireing them.  You are aware that it really doesn't have to fly when you're finished aren't you ;)?
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on June 01, 2004, 11:18:51 AM
Strale,

Nice pics!  You know I seen those guys in Ottawa, Canada quite a few years back at an airshow!  And I remember them being crazy!  They put on the most breath taking performance I have ever seen.  Most people rate the Snowbirds as one of the best, but these guys really did some dangerous moves!

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on June 01, 2004, 04:58:05 PM
@ Flareless and Marvin:
Thanks guys for appreciating the picture of the Italian Aerobatic Team : FRECCE TRICOLORI.

For your information the a/c their are flying is an heavy modified MB339A
many parts were removed to lower the overall weight, even if they can restore the aircraft to Combat Readiness in few hours ....
The main modification were made to the surface's controls and to the avionics ..... you can BET that it can be manouvered as a prop while being a Jet ! ....
The same aircraft (in conventional configuration) is actually used to train Military Pilots before taking service in groups and wings.

Our Pilots begin training on the SIAE MARCHETTI SF260 in LATINA B.F.S. -Basic Flight School- (near Rome) (guys .... it's a beauty and "driving" it is really enjoying) here they get the first wings .... then they are sent to the A.F.S. -Andvanced Flying School- where they get Jet cleareances and first Combat Readiness.

Next Step is usually in the USA or in UK to be trained on the Aircraft they will be flying in active duty ! ....

@ Flareless....

Dude ... when i look at my stuff one of my first though is: This Stuff FLYIED once ... and i will make it FLYING AGAIN ! .... Ok ..... virtually .... but it doesn't matter ! ... LOL

Cheers ALL !

D.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on June 02, 2004, 07:22:02 AM
Quote from: "Strale"
Dude ... when i look at my stuff one of my first though is: This Stuff FLYIED once ... and i will make it FLYING AGAIN ! .... Ok ..... virtually .... but it doesn't matter ! ... LOL

(http://members.rogers.com/skydiving/images/smilies/yelrotflmao.gif)  Excellent!
Title: Pilots Looking for aircraft's equipment ! - NEW SHOTS -
Post by: Strale on June 27, 2004, 12:14:47 PM
Folks ....
maybe some pilot is looking for his a/c equipment ! ...
Ok ... let's joke about it .... but it's really unbeliveable that this stuff was declared "scrap" ......

here I'm proud to introduce you .....

The AUX COMM PANEL - LUCKY AND BROKE ! LOL -

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Aux_Comm.jpg)

The TEST PANEL

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Test.jpg)

The REO (but it's a replica used on a Simulator - but really nice looking)

(http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Reo_Replica.jpg)

My Block 52 STICK

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010059.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/My_Stick.jpg)

Look also at the "swap meet" posts .... there's another stick ... if someone is interested in !

Comments as usual wellcomed and appreciated !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: J.A.K. on June 27, 2004, 12:19:48 PM
I said it before. Add a drooling emoticon please?!?!? :shock:

Strale i dont know how, but you did it again :D

J.A.K.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on June 27, 2004, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: "J.A.K."
I said it before. Add a drooling emoticon please?!?!? :shock:

Strale i dont know how, but you did it again :D

J.A.K.

 8) J.A.K. .... don't know how too .....  :oops: let's say that i begun in early 1998 ..... and the contact i had in these years give some resoults today .....
Thanks for appreciating .....
I promised to post some details ... (dimensions ....) but Folks .. this is really not a good period for me !!!!! .... But i don't forget ! ... will do when i will have solved some problems !

Cheers you all
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on June 27, 2004, 09:02:20 PM
Some vrey nice parts Strale, how far are you from all the panels in the cockpit?
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on June 28, 2004, 09:28:03 AM
Davide,

I was just curious?  Are you not putting "A" model stick in your cockpit rather than a late block model stick?

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on June 28, 2004, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: "Marvin"
Davide,

I was just curious?  Are you not putting "A" model stick in your cockpit rather than a late block model stick?

Jody

Well Jody .... the main problem is that i was able to find the main instrument panel only from an A model ..... but was very lucky with the panels... having quite all from the C model .... when i will start the building (still looking for a structurel part) will decide if i will use the original main instrumen or will build a C model in wood ....

Hope to have satisfied your curiosity .....

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on June 28, 2004, 06:47:37 PM
Davide,

IMO I would concentrate on a late C model rather than an A model as Falcon and the soon to come FO model the C model.  You can easily make an accurate looking C instrument panel out of wood or whatever you choose.  It's nice to have the real deal if that is your cup of tea, but you can easily compensate for a fabricated main instrument panel with all those goodies you have!

Jody

Quote from: "Strale"
Quote from: "Marvin"
Davide,

I was just curious?  Are you not putting "A" model stick in your cockpit rather than a late block model stick?

Jody

Well Jody .... the main problem is that i was able to find the main instrument panel only from an A model ..... but was very lucky with the panels... having quite all from the C model .... when i will start the building (still looking for a structurel part) will decide if i will use the original main instrumen or will build a C model in wood ....

Hope to have satisfied your curiosity .....

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Biggles on June 28, 2004, 07:20:52 PM
Anyone ever heard that song by Johnny Cash ?
Its called Cadillac.

It resembles the pit i am building.

Biggles.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on June 29, 2004, 03:14:04 AM
Quote from: "Marvin"
Davide,

IMO I would concentrate on a late C model rather than an A model as Falcon and the soon to come FO model the C model.  You can easily make an accurate looking C instrument panel out of wood or whatever you choose.  It's nice to have the real deal if that is your cup of tea, but you can easily compensate for a fabricated main instrument panel with all those goodies you have!

Jody

Quote from: "Strale"
Quote from: "Marvin"
Davide,

I was just curious?  Are you not putting "A" model stick in your cockpit rather than a late block model stick?

Jody

Well Jody .... the main problem is that i was able to find the main instrument panel only from an A model ..... but was very lucky with the panels... having quite all from the C model .... when i will start the building (still looking for a structurel part) will decide if i will use the original main instrumen or will build a C model in wood ....

Hope to have satisfied your curiosity .....

Cheers

Davide

Jody,
you're right ! and probably this will be what i will do ..... but i'm still a little bit too far from my "building step" .... and i've not lost the hope to find a real block 50's main instrument panel .....
Title: Time to update !!!
Post by: Strale on October 07, 2004, 06:09:36 AM
Ok ....
sometimes my "job" gives back some satisfaction !
I was able to find an original KY58 backlited panel  and .........

this is what i made !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Ky58.jpg)

Ok .. ok ! ... probably knobs are not the same as the real panel .... but saw many of these and always found some differences.

Then i made a DEAL (yep... CAPS LOCK !!!!) with this almost unfoundable item:
Wanna see some drooling faces then !! eh eh eh eh

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010036.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010041.jpg)

Cheers All !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on October 07, 2004, 02:03:26 PM
Very Nice parts Strale, thanks for posting the pics of them, they will be quite a bit of help when I get to making those panels. Also, Jason has a very good Front Console model drawn up that I have built, C -blk 50-52, it might be an avenue for you if you can't find one. I'll post a pic of mine in the comming days into my thread so you can see it.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 07, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
Kabar,

what i don't have is time ... otherwise i would have just uploaded all the dimensions for that stuff .... but ..... as next monday i will begin a new job I really hope to have more time to dedicate to our common passion !!!!!

So really hope to be more helpfull in next months .....

As for the Main Instrument Panel ... DAMN .... you turn a knife into my bleeding enjury ...... If only i could be able to find it !!!!! It's making me mad !!!!!!!

So ... any offer is greately appreciated !!!

Cheers YOU ALL !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on October 07, 2004, 09:33:02 PM
Dude, that ECM is SWEET!!!!  You got an extra?? hehehe

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: bluumax on October 08, 2004, 01:41:34 AM
Man, Those are really great pics of the panels! You sure are one lucky dude!!
 Guys like you make it possible for the rest of us to fake it with at least a bit of accuracy, since we can get a good look at the panels.
I'm glad I didn't start really building my panels until this summer.
 I would think it possible to convert that to a c Block if you really wanted to.
Keep up the great work. Shawn
Title: Thanks !
Post by: Strale on October 08, 2004, 02:34:28 PM
Jay,
...  :D  :D  :D ..... if i could be able to find another one .... damn .... i would be within the happiest men around the world .... you know ... sometimes it happens to be unable to find even a little screw .... then .... you get a "shot of ass" (letteral translation from Italian to English ... well .... it's slang of course and surely not educated ! but it's a good way to "render" an idea....)
But you know that i'm still far from ....but .... "little step ..... little step" (who ever saw the movie "contact" ????) i'm getting nearer !

Now i'm working on a EWS panel   :oops: .. hope to show the job soon !!!!

Shawn .... thanks for the kind word ... but.... you can bet that i'm in the very last place (if i ever entered in....) in the list of the "Guys that make things possible" .... well .... if i had more time and more "bucks" ... maybe i could be of better help ....

Cheers and all the Best to ALL !
Title: Another Nice item: CMDS
Post by: Strale on November 27, 2004, 05:41:27 PM
Dudes,
i've been far for a while ... but here i'm coming back with some nice pictures of one of my last acquired items.

I had the chance to put my hands on a complete CMDS panel .. and .... well ... here it is ! ... It took some time to light up those damned lamps... but something is done. Next more difficult step will be to try to understand how work those "@@##@###" display i found inside !!!!

First picture is how it appears in sun light:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS_lights_2.jpg)

Second picture is how it appears in the dark !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS_lights_1.jpg)

If anyone has some info on the ann. lamps MS90451-7152AS15 i will really appreciate it !

Best Wishes all !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on November 28, 2004, 12:28:24 AM
That looks pretty sweet there Davide.  I had forgotten you had that ECM panel, makes me drool every time I see that.  That suckers rarer then hens teeth.

Jay
Title: Re: Another Nice item: CMDS
Post by: drit on November 28, 2004, 05:29:00 AM
Quote from: "Strale"
If anyone has some info on the ann. lamps MS90451-7152AS15 i will really appreciate it !

http://www.sundialandpanel.com/products/panels/378-18.htm
http://www.oshino-lamps.fr/rubriques/produits/pages%20produits/T-1%20Short%20Wire%20Terminal.htm
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on November 28, 2004, 09:14:23 AM
Great score Davide!  I've never seen those "Go" and "No Go" lamps.  Do you have any details about them or about when they light up?  I don't believe they're represented in the Falcon 4 pit (at least I don't recall seeing them before).

Thanks for the link Drit!  That site is going to be pretty cool once they've finished construction.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on November 28, 2004, 10:22:17 AM
Nice catch Strale!
Title: Re: Another Nice item: CMDS
Post by: Strale on November 28, 2004, 12:08:10 PM
Quote from: "drit"
Quote from: "Strale"
If anyone has some info on the ann. lamps MS90451-7152AS15 i will really appreciate it !

http://www.sundialandpanel.com/products/panels/378-18.htm
http://www.oshino-lamps.fr/rubriques/produits/pages%20produits/T-1%20Short%20Wire%20Terminal.htm

Thanks Drit ... but checked those site yet ... and didn't find the info i need.
In any case thanks again !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: drit on November 28, 2004, 12:19:58 PM
Davide,
What info you looking for ? can you be more specific ?
drit
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 28, 2004, 01:28:44 PM
Quote from: "drit"
Davide,
What info you looking for ? can you be more specific ?
drit

Yep Drit,
i was looking for the pin-out of each display to try to figure out how it works the matrix circuit.

Thanks
Title: Strale Project
Post by: drit on November 28, 2004, 01:42:36 PM
ups, sorry misunderstood you.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 28, 2004, 05:37:58 PM
Quote from: "Flareless"
Great score Davide!  I've never seen those "Go" and "No Go" lamps.  Do you have any details about them or about when they light up?  I don't believe they're represented in the Falcon 4 pit (at least I don't recall seeing them before).

Thanks for the link Drit!  That site is going to be pretty cool once they've finished construction.

Never saw that lamps ? strange LOL .... Falcon 4 has that panel ... or you mean that you never saw the sequence of lighting ?
So.... don't have many details as all the info i searched for the AN/ALE47 didn't gave any resoult.
According to me they should work this way:
Mode in OFF - MWS in OFF - NO GO LAMPS Lighted - Dispence RDY off
Mode in Stdby - MWS in ON - GO LAMPS lighted  - Dispence RDY off
Mode in every position else off and std by - GO lamps lighted an Dispence RDY On
Main problem is:
What are the 01 and 02 switches and indicator for ?
As the Annunciator has 4 display per each section so a total of 16 displays and the wires available are only 20 there might be a "matrix circuit" but even making a lot of combination i was only able to identify each section and to light up all the displays ... It's a MESS ... believe me ! LOL

If someone has the same panel it would be great to share some info.
Title: Stick & Base
Post by: Strale on April 22, 2005, 03:03:35 PM
During last days ... due to a cold that kept me far from office ....
i had time to do something ... well .... not so many things as actually
there are a couple of things that i've to set up before announcing that construction will begin soon !!!!

but meanwhile i played a while with a block 52 stick and a block (maybe 5) base ..... too less informations available on these items ......

So ..... i started with main problem, while checking also the SSC modification thread ..... and thanks to all for the precious informations !!!

The stick have a connector with a lot of pins (counted.. but can't remember right now)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Stick_Conn.jpg)

and the Base has a less populated amphenol connector (518-7001)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Base.jpg)

Now.... what to do ??? changing the connector on the stick or on the base ???

As i don't have many informations about the stick installation i decided to go for replacing the base's connector ... (it is on the way ....... will rewire and install as soon as received)

So .... removing the connector it's not so difficult ... even if i understood what i had to do first asking to a Friend and then opening the device to understand where the cables were running.

1st Step: uninstalling the retention ring:
With a little screwdriver we need to push the retention ring in the place showed with the arrow ..... pay attention.... when it's out his place it will jump around... better to keep it far from eyes ....!!!!

2nd Step: loose the screw indicated by the other red arrow ...... that screw holds and tights a cable retention.... and the cables are the stick's cable that run in connector just in the midde of the connection panel

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/retention_ring.jpg)[/list]

and here how the base was appearing while the connector come out

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010057.jpg)

As the pins of the new connector are more little than the old one ... i decided to go for a straight CUT of all the wires .... in any case they won't have been usable during the rewire's works.....

Ok ..... i still need to place the connector .... but here's how my stick and base actually appears !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010059.jpg)

Some other jobs to do .... but at least for the nice resoult... i'm just happy !

Cheers all
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on April 22, 2005, 03:30:04 PM
whoa, lucky DOG!!! a real SSC!!

very nice, and very nice pics of it for my archive!!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 22, 2005, 03:36:43 PM
Quote from: "Kabar03"
whoa, lucky DOG!!! a real SSC!!

very nice, and very nice pics of it for my archive!!

Hey Dude ... thanks for your appreciation .....

Cheers
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on April 23, 2005, 05:16:40 AM
Strale, you're also doing to need to place a different connector for the output as well (i.e. in the center of the 4 LVDT's output connectors).  I believe the block 50 base has 37 connections in the base of the stick.  Did you manage to find a mate for that connector?  If you did, could you see if you can find a connector for the stick?  Mine was shot and I had to cut it off and solder on wire leads to mine.  I was planning on taking out the connector when I got my SSC and pulling the wires from my stick through the base and then attaching them to the 44 pin connector on the output.  This would prevent me from ever being able to remove the stick from the base without cutting all the wires, but may be the only option I have.

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 23, 2005, 05:45:35 AM
Jay,
need to arrive to that stage to verify it ... but i don't think there's the need to change also that connector...... i mean...... is there really the need to have one pin for each wire ?

For the mating connector of the stick .... well ..... a friend of mine found a mating connector.... I also asked him if there were the chance to find some more as i thing there are more earlier bases around than latest... so probably someone might need that connector too .....
I didn't get still reply about more connectors .. but be sure that if he has more he will send .......
take in consideration that the connector i will receive is not the mating for the base ..... it's a mating for the male connector... so probably there will be the need to modify it ... but who might know ... maybe instead it fits perfectly in the base ..... will keep you updated !!!!!

I don't think that putting the wires direcly to the stick could work ..... for as what i understood the female connector join the tube where the ldvt are placed..... if you don't have something that from the stick goes into the tube i've severe doubt that the SSC will work .... Or am i missing something ?

would be great to exchange some pictures .......

Cheers



Quote from: "Crease-Guard"
Strale, you're also doing to need to place a different connector for the output as well (i.e. in the center of the 4 LVDT's output connectors).  I believe the block 50 base has 37 connections in the base of the stick.  Did you manage to find a mate for that connector?  If you did, could you see if you can find a connector for the stick?  Mine was shot and I had to cut it off and solder on wire leads to mine.  I was planning on taking out the connector when I got my SSC and pulling the wires from my stick through the base and then attaching them to the 44 pin connector on the output.  This would prevent me from ever being able to remove the stick from the base without cutting all the wires, but may be the only option I have.

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: idekkers on April 23, 2005, 08:07:38 AM
isn't this a regular cannon plug (mil spec of course)?

Ido
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 23, 2005, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: "idekkers"
isn't this a regular cannon plug (mil spec of course)?

Ido


Ido,
yes.... you're right .... they're mil-spec cannon plugs ... but the main problem is :
Look at first following picture ... look at the shape of that connector and the CUT that allow the intallation inside the TUBE where the LDVT are installed.
The dimeter of the connector is exactely 2 CM and it fits perfectly inside the base. The height of the connector is 1.4 Cm ... and it should fit inside the male connector on the stick

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Connector_block10.jpg)

Now look at the mating connector that was find for me !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Connector_Block52.jpg)

Of course as i don't have it in my hand i really still don't know if his height from the collar, diameter and total lenght will be ok for the base ..... but
better this than a kick in the ass .... LOL

As you can see the connector was a standard cannon plug without its mounting hardware.

Bye all
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on April 23, 2005, 02:52:22 PM
Hmm....I never thought that the connector played a part in the operation of the stick itself.  I may very well need to replace my sticks connector inorder for my stick to work.

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 23, 2005, 03:06:12 PM
Quote from: "Crease-Guard"
Hmm....I never thought that the connector played a part in the operation of the stick itself.  I may very well need to replace my sticks connector inorder for my stick to work.

Jay

Jay,
that were my thought !!! ...... but looking at the mechanical construction of the base ..... well ... i really would not understand how to let feel the force to the transducers if the stick is not mechanically connected to the base ....

but i may be wrong ..... Any one can give his considerations ????

If you need to replace the connector on the stick ... let me know ..... i'd like to know how to remove it .... didn't find the trick !
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on April 23, 2005, 03:26:18 PM
Well, I got mine out of the stick.  I remember there's a retention ring in there like the base has.  It's been a while since I took mine out.

I figured that when you attached the stick to the base with the retention nut, this was all the physical interface you needed to allow the SSC to function with the LVDT's.  This, however, was an assumption on my part.

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on April 23, 2005, 03:38:11 PM
Here's a picture of the one from the stick base.  I cut this out of my stick because several of the pins were broken.  The notch you see goes on the stick side and that doesn't transmit any force or direction to the base or stick.  It is there, IMHO, to make sure the connector is oriented in the proper position.  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/jfagner/SSC/DCP_5190.jpg)

The part number for this is:

Bendix 9107  10-527235-35p

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: idekkers on April 23, 2005, 03:48:38 PM
since bendix make complete systems ( acording to thier site) the connectors are probably amphenol, so you can try locating it here :
http://www.amphenol-aerospace.com/sl100viewer.asp

amphenol plugs can be found all over the world.


Ido
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 23, 2005, 03:53:13 PM
Quote from: "Crease-Guard"
Well, I got mine out of the stick.  I remember there's a retention ring in there like the base has.  It's been a while since I took mine out.

I figured that when you attached the stick to the base with the retention nut, this was all the physical interface you needed to allow the SSC to function with the LVDT's.  This, however, was an assumption on my part.

Jay

I looked for a retention ring ... but wasn't able to find it .... but i found the retention pin on the lower back of the stick ..... but either removing that pin nothing happens else that the connector is free to turn ..... will try to have a better look !

Well .... dunno Jay ..... my stick doesn't move ... so probably the base is an old block 5 ..... but i tryed to understand how to transmit force to the lvdt.... .... if the stick is attached to the base trough the retention nut ....
is that the only one phisical interface needed ??? but heard that some bases allow the stick to move some inches .....damn ... i'd like to see the top of one of those newer bases .....

Thanks for the reference number for the connector .... is that the PN for the block 52 stick ???
If yes will try to send to my old pale ..... to see if it happens to find some of them !

Cheers
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on April 23, 2005, 03:56:58 PM
Yes, that's the PN for the block 52 stick.  It came from my stick  :wink:

Jay
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 12, 2006, 05:55:35 PM
Ok ...
here another update !

TWP

All lamps wired .... and ... COMMON POSITIVE !

For the guys having a real TWP ... I think it's better to rewire all the assy !!
Pins for the switch are linked to the lamps with a resistor .... i don't know anything about that ... but for sure the switch internally changes the polarity for the lamp's pins ....

The indicator had 5 pins for lamps .... the middle one is the common (so + ) the external are shorted togheter .... the interna too .....

5   4        2    1  
          3

and 6 pins for the switch (usually pin 3 and 6 are shorted)

1        2
3        4
5        6

When i tryed to hook that way some indicator i found that i was able to light up the lamp only giving current to the outer or inner pins ..... then I shorted the right most right with the first pin for lighting with the 2 pin of the switch (with + 12 V) the negative to pin number 6 of the lighting ....
Then it came back all normal !!!!

Pins 2 and 4 are for the switch

here some pictures of the indicators lighted !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/twp4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/twp3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/twp2.jpg)

If someone need more info just ask !
Title: Time To SHOW something !
Post by: Strale on March 19, 2006, 05:24:06 PM
Pls apologize for the slow update on the project .. but time is something that seems i cannot manage anymore !

wish only to show you some pictures of some stuff i never showed before !!!

First of all the DAY when my NEW trainer arrived home !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010058.jpg)

Then the Trainer Parked in my garage !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010064.jpg)

My ACES II Seat (sorry for the tilted picture !!!)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010081.jpg)

And the Right Side of the main instrument panel with Gauge Extension....
I proudly won the right RPM gauge on eBay ... so i'll be able soon to show a complete and correct "engine section" All the Gauges are simulated instruments from Malwin ... and i really hope to be able to drive them with my Epic System !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010101.jpg)

Cheers all

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on March 19, 2006, 08:11:58 PM
Beautiful new toy Davide!  What a great project!  It's amazing how many Airforce class Pit projects we're starting to see on the board.

:beer:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on March 20, 2006, 12:24:30 AM
Wow, looks like that trainer caught on fire!  Hope I do better wiring job on my pit than they did! :D

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: idekkers on March 20, 2006, 05:34:15 AM
great catch davide.

what did the trainer come with? any panels gouges ?

Ido
Title: Strale Project
Post by: HOLLYWOOD on March 20, 2006, 08:24:20 AM
sweet, it looks like your trainer got into a roll over accedent!, i wouldnt mind takin it off your hands though :)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Red Dog on March 20, 2006, 09:42:37 AM
nah, looks like the pilot tried too hard to make a immelman and finished rolling the trainer on the canopy  :lol:

Now if I were to put that in the bedroom, I'd definitely be single  :lol:
great parts Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Armitage on March 20, 2006, 09:58:34 AM
Are you sure that the previous owner's wife didn't just loose it because he was flying too much and she decided to have at him with a rolling pin?  :twisted:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 20, 2006, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: "Flareless"
Beautiful new toy Davide!  What a great project!  It's amazing how many Airforce class Pit projects we're starting to see on the board.

:beer:


Thank Mate .... your words are really motivating ! ....
Hope to show something great soon !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on March 20, 2006, 03:24:06 PM
Naw, it's just realistic battle damage simulation.  You should see the other guy!

Good job making it home in a damaged jet Davide!  :beer:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 20, 2006, 03:31:02 PM
Here some explanations ....

@Jody
Het Mate ... are you gelous ?? eh eh eh .... nope ... the trainer didn't take fire .... (at least since i will place wired panels there ! LOL) ....

@Hollywood & Armitage
Well ... the canopy is not from the trainer ... it's coming from a Belgian Mishap FA-93 in wich the unlucky pilot lost his life ....

@Idekkers
The trainer was almost empty .... i buyed the left and right aux consolle when it was somewhere else ... then i had the chance to put my hands on it .... and with some sacrifice i was able to acquire it !
Actual Stage for all my project is
Missing Parts:
DTU
FUEL QUANTITY INDICATOR
DED & PFD
So the GREAT HUNT for PARTS is almost ended !!!

Cheers All
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 20, 2006, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: "Flareless"
Naw, it's just realistic battle damage simulation.  You should see the other guy!

Good job making it home in a damaged jet Davide!  :beer:



eh eh eh eh ... great Rich ! ....
realized that the Viper is the POWERFUL aircraft being able to fly even with no wings !!! .. eh eh eh eh ....

Cheers
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on March 20, 2006, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: "Strale"


@Jody
Het Mate ... are you gelous ?? eh eh eh .... nope ... the trainer didn't take fire .... (at least since i will place wired panels there ! LOL) ....


What are you serious???  I have the same thing, (that I built with my own hands) except it cost a fraction of the price, and it can easily be moved around.  Nope, trust me... Not JEALOUS!  :wink:

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 21, 2006, 05:03:49 AM
Quote from: "Marvin"
Quote from: "Strale"


@Jody
Het Mate ... are you gelous ?? eh eh eh .... nope ... the trainer didn't take fire .... (at least since i will place wired panels there ! LOL) ....


What are you serious???  I have the same thing, (that I built with my own hands) except it cost a fraction of the price, and it can easily be moved around.  Nope, trust me... Not JEALOUS!  :wink:

Jody



Mate ... was just kidding i've been envious for your pit for a while !!!
Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Armitage on March 27, 2006, 01:45:43 AM
Quote from: "Strale"
@Hollywood & Armitage
Well ... the canopy is not from the trainer ... it's coming from a Belgian Mishap FA-93 in wich the unlucky pilot lost his life ....


 :shock: Ok, let me just remove this size 11 foot from my mouth.  :oops: Didn't mean to be disrespectful.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 31, 2006, 04:33:10 PM
Quote from: "Armitage"
Quote from: "Strale"
@Hollywood & Armitage
Well ... the canopy is not from the trainer ... it's coming from a Belgian Mishap FA-93 in wich the unlucky pilot lost his life ....


 :shock: Ok, let me just remove this size 11 foot from my mouth.  :oops: Didn't mean to be disrespectful.


NP Armitage ....  :)
really NP ! .......
Title: Some Pictures ....
Post by: Strale on April 09, 2006, 12:38:48 PM
Ok .. i'm still not flying ... but damn !
The canopy was unistalled without great trouble ! So i was able to gain full access to the cockpit ....
NOW I CAN BEGIN ....

I spent some hours to check situation and to figure out the work i have to do .... well ... identified and i just begun to do something .. but first i I placed some panels in the side consolle ... and ...... WOW .... this baby begins to looks like a Viper !!!!

Ok .. no more words and let's the pictures talk on my behalf !

From the Front !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/00.jpg)

FROM THE UPPER FRONT
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/000.jpg)

FROM THE BACK LEFT SIDE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/18.jpg)

FROM THE BACK RIGHT SIDE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/17.jpg)

CLOSE UP FROM THE BACK RIGHT SIDE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/1.jpg)

INSIDE FROM ABOVE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/14.jpg)

LEFT SIDE CONSOLLE FROM INSIDE
As you can see the consolle is missing the MPO, JSF and ELEC ... but that's due to the fact that the Trainer was missing some parts .... and they've to be rebuilt ! ... as you can see a Dzus rail with correct lenght is laying nearby ! First Job will be to build two brakets to mount the rail on its position !.... Anti-G panel is not showed as i'm working on the metal backplate
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/12.jpg)

RIGHT SIDE CONSOLLE FROM INSIDE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/8.jpg)

DETAILS OF THE LEFT SIDE CONSOLLE
Just read the NVG label on the ECM Panel  :lol:  ... and it's ORIGINAL !!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/2.jpg)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 09, 2006, 12:53:20 PM
And here some stuff i recently acquired to make easy some jobs ! (or at least I hope so !)

Little Gantry CNC 3 Axis
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/fd_1_b.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/b9_1_b.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/c6_1_b.jpg)

That will be driven by a cabinet with these boards inside:

CNC 3D Step board:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/46_1_b.jpg)

Powered By:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/77_1_b.jpg)

And the computer will be an old P150Mhz but cheap and working ! LOL
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/2c_1_b.jpg)

Cheers All  :rolleyes:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Red Dog on April 09, 2006, 01:39:28 PM
:lol:
Now that's where the expression "rebuiding a F-16 in his garage" came from  :P

A hell of a real part collection Davide  :wink:
Glad you're starting assembling
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on April 09, 2006, 02:12:21 PM
Davide,

Are you going to try and turn this into a C Model, or keep it an A model?

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Wildcat on April 09, 2006, 02:29:34 PM
I love irony. Usually, Jody, you'd think that would be a question someone would ask if the fuselage in question was a plastic model.  Nice pit, Davide!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 09, 2006, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: "Marvin"
Davide,

Are you going to try and turn this into a C Model, or keep it an A model?

Jody


Jody,
probably you didn't realize that the right aux consolle has all the holes filled with metal resin (just to work on the PFD dimension ... but i'll do in a second step) ... and I hope soon (well as soon as i will receive Jason's plan ...) to make the new holes for the C model
You can't see obviously the right MFD's frame as the right aux consolle is slight different from the C model .. and this afternoon (after the Photo service ...) I spend some time on cutting the "extra parts" ....
Waiting for the Center Consolle (hope to receive it soon ...)
So it's DEFINETELY a Block 52 (didn't placed there the new Arc-164 Digital ... will do in a second time !) .....
Sorry I wasn't able to fix the Block 52 HUD !  :lol:   :lol:  .... but will show soon !  :wink:  
Someone Knows WHO i'm thanking for IT ! LOL

Cheers
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on April 09, 2006, 03:05:22 PM
WOOT!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 09, 2006, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: "Kabar03"
WOOT!


Mike .... what does it stand for ? LOL !
Cheers
Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Wildcat on April 09, 2006, 04:13:41 PM
If I may, Mike..... It's from American subculture: a hacker/geek slang called "Leet," I believe, as in Elite.  WOOT stands for We Own (the) Other Team.  Which, with pits like yours representing our own little pit builder subculture, we most certainly do!  :mrgreen:  Then again, WOOT simply means...."HEY, that's fantastic!"  ..when the rest of the "mundane world" uses it.  IrritateZ the hAcKeRz.   8)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 09, 2006, 04:24:20 PM
Quote from: "Wildcat"
If I may, Mike..... It's from American subculture: a hacker/geek slang called "Leet," I believe, as in Elite.  WOOT stands for We Own (the) Other Team.  Which, with pits like yours representing our own little pit builder subculture, we most certainly do!  :mrgreen:  Then again, WOOT simply means...."HEY, that's fantastic!"  ..when the rest of the "mundane world" uses it.  IrritateZ the hAcKeRz.   8)


Eh eh eh eh .... You never end to Learn ! .... Thanks Wildcat .. but .... to be honest i don't think my pitbuilding is an OverCulture .... I saw, i see things made by Talented Pitbuilders .... and let's don't forget what "pit building" means ...... Building a Cockpit .....
You know ... when you have no skills out probably the "ability" to build good relationships with man ... collecting parts is the only way !
If I had time and skills .... i'd like to be as Andre !!!
I keep off my Hat in front of Guys like Him, Mike, Olivier and all the others (sorry if I didn't mention ....) ....
But in any case ... thanks a lot for your appreciation !
Cheers All !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on April 09, 2006, 04:26:10 PM
Fantastic toy you have there Davide!  Great pictures :beer:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on April 09, 2006, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: "Wildcat"
I love irony. Usually, Jody, you'd think that would be a question someone would ask if the fuselage in question was a plastic model.  Nice pit, Davide!


Wildcat,

Care to explain??  I have no idea what you are talking about?  Sounds pretty reasonable to me, considering the simulator was a Block 15 or A model for that matter, and the fact that his let Aux panel is from an A model, and the fact that the last collection of photos Davide sent me he had almost a complete A-model collected with regards to panels and front instrument panel.

So when I saw his panel layout which is that of a C model I was curious whether he was sticking to his roots, or recently changed his mind and is now going the C model route.

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on April 09, 2006, 08:44:45 PM
Davide,

Great job!  I'm sure it will turn out great, good luck!  So you are going US type BLock 52?  I figured being in Europe you might prefer a MLU type?

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Wildcat on April 09, 2006, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: "Marvin"
Quote from: "Wildcat"
I love irony. Usually, Jody, you'd think that would be a question someone would ask if the fuselage in question was a plastic model.  Nice pit, Davide!


Care to explain??  I have no idea what you are talking about?  Sounds pretty reasonable to me, considering the simulator was a Block 15 or A model for that matter, and the fact that his let Aux panel is from an A model, and the fact that the last collection of photos Davide sent me he had almost a complete A-model collected with regards to panels and front instrument panel.

So when I saw his panel layout which is that of a C model I was curious whether he was sticking to his roots, or recently changed his mind and is now going the C model route.


Light humor, Jody.  It would not only be perfectly reasonable to convert the A model pit into a C, it would make complete sense given that Falcon 4 is based on C model variants.

My sense of irony was tweaked when I think of myself as a plastic model builder.  I wouldn't be surprised if many if not all of us were plastic model airplane builders at one time or another.  I still am in spirit, even though the last airplane I finished was for Honeywell back in 1976 - an F-16 that was to be displayed on the table as the guys wrangled out some sort of contract.  Turned out pretty okay.  Now I have a 1/32nd A model sitting in the model building queue, and I need to make it a C!!  Kit conversions are the norm when even thinking about building a kit any more for me.  Build it stock??  No way!  

And what is a cockpit builder?  A guy or gal that decides to scratchbuild their own model airplane.... in 1:1 scale.  :mrgreen:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Killratio on April 09, 2006, 11:07:23 PM
And here was me thinking "Irony" was just an adjective describing something that looked like metal.......well...I learned SOMETHING today!!
 :lol:  :lol:

Great 'pit Davide...and, oh, the KY-58 arrived fine..thanks

Darryl
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on April 09, 2006, 11:18:22 PM
WildCat,

Good enough, I understand you now.  It DOES make sense to build C models for todays F-16 sims, however I know Davide was pretty strong on building an A-model, hence my clarification.

Jody

Quote from: "Wildcat"
Quote from: "Marvin"
Quote from: "Wildcat"
I love irony. Usually, Jody, you'd think that would be a question someone would ask if the fuselage in question was a plastic model.  Nice pit, Davide!


Care to explain??  I have no idea what you are talking about?  Sounds pretty reasonable to me, considering the simulator was a Block 15 or A model for that matter, and the fact that his let Aux panel is from an A model, and the fact that the last collection of photos Davide sent me he had almost a complete A-model collected with regards to panels and front instrument panel.

So when I saw his panel layout which is that of a C model I was curious whether he was sticking to his roots, or recently changed his mind and is now going the C model route.


Light humor, Jody.  It would not only be perfectly reasonable to convert the A model pit into a C, it would make complete sense given that Falcon 4 is based on C model variants.

My sense of irony was tweaked when I think of myself as a plastic model builder.  I wouldn't be surprised if many if not all of us were plastic model airplane builders at one time or another.  I still am in spirit, even though the last airplane I finished was for Honeywell back in 1976 - an F-16 that was to be displayed on the table as the guys wrangled out some sort of contract.  Turned out pretty okay.  Now I have a 1/32nd A model sitting in the model building queue, and I need to make it a C!!  Kit conversions are the norm when even thinking about building a kit any more for me.  Build it stock??  No way!  

And what is a cockpit builder?  A guy or gal that decides to scratchbuild their own model airplane.... in 1:1 scale.  :mrgreen:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 10, 2006, 05:52:36 AM
Well....
the main problem to me was to find the correct main instrument panel for the C model ... so i was at the beginning thinking to build an Hybrid F-16 ... C model's panel layout and A model Instrument panel ... but meanwhile things changed !
Got the two MFDs frames.... and waiting for the Center Consolle....
Being in touch to modify the front glareshield to a C looking type ... so definetely it will be a C model !
As per the MLU or Block 52 ..... i'd rather flying a block 52 ... but probably i will be forced to head to a MLU version due to the "paint" issue .....
Too many greys ... and at the end ... black is black ! LOL

Cheers

Davide
Title: A Sad Story !
Post by: Strale on April 18, 2006, 05:50:08 PM
Hi to all the good fellows in the viperpit's community ....
Today i feel the need to write you about an Old Pale, an Old simulator "lover" .... This old Man ... was My Father.
His name was Giorgio .... and he left us last friday ... and today would have been his birthday .... 75 !

I can remember the days in wich i bought my first ATARI ..... and was flying the simulators from the 80s ..... where the Joystick was a simple stick ... with at one lonely button ...... and in those years ... where i was something more than a child my Father begun to grow his interest in these "games"  Then i left my home to join the Flight Academy ... then the Army, then i married and went to live 70km far from my family ... and he begun to play at the same games (all simualtors !!!)....... then the first PCs arrived ... and after some year (He was still playing with my Atari with a game called X-19 ....)
I gave him the first PC ..... i upgraded it since the last PIII500 and under his Thrustmaster PFCS (first), TALON (then) and Saitek X-45 (last) ran quite all the Flight Simulators from Falcon 3.0, Tornado, FS98, B2B (back to bagdad ... is there anybody that remember it ??), CFS I and II, Apache Longbow and USAF .... sometimes at my home, in my little lan, we flew also Falcon 4.0 ... but it was too difficult for him ... too many things to remember ........ he used to tell me .... but with Props ... damn .. he was good !

He was following also my experience with the Cockpit ..... wasn't able to understand HOW the HELL i was able to find that stuff but he was always asking me about my "hunt" .... and Men .... he was very active in helping me ..... most ot the backplate i had to replace ....were MADE by Him ! .........

Last week I was able to uninstall the Canopy ... i was painting the Pit and we were planning to meet him with my sister at my home for the Easter's dinner ...... he was willing to see the stage of my Pit .....  

But ..... Daddy went to sleep thursday .... and never woke up ......
he will never see my sister's daughter (and she's in final right now !) and ....... damn !

Why i decided to write here .... well ..... he was a simpitter and I was willing to give Him credit for the work he did for me ! .... and i was in the need also to share with MY Friends the sadness I feel ......

Thanks.

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ghost on April 18, 2006, 05:57:42 PM
I'm sorry to hear your father have passed away and I'm sorry for your loss. Good luck and all the support for the coming times ahead of you.

Danny
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Nikolas_A on April 19, 2006, 10:01:14 AM
My condolences, Davide. At least you can take some comfort in the thought that he went peacefully and without suffering.

Nikolas
Title: Strale Project
Post by: a_breytie on April 19, 2006, 11:16:19 AM
Davide my friend,
I know from experience that no words could fix that hole in your life the departure of someone dear leaves behind. All I can say is that our thoughts and prayers are with you and the rest of your family.

Andre SimNut
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on April 19, 2006, 11:29:22 AM
Hi Davide, sorry for your loss.

Along with greiving, I think your father would want you to rejoice that you had the good relations you had together, that is what I would want from my sons when I depart.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on April 19, 2006, 12:16:09 PM
Un abbraccio.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Armitage on April 20, 2006, 02:43:35 AM
Hi Davide,

I'm very sorry to hear about your loss!

Quote from: "Kabar03"
Along with greiving, I think your father would want you to rejoice that you had the good relations you had together, that is what I would want from my sons when I depart.


Hear, hear!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: farenheit03 on April 20, 2006, 11:04:19 AM
No doubt he left a bit of his soul in your cockpit.  Every time you strap in you'll be close to him again.

F
Title: Strale Project
Post by: J.A.K. on April 20, 2006, 02:02:51 PM
My sincere sympathies to you and your family.
Title: so sorry
Post by: Boomer on April 20, 2006, 03:49:23 PM
Davide, so sorry to hear about your loss.  I'll keep you in my prayers.

Boomer
Title: Strale Project
Post by: String2054 on April 21, 2006, 12:23:39 AM
A loved one that has finished their life on earth is not gone, there life has just began. Thoughts and prayers are with you brother.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 22, 2006, 09:56:48 AM
Guys,

i wish to thanks all those that with words and thoughts were beside me in this moment ....

Thanks again !

Davide
Title: Father
Post by: Rayman on April 22, 2006, 05:04:27 PM
Hi Davide, i'm very sorry to here about the loss of your dad. I wish you and your family the strength to cope with this. My prayer and thoughts go to you and your family.

Raymond
Title: Your Loss
Post by: Dunk on April 23, 2006, 12:52:29 AM
I am also very sorry to hear of your fathers passing, mine went home in 99. I will certainly add you to my prayer time Davide.

Your Friend,  The Kneeling Warrior (Robert Dunkelbarger)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 09, 2006, 02:40:34 PM
Ok Guys,
after a while here a little update on my "madness" ....

Finally i received my MAIN INSTRUMENT PANEL ..... and just tryed to put it in place ..... as you can see there are tools and spray cans on the floor ... of course i'm working on it ! LOL !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/1-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/2-1.jpg)

Hope you will enjoy them !

Cheers All !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 09, 2006, 03:23:15 PM
eh eh eh eh ....
just realized that I placed the Instr mode panel up side down ! LOL !
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Nikolas_A on July 09, 2006, 04:20:53 PM
Quote from: "Strale"
eh eh eh eh ....
just realized that I placed the Instr mode panel up side down ! LOL !
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Davide, Italy was on the World Cup final and you where posting on your progress report? You really are mad about your pit!

Nikolas
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 09, 2006, 04:27:50 PM
Quote from: "Charos"
Quote from: "Strale"
eh eh eh eh ....
just realized that I placed the Instr mode panel up side down ! LOL !
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Davide, Italy was on the World Cup final and you where posting on your progress report? You really are mad about your pit!

Nikolas



eh eh eh eh .... Nikolas ......
i uploaded the pictures on photobucket during the rest from the 1st and 2nd turn ...... then prepared the "post" ....... and at the end of the normal times i placed the post .... eh eh eh eh ..

Ok ... we're the World Champions ... but HONOR to France ! ..... this time we were Lucky !

Cheers All !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: DRAKO on July 11, 2006, 09:36:33 AM
Quote from: "Strale"

..... this time we were Lucky !


Sorry Davide, but we were the Best :twisted:

Great how your work is going on :wink:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Mouse on July 15, 2006, 06:31:52 AM
Davide,

As many others here you are doing a great job!!  8)
I really envy you guys for beeing far ahead on us!
Awesome center panel by the way  :D

Jerry
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 15, 2006, 06:39:39 AM
Thanks Jerry !!!
Your words are honey to my ears ! LOL

the center consolle is not original but made from a Society in Germany !
but it's really great ! ....

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on July 15, 2006, 07:41:56 AM
Everything looks great Davide!!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 29, 2006, 02:50:27 PM
OK guys,
some more pictures showing that works are slow... but still going on !!!

Installed the Right Plastic Fairing, the Fore Arm Rest and the "seat" switch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P4.jpg)


RUDDER INSTALLED on the Cockpit's Floor ....
now it begins to seems to "something" LOL

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3.jpg)

Rudders from viewed from the front !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P2.jpg)

Throtte and Throttle's Rail at their Place !!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1.jpg)

Ok ....
And now !!!
WHO'S willing to help me to restore THIS ????

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/SEAT_1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/SEAT_2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/SEAT_3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/SEAT_4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/SEAT_5.jpg)

PM Me if someone is willing to help me !

Cheers All

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on July 29, 2006, 03:39:14 PM
Wow Davide!!  :shock:   That looks great!!

Good luck restoring the seat.  I'm sorry I can't be of any help there.

Beautiful work, thanks for the pics!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 29, 2006, 04:58:35 PM
Thanks Flareless !  :)

there's a lot of way to go .... but one day i'm sure i'll be able to "fly" !  :lol:

As per the seat .. yep ... i know i need a lot of luck ! .... but i'm having some ideas !

First i have to put in place (i need a router's holder) my CNC ..... then i think i could upgrade it with longer endless screws and bars to have a greater gantry ...... probably it won't be so difficult ....
if i might be successfull i think the chance to restore the seat will be higher !!! .... or at least i will build another one !  :lol:  

Some months ago i was thinking to sell it on eBay ..... but then changed my mind ..... or quite !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: HOLLYWOOD on July 31, 2006, 09:12:18 AM
jesus thats a lot of friggin money right there!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on August 01, 2006, 06:57:46 PM
Davide,
hehehehe, man that trainer has travelled a lot.   For those that don't know it used to be mine.   I bought it , then I sold it and that person sold it to Davide.  hehehehe.    

Its an F-16 A model Weapons System Trainer built by Singer Link.   There are only 19 of them left in the world.   The other 20 that were built have been scrapped by the military.   I talked to the Program Manager who is in charge of those things for the military and it made him smile when I told him about it.

When I got it it was actually sitting on another section of frame that made it an additional 3 feet higher.   I had to remove that lower section just to get it on a truck.   I then sold that section for scrap for a whopping total of $7.50.   Steel just doesn't have much of a scrap value.  hehehe.

Its looking good Davide, I'm glad it found a good home.
Jim
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 02, 2006, 04:57:55 PM
Quote from: "Feathers"
Davide,
hehehehe, man that trainer has travelled a lot.   For those that don't know it used to be mine.   I bought it , then I sold it and that person sold it to Davide.  hehehehe.    

Quote

Yep Jim,
it travelled really a lot ! ...



Its an F-16 A model Weapons System Trainer built by Singer Link.   There are only 19 of them left in the world.   The other 20 that were built have been scrapped by the military.  

Quote

So this is the very last Trainer still "living" .... well ... it has really few things from the Old layout .....
Main instrument panel and center consolle were upgraded to a Block 52 looking style, the left auxiliary panel was modified (filling the hole for LE FLAPS indicator) .... and the Right Auxiliary Consolle actually has quite all the holes filled with metal expoxy .....
Today i got some hole saw so as soon as i'll be back from my vacation i will begin to drill the holes for a block 52 looking style !
It would be great if you could find the outer skins ..... but if all the others were scrapped i really have few hope to find a suitable skin for it !



I talked to the Program Manager who is in charge of those things for the military and it made him smile when I told him about it.

Quote

Did you told him all the Tale ??? Damn .. would it be nice to keep in touch with him !



When I got it it was actually sitting on another section of frame that made it an additional 3 feet higher.   I had to remove that lower section just to get it on a truck.   I then sold that section for scrap for a whopping total of $7.50.   Steel just doesn't have much of a scrap value.  hehehe.

Quote

7.50 or 750 ?? ... damn ... if you go to a scrapeyard here in Italy you pay min. 1 Euro each Kg. of stuff you take .....



Its looking good Davide, I'm glad it found a good home.

Quote

Thanks Jim ..... i'm glad too !

Cheers

Davide





Jim
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on August 02, 2006, 11:49:13 PM
Davide,
There were 39 of these trainers made and only 19 of them are still alive, 20 of them have been scrapped.  

Here in the U.S. steel doesn't have very much value unless you have tons and tons of the stuff.
Jim
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Nikolas_A on August 03, 2006, 05:04:42 AM
Also, Davide, you'll find out that if you try to sell them scrap, the prices will be much, much lower.

A friend of mine sells bolts and fasteners. He has tons of obsolete types of fasteners he wanted to sell for scrap. The price was hardly covering the handling costs.

Nikolas
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 03, 2006, 06:58:04 AM
Ok Guys,

so i suggest you to consider to open a "scrap" selling office here in Italy .... eh eh eh eh .....
One day i saw at a JunkYard the Radar Cone of a Tornado ..... and asked for the price ! ..... 250 Euros ! ....
There were some Pylons too ..... also there asked for price ... 300 Euros ....
Think that if you're a "private" you can't cover your handling costs .... but if you try to buy back your own stuff ... you'll find it really pricey !!!

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Nikolas_A on August 03, 2006, 07:18:29 AM
Davide, what I'm trying to say is that they buy low and sell high, everywhere in the world. If you went to the same yard trying to sell a Radar Cone they'd probably offer you 10? or something.

Nikolas
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Iceman_JD on August 05, 2006, 03:39:19 PM
Hi Strale,

My name is John and I live in Glendale, Arizona.  One of the many cities that make up Phoenix.  

I'm new to the ViperPit forum and joined because like everybody else here I was bit by the pit building bug.  I'd like to say your doing a great job on your project from what I can see from you posts and very impressed with you work.

Oh and by the way I'm going on vacation in March 2007 and will be in Italy for a few days and love to see your project in person.  Don't know if I'll be in your area or will have the time but things have a way of working out.  Anyway just wanted to say hello.

Let me know if I can do anything for you.

John
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 19, 2006, 01:05:22 PM
Quote from: "Iceman_JD"
Hi Strale,

My name is John and I live in Glendale, Arizona.  One of the many cities that make up Phoenix.  

I'm new to the ViperPit forum and joined because like everybody else here I was bit by the pit building bug.  I'd like to say your doing a great job on your project from what I can see from you posts and very impressed with you work.

Oh and by the way I'm going on vacation in March 2007 and will be in Italy for a few days and love to see your project in person.  Don't know if I'll be in your area or will have the time but things have a way of working out.  Anyway just wanted to say hello.

Let me know if I can do anything for you.

John


Hi John
thanks for your kind words .....
as per your trip to Italy ... just let me know your stops ... and we'll see if there's the chance to meet .... i will be very glad !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 19, 2006, 05:14:31 PM
Ok guys ... i'm not still .... but obviously things are getting harder day by day .....
These days i finally was able to connect (electronically) my Block 52 Stick to a Block 5 Base .....
Of course the game was not easy ....
First i had to find a suitable connector (37 pins) as i didn't want to connect "flying" cables .... and I MUST thanks the Old Friend MATT .....

Then i had to replace ALL the wires removing the old center connector on the base ... and DAMN you can bet that placing 31 cables in the Base was surely not easy .....
Made a lot of mistakes .... but the experience is growing .......

At the end of the work only ONE button was not responding .... but fortunatly was only due to a not complete insertion of the female pin in the connector ... so it was easily fixed !

Well .... You can bet Guys that checking each function of the stick with the multimeter was really full of Pathos ..... and satisfation was great at the enf of the work ! .......

Some pictures .... ok .. not much to see ... but a NICE SSC & STICK!! LOL

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ssc_3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ssc_2.jpg)

The Original connector (an Ampthenol 7826 M24308/4-12) a 26 pin high density was swapped with a standard DB25 ... (here made another error .... i thought to install the connector from the inside ... but realized too late that I had soldered from the Outside !  :oops:  :oops:  :oops: )....
I don't plan to "rewire" again .... i will live with it ! but as usual next time i will deal with such problems ... i remember my mistakes !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ssc_1.jpg)

Just want to know how I lost about 2 hours this evening ???
The DB25 hold the switches and hats signals .... there are 22 active seginals and one common wire ..... try to figure out preparing 22 little cable's rolls of 5 meters to join the stick to the EPIC on the back of my trainer .... ! DAMN ! ..... that's a lot of time ....  10 made ..... 13 still to make !

But i didn't finish .....

Having a real Stick and SSC lead to other problems ...... How to make it works with a SIM ....

And here comes in help the MKI controller made by Marv de Beque ... (a great friend of me decided to sell it ... and ... i was glad to buy it !) .......

Here a couple of reference's pictures

MKI Front

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/MKI_front.jpg)

MKI Rear

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/MKI_rear.jpg)

Actual Status:
Pitch Cable: Wired
Roll Cable: Wired
Power Cable: 80% Wired ... (still need a couple of informations from Marv)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/marv_controller2.jpg)

and here how the whole assembly looks like

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ssccontroller.jpg)

I hope you enjoyed this post

Cheers All

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 08, 2006, 04:48:33 PM
Ok it's time for another update ! ...
well ... nothing serious out the "stuff" ... but as there was a missing part from the left side consolle .... and Jason Was GREAT with his help  :lol:  :lol:  I had a "dry fit" to feel the pit ! ...... and damn .. It's GREAT !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010013.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010014.jpg)

All Panels FITS perfectly !!!


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010015.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010016.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010018.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010021.jpg)

This is not a "modified" picture .... i tryed to take a snapshot from behind the trainer.... where there's a big hole in a Rib (air cond ?? .. probably .. or place for wires ! ) ... i liked the result ... even if as it was taken during the night ... well .... it's not clear

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010022.jpg)

In this picture you can see the hole i was talking about in the previous picture ... but on the other side ! (with CRU 68 and DTU in place !)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010024.jpg)

Some other snapshots !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010034.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010033.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010031.jpg)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Killn on October 08, 2006, 11:39:50 PM
Davide,

Great pics!  She's gonna be a beauty when she's finished! :beer:  Very nice collection of parts you have there.


Cheers,
Jason
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on October 09, 2006, 08:25:28 AM
Strale,

Very nice work!!!  Looks like you have a USAF setup..  Just curious though, I think you placed the order wrong for the AVTR and ECM panel.  Otherwise that looks like the cats ass!!  Great work!

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on October 09, 2006, 08:32:57 AM
Fantastic Davide!  Using all the real panels give the pit, well, a more "realistic" feeling.  I know it sounds dumb but your pit really looks like the inside of an F-16.  It was really worth the extra effort.  Thanks for sharing the photos and please keep us posted with updates.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: mihi4 on October 09, 2006, 08:47:15 AM
Quote from: "Marvin"
I think you placed the order wrong for the AVTR and ECM panel.

That's the thing when making quick pics ;)
If you look closer, you'll notice the ELEC panel "upside down" :D

great work, Davide!!
That's how an F-16 sim is supposed to look like :)

greetings
michi
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 09, 2006, 09:04:35 AM
Quote from: "Marvin"
Strale,

Very nice work!!!  Looks like you have a USAF setup..  Just curious though, I think you placed the order wrong for the AVTR and ECM panel.  Otherwise that looks like the cats a.s.s!!  Great work!

Jody


Jody,
once you asked me if i was going to build a block 15 or a mlu ..... i replyed ... a Block 52 ... and that's it ! ...
You hit my ass Jody .... indeed i misplaced the AVTR and ECM .... but I also made another GREAT error .... i placed the ELEC upsidedown ! ...
Ok .. was tired and was dark ! ... need to place some other lamps in the garage ! LOL

Thanks for Your kind words on the whole project ! ....
Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 09, 2006, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: "Flareless"
Fantastic Davide!  Using all the real panels give the pit, well, a more "realistic" feeling.  I know it sounds dumb but your pit really looks like the inside of an F-16.  It was really worth the extra effort.  Thanks for sharing the photos and please keep us posted with updates.


@KILLN
Jason.... My PIT has some of Your JOB Inside ..... can we say "Killn Driven"??

@Jody
One thing is still wrong .. the ARC164 is the old type ... i didn't placed there the New one (digital ...) that's still on my "work's table" ....

@Flareless
Thanks .... I love You ! ... eh eh eh eh ... that's the MOST beautifull compliments i ever received .... saying that it's really looks like an F-16 cockpit ... it's not Dumb ! ... LOL ....

I still need to find a GOOD MAN willing to help me for the small glareshields .... I still have the old types .. but in the NEED of the new ones ... fiberglass replica are also OK !

Cheers All

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 09, 2006, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: "mihi4"
Quote from: "Marvin"
I think you placed the order wrong for the AVTR and ECM panel.

That's the thing when making quick pics ;)
If you look closer, you'll notice the ELEC panel "upside down" :D

great work, Davide!!
That's how an F-16 sim is supposed to look like :)

greetings
michi


Mihi ! You were the first to realize .....
Sorry .. but it was late, dark, wife was callong for dinner ...
was tired, a Fire in the City, an earthquake, the Third World War ... the Locustes (eh eh eh eh ..... I'm feeling John Belushi in The Blues Brothers ....)

Cheers
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on October 09, 2006, 09:34:36 AM
Strale,

It's alright brother!!  I would have been anxious to take the photos as well!

Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on October 09, 2006, 12:09:33 PM
Nice pics Davide, many years of part hunting on display!!! Looks like your trainer is comming to life. Do you have a heated space to work on it over the winter?


For the newer guys that read this, Strale is one of the "Go To" guys when your hunting an alusive part down. Must have contacts all over the globe.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 09, 2006, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: Kabar03
Nice pics Davide, many years of part hunting on display!!! Looks like your trainer is comming to life. Do you have a heated space to work on it over the winter?


For the newer guys that read this, Strale is one of the "Go To" guys when your hunting an alusive part down. Must have contacts all over the globe.

Yep Mike ... she's (or he's ... still didn't decide ...) b.t.w. Viper in English is Male ... isn't it ? ... in Italian is Female ! LOL !
It's not heated Mate ... i think i will have to find something .... i was planning to find one of those home air cond with cold and warm .... and make a real air cond .... unfortunately I can't place the canopy on the trainer ... (too low roof ...) otherwise it would have been a good solution !

but surely i have to find a solution for the winter's time !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 19, 2006, 04:32:08 PM
Small but MAJOR UPDATE !!!

Ok Dear Guys ... i must admit that another great step ahead was done this week !
When i've been out from a business trip i found a package laying in my "room" ... and suddendly realized that it has inside the MODIFIED SMALL GLARESHIELDS i was waiting for !
I have to admit that the Job was done really professionally ..... and i'm proud to show you the results ...
Now they have a grey primer paint .... still have to make a couple of holes (IFF/ACK), 2 Module Four functions, Indexers, and 5 module 10 functions ... hope to make them next week and then to apply the more aggressive Black Paint ....

FROM THE FRONT
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/GS2.jpg)

FROM INSIDE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/GS3.jpg)

FROM OUTSIDE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/GS1.jpg)

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on November 19, 2006, 05:08:55 PM
Hey Davide,

Looking good.  It's great when a new milestone is reached in the pit.  I look at milestones as those things that occur which allow us to suddenly leap forward with many modifications after the milestone is crossed.  My next milestone is the cutting of my panels (which I'm hoping will get done this week).  With your new glareshield I'm sure we'll be seeing wonderful things happening to your pit in the weeks to come.  Congratulations!  Your pit is awesome and I expect it to get even better.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 19, 2006, 05:16:21 PM
Rich,
again to THANKS you for your warm and motivating words !
I do really appreciate them !
Yes... it's a milestone .... now it's time to end games and begin to work seriously ... 8 years are flown .... next year the pit Has to be Operational !

Thanks again !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Skorp on November 20, 2006, 07:00:16 AM
Puffffffffffffffffffff

What a piece of work, man...

 :beer:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 26, 2006, 11:19:27 AM
Hey Guys,
really have been unable to refrain to place some pictures about a "dry fit" on the left hand small glareshield.

With some scare i made the extra holes to install the two module four function assy, the IFF/Ack, and the AOA indexer ....

after few minutes ... here's the result !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/1-2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/2-2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/3-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/4-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/5-1.jpg)

Next Step ...... black painting .....
I'm planning to take some rest from the official work ... and going ahead with the project !

Hope you enjoyed the pictures.

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on November 26, 2006, 12:20:42 PM
Wow, awsome Mod work!  Congrats Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 26, 2006, 12:36:29 PM
Quote from: "Kabar03"
Wow, awsome Mod work!  Congrats Davide


Thanks Mike,
but to be honest .... credits for the MOD are to be given to another SKILLED Man .... not me !
Cheers
Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Red Dog on November 26, 2006, 03:35:59 PM
Strale,

A note of warning for the future...
When you'll be wiring those lights, you'll need to be sure that they are isolated from the glareshield.
That is place a sheet of isolant between the light assy and the metal glareshield and use nylon screws for instance to attach the light assy.

Otherwise, the voltage will spead along the glareshield, and the master caution will be wired to the UCC and the Xkey (or any other USB device)
NOT good  :wink:  
Don't ask how I know ... when I pressed my Master caution button, i had the light coming ON  :oops:

So great care will be required there - don't be as stupid as me
 :!:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 26, 2006, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: "Red Dog"
Strale,

A note of warning for the future...
When you'll be wiring those lights, you'll need to be sure that they are isolated from the glareshield.
That is place a sheet of isolant between the light assy and the metal glareshield and use nylon screws for instance to attach the light assy.

Otherwise, the voltage will spead along the glareshield, and the master caution will be wired to the UCC and the Xkey (or any other USB device)
NOT good  :wink:  
Don't ask how I know ... when I pressed my Master caution button, i had the light coming ON  :oops:

So great care will be required there - don't be as stupid as me
 :!:


Thanks Olivier,
i would have shot you a message when wiring up as i read Your post about the lamps ..... but there's still something that i can't understand ....
with my pit i will be in any case forced to use the "metal" as ground ....
that's for all the lamps .... if you isolate the indicators from the structure You should not have such problems .... or i'm wrong ..??
In any case when it will be the "time" i will ask Your suggestions ...
Thanks Mate !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 02, 2006, 06:07:05 PM
Against the usual ... this won't be an up-date on my Sim .. but the Report of Today......

I hope You will enjoy the TALE and the PICTURES .........

I've been involved, during these last two days, in our annual Management Convention at our HeadQoarter in BOLZANO (just few km south of the Austrian Border).
Each convention our CEO is able to spoil us with some surprise .....
Yesterday evening, after the usual Dinner, all the managers (and i mean... all the directors from the CEO to the Branches directors .... around 80 people) were divided in 3 groups ......
We really had no chance to discover our gift !

Ok .. let's go on with the tale !

The 3 groups were reserved some very uncommon activities for the next day:
Group N? 1 - A one hour flight on a small aircraft
Group N? 2 - A 1/2 hour flight on an Hely
Group n? 3 - A Tandem Free Fall Jump from 10.000 feet

DAMN !
Guess where i was going to ???? eh eh eh eh eh

Well i choosed the flight on the small aircraft as i intended it was an aerobatic flight ....  
Today i discovered it was not an aerobatic flight .. but i had a better surprise .....

Today we woke up at 07:00 a.m. at 08:15 we were in the meeting's hall .... we had still a couple of hours dealing with flow charts, diagrams, forecast, budgets and so on ... but .....
at 10:15 we headed to the nearby AIRPORT (LIPB) at
N 46? 27.30' - E 11? 19.50'

This is the FIRST TIME i take my small digital camera with me (in such occasion...) but this time i was very gratefull for my decision !!!!!

I didn't take any pictures of the Aicraft .. but it was a Cessna Skimaster ... probably a 337..... 240Hp.

And here some pictures of the Day !

LINED UP AND READY TO GO
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/lined_up_1.jpg)

SECOND TURN AFTER TAKE OFF- VSI 500Ft/min - Bolzano City is on the right
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/climbing_1.jpg)

OUR HEAD-QUARTER
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/headQ_Fercam.jpg)

FEW MINUTES AND WE ARE HEADING NORTH LEAVING BOLZANO BEHIND US
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Bozen.jpg)

VIPER ONE ONE CLIMBING TO 8 THOUSAND - SPEED IS 80 MPH, VSI SET AT 500Ft/Min - Mainfold Pressure is 22 - Outside temperature is -12?C
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Climbing_2.jpg)


AND NOW SOME PICTURES TAKEN TO THE DOLOMITIES (Eastern Alpes) FROM FL 8 to FL 10 WITH LEVEL AND BANKING FLIGHT

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/reaching_FL10.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Dolomities_from_FL10_1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Dolomities_from_8KF_2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Dolomities_from_8KF.jpg)

BANKING LEFT AT FL 10
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Banking_FL10_1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Banking_FL10.jpg)

BANKING LEFT HARD AND PULLING A COUPLE OF G's
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010063.jpg)

FOR THOSE WHO LOVES MOVIES, HERE WAS FILMED "CLIFFHANGER"

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CliffhangersJPG.jpg)

Meanwhile we were having some good time ... I was also speacking with the Pilot ... telling him my experiences at the Flight Academy, then in the Army with the AL-19 ...... and from this moment since the touch down .... i had my day of Glory when suddenly happened:

Pilot; <<Do you want to take Controls?"
Me: <<No Thanks..... too many years passed>>
Pilot: <<Come on ....>> and keeping off the hands from the joke.....<<It's Your!>>
Me: <<DAMN ... Glad of it !>>

After 22 YEARS i was able again to gain the control of an aircraft for about 20 minutes .....
I took it at FL 10 and gently flew banking here and there till we were in sight of the airport .... i then followed the pilot's instruction for their common approach .... lined up the baby to the runaway at FL 1.5 .... and then.... i left him again the joke !

Well Guys ... i have to admit that I never thought i would have been again able to fly .... also a little bird in real ... but hope you will believe that i found it so natural as i ended to fly the day before !

Last pictures are about the very few last minutes of our flight ..... I forgot to tell that we had also two passangers (two of my collegue ... and damn ..... think you can figure out their tongue out of their mouth ! as quite nobody knew about my past ....... and now they know .............


STALL WARNING
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/stall_warning.jpg)

TOUCH DOWN
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/touch_down.jpg)

LIPB'S TOWER
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/BZ_TowerJPG-1.jpg)

Well ... hope you enjoyed the tale and the pictures of that beautifull Landscape

Cheers ALL
Title: Strale Project
Post by: lowwing_99 on December 02, 2006, 07:16:57 PM
Great pictures, this is the type of flying that I am use to.  Looks like some nice avionics, were to 2 nav/coms Bendix King KX 155's, & the audio pnl a KMA 24.  Looked liked an older ADF, but nice flight instruments.  Keep going up, have some more fun.  Remember some pics.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Killn on December 02, 2006, 09:41:25 PM
Davide,

Beautiful pics buddy, thanks for sharing!!! :beer:


Cheers,
Jason
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Nutty on December 03, 2006, 04:22:05 AM
Great photos Strale - look slike you had a blast ;)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on December 03, 2006, 06:27:55 AM
That's beautiful landscape Davide.  What a great time you must have had!  Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: J.A.K. on December 03, 2006, 08:03:18 AM
OMG Davide,
This summer I drove by that airport at Bolzano when I was heading to Desenzano at Lago di Garda for vacation. In the car I already said that you could make some nice flights there :D
Great story  :supz: ,
Jaap
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on December 03, 2006, 09:09:32 AM
Davide, you sure it wasn't a dream or an adventure you flew in MSFX? LOL!!

You had to be close to heaven! The landscape there looks great! Gret pics
and cool of you to share it!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: thebeev on December 03, 2006, 07:10:46 PM
Great picks strale, Thanks for sharing  :)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: mihi4 on December 04, 2006, 02:41:58 AM
Great report, Strale!!

It reminds me of my 28th birthday, where I got a ride on a small Robin from my girlfriend as bday present. The area she is coming from is just on the "other side" (Austrian part) of the mountains you showed us in these great pics...

Our pilot started the engines, took of and after 5 seconds said "Ok, I'll just make this one turn an then it's yours..." You should have seen my smile *g* (and my girlfriends shocked eyes :D)
At the end, he let me do the first part of the approach, and commented it with a dry "Very good, but we don't want to land on the street there, just pull a little up..." LOL....

Thx again for the great pictures...

greetings
michi
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Rayman on December 04, 2006, 05:09:21 AM
Thanks for sharing the pics Davide, what a fantastic landscape!
Must have been  a great experience.

Raymond
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 07, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
Thanks guys for the nice words ....
yep indeed it was a nice day !!!

Cheers all !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 07, 2006, 01:52:23 PM
Ok ... now let's go for another update !

i had some day of rest from work ... and guess what i did ?? eh eh eh eh worked a while on wiring up stuff .....
I finished to paint the small glareshields ....
i modified the Master Caution assy to work more easier (two wires for lamp and two wires for switch ....)
i modified also the two module four function assy ...( one common and four leads for lights ... the original stuff was unusuable without getting mad .... so i decided to go for the easier way .....)
also opened the IFF/ACK .... checked for switches and lamps ... made the usual common for switches .... and placed a DB9 at the place of the original mil spec connector .... lamps are working .. and i got three more switches available (as in falcon only the ACK switch is emulate !)

Placed also all the lamps ... and tryed a "dry fit" with the left side instrument panel .....

Here some pictures for Your pleasure !

This is the Original picture I took for reference !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Real_Reference.jpg)

And THIS is how my glareshield now looks like
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/g9.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/g7.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/g6.jpg)

Not so bad ... isn't it ??

Ok .. some more pictures to show some details ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/g5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/g4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/g3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/g2.jpg)

if you have a look at the "connectors" probably you will be asking your self what kind of shells are them .... well .....
the little ones are "salvaged" from the PC serial ports that goes behind the computer in those small slots ... they've been a little bit modified as i'm not using flat cables. Then i bought some wide heatshrink tubes ... placed the shells inside and with some heat the game is done .....
i didn't like the standard grey of those shells but i didn't want to paint them in black ... so ... this solution seemed to me the best choice !

Cheers All !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: mihi4 on December 07, 2006, 02:05:39 PM
WOW, great work, Davide!!

That glareshield is a perfect piece of work! Can't wait so see new pics!

greetings
michi
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on December 07, 2006, 03:48:44 PM
Excellent work Davide.  I really like the work you did on the connectors.  Very innovative!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: thebeev on December 08, 2006, 12:10:47 AM
sweeet! Excellent work Strale, top notch  :)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 10, 2006, 03:50:33 PM
Another quick update and some neat pictures ....

today i worked quite hard .... slightly modified the left and right side of the main instrument panel ... as there was not so space to fit the TFT displays ... i had to make some "CUT"
It took 45 dremel's blades to make the two cut ... damn .. have to find a quicker and cheaper solution .....
Then i riveted the leg's protections panels to the instrument panel ...
I will use them to place the VGA boards of the TFT display .....

Then mounted some stuff to see how it looked ... and here's the result !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010024-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010023.jpg)


I didn't mount the HSI as it's lays opened on the desk ! LOL
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010022-1.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010020-1.jpg)

Also lots of wires are shown there ... eh eh eh .. stuff's ready to be interfaced !

Cheers All
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on December 10, 2006, 04:56:32 PM
Hey Davide, looking good!

I used to chew through those Dremel cutting disks too then Hack told me to try their heavy duty disks.  Since I've switched to the heavier disk I've broken only 2 whereas before I would have broken dozens.  If you're not already using them, give them a try.

:beer:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on December 10, 2006, 05:04:37 PM
Nice!!
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 10, 2006, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: "Flareless"
Hey Davide, looking good!

I used to chew through those Dremel cutting disks too then Hack told me to try their heavy duty disks.  Since I've switched to the heavier disk I've broken only 2 whereas before I would have broken dozens.  If you're not already using them, give them a try.

:beer:


Heavy duty ?? any more info available ?? I asked to the local retailer but he gave me only the standard .....
thanks

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on December 11, 2006, 07:08:15 AM
Quote from: "Strale"
Quote from: "Flareless"
Hey Davide, looking good!

I used to chew through those Dremel cutting disks too then Hack told me to try their heavy duty disks.  Since I've switched to the heavier disk I've broken only 2 whereas before I would have broken dozens.  If you're not already using them, give them a try.

:beer:


Heavy duty ?? any more info available ?? I asked to the local retailer but he gave me only the standard .....
thanks

Davide


I'm at the office now but I'll get the part number when I get home (unless someone can beat me to it).  They resemble the standard cutting disks but they're a bit larger, have a more gritty surface and are much harder.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on December 11, 2006, 01:13:03 PM
I think you are refering to the fiberglass reinforced disk? Yes, they do hold up much better than the small brittle ones.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on December 12, 2006, 09:04:23 PM
Sorry for the delay Davide.  The part is the #426 Dremel Reinforced Cut-off Wheel.  These babies will cut and cut without splitting (at least for a long while).
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 17, 2006, 08:22:24 AM
Thanks Mate,
will check for Those !
Thanks again

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 17, 2006, 05:10:30 PM
Guys,
today Jay helped me to take back to life an IP-1310/ALR.

I was following them ... and when read his message I suddenly dropped him a message ..... i was second on the list... but as we have the same display ... was quite easy for him giving me the right instructions .....

FIRST TEST:
Having the indicator display a single centered green DOT !
SUCCESFULL
(sorry for the blurry images .... the beam is clear and crisp... only a camera's problem)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010029.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010032-1.jpg)

SECOND TEST (as soon as possible)
Cheching that the internal coils are deflecting correctly !

Hope You all enjoyed the pictures !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: jethomasjr on December 17, 2006, 08:23:27 PM
I'm jealous. Excellent work on the small glareshields. How do I get a set made?


Jack
Title: Your Pit Pics
Post by: Dunk on December 18, 2006, 12:33:29 AM
Davide,
I love your Thread.
I capture all of your pictures as quick as you post them.
They are so good (clear and Crisp) and your pit looks so accurate too.
Your Thread is a good reference for what I want my pit to look like.
I am thankful for you and your dedication to post here.

Thank you for the well wishes too.

Dunk
Title: Strale Project
Post by: LeoL on December 18, 2006, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: "Strale"
FIRST TEST:
Having the indicator display a single centered green DOT !


All hail the god of the ?focused green dot? that has granted you this privilege! (http://www.betainnovations.com/temp/notworthy.gif)

Congrats!  :beer:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on December 19, 2006, 02:47:52 AM
You know Strale...  I have always said that you are crazy for spending all that money and time trying to build a 100% real cockpit.  But I can really see that your dedication and money has paid off!

Great work
Jody
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 19, 2006, 05:16:36 AM
Quote from: "LeoL"
Quote from: "Strale"
FIRST TEST:
Having the indicator display a single centered green DOT !


All hail the god of the ?focused green dot? that has granted you this privilege! (http://www.betainnovations.com/temp/notworthy.gif)

Congrats!  :beer:


Great to have Your post on my thread !
My Hat is OFF in front of YOU ..... your dedication to Our World lead us to such big step ahead !
Without You, Mike and Jay these things would have been stopped to Our Dreams (or Nightmares) ......
Please keep Your work going on ... next step will be being able to drive complex assy as the ADI and HSI ......

Thanks LEO.

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 19, 2006, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: "Marvin"
You know Strale...  I have always said that you are crazy for spending all that money and time trying to build a 100% real cockpit.  But I can really see that your dedication and money has paid off!

Great work
Jody


 :D Thanks Jody !

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: String2054 on December 28, 2006, 01:35:25 AM
Good stuff Strale,
You may want to check out this WEB site if you have not seen it yet.

Mikes Flight Deck
:idea: http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/rwr_project.htm  :idea:
Title: The Big Guys
Post by: Dunk on December 29, 2006, 12:34:44 AM
And The Big Guys at I/ITSEC count us as just small fries.
I gotta strange feeling that Viper Pit is one org. that will soon have the respect of of alot of so called BIG FRIES.
Nice stuff Davide, and Jay and Mike too.
Title: Re: The Big Guys
Post by: Strale on December 29, 2006, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: "Kneeling Warrior"
And The Big Guys at I/ITSEC count us as just small fries.
I gotta strange feeling that Viper Pit is one org. that will soon have the respect of of alot of so called BIG FRIES.
Nice stuff Davide, and Jay and Mike too.



Thanks Mate,
i think the same .... in any case .. just to make some clearification ...
All what You saw about my RWR couldn't HAPPEN without Mike, Jay and Leo !!!
Jay is giving me some help to check that my RWR is working fine ... but ... you know .... i'm a Dumb in electronics ..... and I posted those pictures only why Jay asked me to make a report on my thread ... (two chances ... or Jay is too Shy !! eh eh eh ... or he's working really hard that he has not time to show HIS progress !)
Mike and Jay worked hard on the indicator ..... develloping tests boards .. and studying How the hell is done that thing ..... Leo gave support with his Electronflux ..... now there are a couple of issues that have to be solved ... and then i think that there will be the need of someone that can "write" a software from "electronflux" to the Indicator .....

Hey Jay .... if something is wrong ... please write on me !

In any case ... my thinking is that I'm one of those lucky bastard having a real RWR ..... and DAMN ... i want see it WORKING ... LOL !

Cheers You all !

Davide
Title: Re: The Big Guys
Post by: Nikolas_A on December 29, 2006, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: "Strale"
my thinking is that I'm one of those lucky bastard having a real RWR .....


You said it ...  :lol:

Nikolas
Title: Re: The Big Guys
Post by: Strale on December 29, 2006, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: "Charos"
Quote from: "Strale"
my thinking is that I'm one of those lucky bastard having a real RWR .....


You said it ...  :lol:

Nikolas


eh eh eh eh eh ....  8)  ,,,,,
cheers
Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on December 29, 2006, 11:53:20 PM
Did you not get my email reply back?  

Anyways, you need to use the second 5v supply and you CANNOT hook the ground of this one to the other grounds.  Supply the grn and 5v to the pins like I described.  You cannot use the 5v supply you are already using.

Jay
Title: Re: The Big Guys
Post by: LeoL on December 30, 2006, 12:06:01 AM
Quote from: "Strale"
... and then i think that there will be the need of someone that can "write" a software from "electronflux" to the Indicator .....


Actually that part is already done. The F4IM interface software can currently drive the EFlux for the RWR from most flavors of Falcon. Jay posted a youtube video of his RWR in action and I have one posted here using your standard garden variety oscilloscope.

Mine is an older test video:
http://www.betainnovations.com/temp/f4af_rwr.mov

Jay's (you'll need to tilt your head 45 deg CW to view it  :P)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKg11SHZZ5A

Still some glitches to iron out, but we'll eventually get there. Anyone wanna sell me a used IP-1310/ALR cheap? Didn't think so... :cry:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 30, 2006, 06:57:35 AM
Quote from: "Crease-Guard"
Did you not get my email reply back?  

Anyways, you need to use the second 5v supply and you CANNOT hook the ground of this one to the other grounds.  Supply the grn and 5v to the pins like I described.  You cannot use the 5v supply you are already using.

Jay


Nope Jay .....
in fact was waiting for it ... but didn't get it ! ....
ok... now got the info i needed and will perform next tests !
Thanks

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: AiRdAncE on December 30, 2006, 06:09:21 PM
Strale,

Just wanted to let you know that your thread is one of the few I check at a daily basis. Completely flabbergasted by what you're doing - I consider myself a total hero when I get a stepper motor running on a IOCards interface, so what you're doing is godlike to me ;)

Good work, I'm keeping an eye on you  8)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 30, 2006, 06:18:12 PM
Quote from: "AiRdAncE"
Strale,

Just wanted to let you know that your thread is one of the few I check at a daily basis. Completely flabbergasted by what you're doing - I consider myself a total hero when I get a stepper motor running on a IOCards interface, so what you're doing is godlike to me ;)

Good work, I'm keeping an eye on you  8)


Thanks AiRdAncE ......
your words are really motivating .....
You know ... i'm not Shy .. but have to admit that my ONLY luck was to hold good relations with lots of people... and this helped me in founding all the parts i need .....
Heroes are people like the Two MIkes ... Jay, Sharknoir, and all the other guys MAKING something that can be touched for the community ! ....
I can only take pictures and follow instructions on how to do things .....
this is the Truth ! ......
but of course I'm really proud of what i have and the info i can share within the community !

Thanks again

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: AiRdAncE on December 30, 2006, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: "Strale"
Quote from: "AiRdAncE"
Strale,

Just wanted to let you know that your thread is one of the few I check at a daily basis. Completely flabbergasted by what you're doing - I consider myself a total hero when I get a stepper motor running on a IOCards interface, so what you're doing is godlike to me ;)

Good work, I'm keeping an eye on you  8)


Thanks AiRdAncE ......
your words are really motivating .....
You know ... i'm not Shy .. but have to admit that my ONLY luck was to hold good relations with lots of people... and this helped me in founding all the parts i need .....
Heroes are people like the Two MIkes ... Jay, Sharknoir, and all the other guys MAKING something that can be touched for the community ! ....
I can only take pictures and follow instructions on how to do things .....
this is the Truth ! ......
but of course I'm really proud of what i have and the info i can share within the community !

Thanks again

Davide


Isn't this a warm and fuzzy moment we're having ?!  :lol:
Title: ACES II WORKS
Post by: Strale on March 25, 2007, 03:35:20 PM
Ok Guys and Gals (hmmmm any gals out there ?? eh eh eh)

I finally begun to make some works on the beautifull Kit "he-who-must-not-be-named" provided me (well ... won on Ebay .... LOL)
I had to make some modifications to the kit due the fact that it seems i got the 3rd generation seat instead the 4th ...


First modification was on the left side of the seat.
I placed some putty to mask the holes that are not present in the real Seat. I also decided to mask the engraved "ACES II" as you can see.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250228.jpg)

Then I worked on some details on the right side of the SEAT:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250224.jpg)

Adding the hose holder and the quick disconnect support, the lower seat rest and the upper metal piece that goes under first wheel

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250225.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250226.jpg)


I've been also forced to modify the left side to allow the mounting of a real arming lever.
The Kit came with these two parts

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/large_1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/large.jpg)

and mounted the result was this and as you can see the arming lever doesn't lay perfectly on the seat's ear !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/72428607.jpg)


Here my modified parts.
The Hole of the Arming Handle was modified making it nearer the seat's ear.
Finding the solution to have the lever armed with a spring and pivoting was really amazing ! some recessions were made to accomodate a small momentary pushbutton.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250220.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250221.jpg)

Also some additional sanding was made on the ears

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250222.jpg)

Here a detail of the "moved ahead" mounting hole for the arming lever

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250223.jpg)

Pushbutton Mounted !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250219.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250236.jpg)

Detail of the Spring Holder. Who KNOWS what's that ???
The ingegnery is very simple and works like a charm !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250216.jpg)

Here the picture of the arming handle with the custom built Rod and the very hard spring !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250230.jpg)

L@@K NOW the Handle LAYS perfectly on the Ear !!!! I was very please by my unknown skills !!! eh eh eh

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250237.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250235.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250234.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250233.jpg)

Sorry for the blurry image ! I was too near !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250232.jpg)

To mount the arming handle were used some special screws used in fornitures
i don't know how they're called in english so here what i'm talking about.
I still need to "cut" a little bit the screw to allow a Tighten condition

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250229.jpg)

another shot from above

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P3250231.jpg)

And this is all for now !
Unfortunately i don't have too much time to dedicate at the building .. so as usual i'm SLOW !

Cheers ALL

Davide
Title: Re: ACES II WORKS
Post by: AiRdAncE on March 25, 2007, 04:43:41 PM
Quote from: "Strale"

Detail of the Spring Holder. Who KNOWS what's that ???
The ingegnery is very simple and works like a charm !


Well.... looks to me like the tin of a really good cigar ;)

(http://www.myemoticons.com/categories/badboys/www_MyEmoticons_com__smoke.gif)

Nice work there buddy :D
Title: Re: ACES II WORKS
Post by: Strale on March 25, 2007, 04:50:31 PM
Quote from: "AiRdAncE"
Quote from: "Strale"

Detail of the Spring Holder. Who KNOWS what's that ???
The ingegnery is very simple and works like a charm !


Well.... looks to me like the tin of a really good cigar ;)

(http://www.myemoticons.com/categories/badboys/www_MyEmoticons_com__smoke.gif)

Nice work there buddy :D


So you're a smoker too ! ...
Got it mate ! ... i was looking for something like that .. then, while moving around saw it ..... usually i trow them in the trash can after use ... but damn .. it's working great ! LOL

Thanks

Davide
Title: Re: ACES II WORKS
Post by: AiRdAncE on March 25, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: "Strale"

So you're a smoker too ! ...


Hmmzzzz.. nope... I quit 5 months ago as soon as the wife was pregnant... I'ld love to light one right now though ;)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Mavrck on June 12, 2007, 10:45:19 AM
Strale were did you get your glareshield from?  I can't find one for for the life of me.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: thebeev on June 13, 2007, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: "Mavrck"
Strale were did you get your glareshield from?  I can find on for for the life of me.


Dunk(kneeling warrior) is making good quality glare shields have you talked to him about getting one?
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on June 13, 2007, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: "Mavrck"
Strale were did you get your glareshield from?  I can find on for for the life of me.


Mavrck,

My glareshields are standard block 15 modified to the block 52 layout !
if you were meaning that ....
otherwise if you were talking about where to find even unmodified glareshields ... check Erwin sales page ! You'll find a couple of block 30

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: AiRdAncE on June 13, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: "Strale"
Quote from: "Mavrck"
Strale were did you get your glareshield from?  I can find on for for the life of me.


Mavrck,

My glareshields are standard block 15 modified to the block 52 layout !
if you were meaning that ....
otherwise if you were talking about where to find even unmodified glareshields ... check Erwin sales page ! You'll find a couple of block 30

Cheers

Davide


Good to see that you're alive ;)
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Leech on June 13, 2007, 05:12:58 PM
Quote from: "Strale"
check Erwin sales page ! You'll find a couple of block 30


They're mine I tell you.... mine :twisted:


 :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: AiRdAncE on June 13, 2007, 05:32:42 PM
Quote from: "Leech"
Quote from: "Strale"
check Erwin sales page ! You'll find a couple of block 30


They're mine I tell you.... mine :twisted:


 :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:


I'm soo glad you're on one of the outbacks of Holland... let's hope they keep you there... you're dangerous, my friend... dangerous I tell you ! :P
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Mavrck on June 13, 2007, 09:39:33 PM
Noticed my english was a bit crappy.  Thats what I get for drinking and typing.  LOL.
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on June 14, 2007, 01:24:46 AM
Quote from: "Mavrck"
Noticed my english was a bit crappy.  Thats what I get for drinking and typing.  LOL.


Dinking and Tieping - alwaize a grate combo :D  :beer:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: AiRdAncE on June 14, 2007, 01:35:03 AM
Quote from: "Flareless"

Dinking and Tieping - alwaize a grate combo :D  :beer:


Just wanted to let you guys now that thanks to Flareless here I am running late for work - I wet me paints and have to go change now...  :shock:
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Flareless on June 14, 2007, 01:46:31 AM
Quote from: "AiRdAncE"
Quote from: "Flareless"

I wet me paints and have to go change now...  :shock:


ROTFLMAO - Sorry to slow you down :D
Title: Strale Project
Post by: lightning on June 14, 2007, 02:57:23 AM
Quote from: "AiRdAncE"
Just wanted to let you guys now that thanks to Flareless here I am running late for work - I wet me paints and have to go change now...  :shock:


Aww...what's the matter, AD?  Forgot your "piddle pack"?
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on June 14, 2007, 04:34:37 AM
Quote from: "Leech"
Quote from: "Strale"
check Erwin sales page ! You'll find a couple of block 30


They're mine I tell you.... mine :twisted:


 :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:



eh eh eh eh
strange nobody came out telling:
the higher bid win ! or "placing a bid or an offer on a item doesn't give you privilege any privilege on it" ......

Leech .... i don't need them ! but can't assure that some other guy will try to get them !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Strale Project
Post by: Leech on June 14, 2007, 04:57:29 AM
Hehehe, I know. And I don't mind anybody else bidding. Ofcourse I really want these bad, but I also know others might aswel. It's all in the game.

I hope everybody noticed the multiple wink's, to indicate I wasn't serious. :D

Now, if Erwin listed real MFD's......that would be different.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 14, 2007, 06:22:56 AM

Hi Guys,
during my holiday's time I had the chance to make a visit at the home of the 23? Italian Fighter Wing "Veltri" at CERVIA AFB.

And I'd like to thanks all the personell we kept in touch for their kindness and curtesy.

The 23? F/W left the old F-104 (aKa Spillone) in late 2003 and firsts F-16 arrived on November same year.

but let's some pictures talk on my behalf !

GATE GUARDIANS:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080651.jpg)

SUDDENLY when we reached (i was with my son) the flight line two AMX
passed on the runaway
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080653.jpg)

A TWO SHIP formation was preparring to take off.
N#1 was flown by Col. Mauro G. - If you're reading ... CIAO Mauro ! -
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080656.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080657.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080658.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080660.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080661.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080662.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080664.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080665.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080667.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080669.jpg)

IN THE SAME MOMENT THE EUROFIGHTER joined us from the SKY. I was told from a Crew Chief that one of the Pilots was practising on it and came to say "hallo" to his buddies !
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080677.jpg)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080678.jpg)

I do LOVE the F-16 .. but that baby is really awesome !

READY FOR TAKE OFF
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080681.jpg)

FULL AFTERBURNER !!!!!!
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080690.jpg)

THEN INSIDE THE HANGAR
A B Model being setted up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080719.jpg)

WORKS ON AN A MODEL
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080716.jpg)

AND ANOTHER ONE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080712.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080711.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080708.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080707.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080731.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080732.jpg)

HEY JIM !!! I TOOK THIS ONE FOR YOU !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P8080724.jpg)


I hope you enjoyed these pictures (i can't place all those I took there)
as i enjoyed the visit !

A great thanks to the 5? Stormo and the 23? Gruppo

Cheers All !

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: thebeev on August 14, 2007, 04:21:47 PM
great pictures strale, thanks for sharing  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 14, 2007, 06:25:52 PM
After the Report on the AFB visit  :reading:
it's time to talk about my Viper !  :wacko:

Ok ... here's what i'm working just in these days !

I was planning to dim lamps in the pit:
Side Consolle (5 on the right and 3 on the left);
Flood lights: located one under the left side front glareshield hood, the second below the center small glareshield and the third placed on the right side of the HUD block;
Instruments lights (Leo's gauges and then.... we'll see for the others ...)
Mal & Indicator lights (and for indicator lights i mean ALL the indicators ....)

so i choosed to head to a PWM board sold by FLIGHT DATA SYSTEM
www.fdatasystems.com (http://www.fdatasystems.com)
the board is the LC-40 http://www.fdatasystems.com/LC_40.htm (http://www.fdatasystems.com/LC_40.htm)
It has 4 indipendents Channels and it can work at 12Vdc or 28Vdc :thumbsup:

So first of all i choosed to uninstall all the real pots located in the Lighting Panel ...  :( :'( (some tears were dropping but ... no chance actually i'd rather to avoid with 115VAC@400Hz) ... and in any case as i won't part that stuff ... there's always the time to come back !  ;)

here how the job turned out:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010005.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010004.jpg)

I had some doubts as the LC-40 was having only one GROUND connector .... so i was a little bit scared to burn out something ...  :-[
The Assistance of the Guys at Flight Data System is great !!! and solved all the issues !  :thumbsup:

here's a quick draw to explain how it will work !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/wiring_2.jpg)

This afternoon i also mounted some goodies in the pit  :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw:
The Right Sidewall Panel (with the Five Lamps Holder)
The Wirst and Arm Rests
The Back part of the Left Sidewall Panel (with the Three Lamps Holder)
and the Emergency Canopy Jettison Handle - for that handle i will only add a spring but nothing else is actually forecasted.

Just also installed one of the two 28Vdc suppliers and tryed to light up some lamps !
Damn .... the result is far beyond my expectation. :excited:

Hope to be able to share some more picture tomorrow !

Cheers all

Davide



Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 15, 2007, 02:23:30 PM
AND IT WORKS !!!!!  :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw:

all the history is in the previous thread... so here are the pictures !

WIRING #1
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010021-3.jpg)

WIRING #2
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010015-2.jpg)

DRY FIT OF THE EXTERNAL SUPPLIER with derivation
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010024-3.jpg)

THE OPPOSITE SIDE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010017-1.jpg)

RIGHT SIDEWALL PANEL LIGHTED - PICTURE WITH FLASH
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010011.jpg)

THE SAME BUT WITHOUT FLASH
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010012.jpg)

LEFT WITH FLASH
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010018-2.jpg)

SAME BUT WITHOUT FLASH
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010019-2.jpg)

The Dimming is really awesome but it's working reverse ! LOL ! ... just a little detail i made a mistake while wiring the pots and so need to wire them again ...

Hope you will enjoy them.

Davide






Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: bnepethomas on August 15, 2007, 06:33:31 PM
Nice work, excellent job on the wiring.  Have you explored driving 5V bulbs with the LC40 at all?  Been scratching my head as to whether the MFD 5V bulbs should be dimmed or not.

Cheers

Peter
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 15, 2007, 06:55:37 PM
Nice work, excellent job on the wiring.  Have you explored driving 5V bulbs with the LC40 at all?  Been scratching my head as to whether the MFD 5V bulbs should be dimmed or not.

Cheers

Peter

Thanks Peter,
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps ... all the Backlited Panels run at 5Vdc and the only chance to have a uniform lighting seems to be PWM .......
I'm thinking at a couple of solution:
- The easier would be to find a 24Vdc to 5Vdc converter and using one of the 28Vdc dimmable channels to drive the converter: one possible trouble might be that the converter NEED in any case a certain value of voltages to convert in 5Vdc ... and at this moment i dind'f find any reply to this matter !
- The second way would be to find or build a 5Vdc PWM  and hooking it to a normal supplier (i.e. computer's supplier for example) but also here i do have lots of boubts on the resistors values and kind of timer IC.

As per the MFD's dimming .... opppssss ..... i didn't take them in consideration yet ... but probably they will be as they will be hoocked to the same power circuit of all the other panels.

Any help will be appreciated !

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Icy Knight on August 15, 2007, 10:02:18 PM
Quote
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: bnepethomas on August 16, 2007, 02:44:58 AM
I've been looking a having them on all the time or using the power available flag in shared memory (hopefully it is there).  I was looking at using a multi-ganged pot for controlling the dimming. The tricky bit is finding a 5V dimmer, at 1.6Amps
Ref : http://www.f-16sim.rengaf.net/Cockpit/Center%20Console/MFD%27s/MFD.htm
I think the LC 40 will only do down to 12V which is more than fine for backlighting leds, but not so good for lights.  Yes I could put a resistor in series with the bulbs off PWM, but it would have to be a pretty good size (1.66A*7V=11Watt resistor).

Cheers

Peter

 
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i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.


Quote
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 16, 2007, 04:40:10 AM
Quote
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.




Yes probably a PC power supplier might do the Job ... never realised ( :-[) that PC power suppliers have a embedded PWM ..... i will make a try soon !

As per your second question i can't understand if you're referring to the internal lighting or to the indicators.
All the in dicators and lighted pushbuttons will be driven by UCC or EFFLUX (so they will switch on or off according to the Sim), probably only the Magnetically held switches and the solenoids will have a dedicated (not dimmed) power line.
All the Consolle's lights, spot lights, flood lights and backlited panels will be INDIPENDENT from the SIM. (the Spot lights will have also a "not dimmed" line as they've a built in pot.)

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 16, 2007, 04:53:33 AM
If i were You i'd hook them up to the lighting panel's pot ("primary - consolle")
so you can enter the pit "DARK AND COLD"  and then bringing her to life as in the real deal.
i don't think that the real deal lights up indipendently from a switch ...

Cheers


I've been looking a having them on all the time or using the power available flag in shared memory (hopefully it is there).  I was looking at using a multi-ganged pot for controlling the dimming. The tricky bit is finding a 5V dimmer, at 1.6Amps
Ref : http://www.f-16sim.rengaf.net/Cockpit/Center%20Console/MFD%27s/MFD.htm
I think the LC 40 will only do down to 12V which is more than fine for backlighting leds, but not so good for lights.  Yes I could put a resistor in series with the bulbs off PWM, but it would have to be a pretty good size (1.66A*7V=11Watt resistor).

Cheers

Peter

 
Quote
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.


Quote
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Icy Knight on August 16, 2007, 07:45:05 AM
Quote
If i were You i'd hook them up to the lighting panel's pot ("primary - consolle")
so you can enter the pit "DARK AND COLD"  and then bringing her to life as in the real deal.
i don't think that the real deal lights up indipendently from a switch ...

yes I would imagine you would hook them up in the real deal way, that way when you get shot and you loose panel power the lights go out.

in which case use a pc power supply to provide the power to the lights, but use a relay to control when the pc power is applied to the lights.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on August 16, 2007, 11:53:43 AM
Hey Strale!
That pit look awsome, it looks like the real deal.

The bulp in the sidepanel light, what volt is yours, cause mine is 3 volt.
i will hook those up to a pc psu, and hopefully get a potmeter to make the dim function.
You can change all the bulps to 5 volt so they follow the panel lights.
I have 3, 5 and 12 volt bulps for those.
But i mean the real light bulps is low volt like 3 to 3,3 volt, cause when i got my first real side panel with original light in i started to put 12v on it, and pow they where dead  :wacko:

Hope to see more pics Davide, and  keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 16, 2007, 03:36:01 PM
Quote
yes I would imagine you would hook them up in the real deal way, that way when you get shot and you loose panel power the lights go out.

in which case use a pc power supply to provide the power to the lights, but use a relay to control when the pc power is applied to the lights.

I don't know if that's is feaseable with Falcon.
Take in consideration that i'm not dealing with LEDS so an unique voltage ... i'm dealing with 3 different voltages: 28Vdc, 12 and 5Vdc. might be a pain in the ass trying to do so.

A Relay ?? ok ok ... explain better please my knowledge is not so precise.
thanks

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 16, 2007, 03:47:57 PM
Hey Strale!
That pit look awsome, it looks like the real deal.


Hmmmmm.... Kukki .. that's the REAL DEAL ... or well ... it's an old F-16A Weapon Trainer Unit .... that in these years I modifyed to a block 52 looking style


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The bulp in the sidepanel light, what volt is yours, cause mine is 3 volt.
i will hook those up to a pc psu, and hopefully get a potmeter to make the dim function.

I don't know exactely they are working with 28Vdc but quite for sure they're 12 Vdc (at full brightness they heat quickly ... and they're also too bright !)

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You can change all the bulps to 5 volt so they follow the panel lights.
I have 3, 5 and 12 volt bulps for those.

I'd rather to deal with 24Vdc lights .... thanks

Quote
But i mean the real light bulps is low volt like 3 to 3,3 volt, cause when i got my first real side panel with original light in i started to put 12v on it, and pow they where dead  :wacko:

Hmmmm that sounds strange Kukki... also my sidewall panels are the real deal .. .and they were mounting 28Vdc lamps ..... unfortunately only one was working .. so i need to replace them all .... now it's working and it's fine ..... as soon as i will get the 24vdc bulbs i will place them there !

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Hope to see more pics Davide, and  keep up the good work.

Sure Kukki,
i spent the WHOLE day in the pit today .... finished some paint works, installed the spot light on the upper right sidewall panel, installed the Chaff and Flare plunge.... (all is wired) and ran some "power" wires along the pit.
Unfortunately the Trainer was missing quite all the support for thingies so i had to deal for about 1 1/2 hour to install the spot light .... founding a good isolated support, drilling holes, checking and checking again that nothing was to ground ... and so on ... but damn .... all is coming out great !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Jarrod66 on August 19, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
Wow,

I haven't had time to look at progress threads lately but that looks awesome Davide...

Later,
Jarrod
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 20, 2007, 04:07:56 AM
Hi Jarrod and thanks !
in the last two days i made some improvement on the wiring and prepared a couple of boxes to protect main power sources.
installed also a the Grimes spot/flood light on the right side consolle and the little spot light located
on the left upper sidewall panel.

Damn ..... it took quite all yesterday afternoon to modify the wiring and adding other power lines to the left side:
Now i have:
1) Active 24 Vdc variable line (consolle's lights)
1) Active 24 Vdc direct line (spot lights that has internal dimmers (4 lights) + magnetically held switches (this line will be splitted one will power up lights directly the other one will power up only the magnetically held switches through UCC)
1) Active 24 Vdc variable line (for dimming indicators) hooked to the UCC

still have to run wires for a dimmable line for Instruments on the right side consolle.

Then i will have to figure out HOW to power up the panels that run at 5Vdc through a dimmable power line.

next update with picture at the end of the week.

Cheers all

Davide
 
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Marvin on August 21, 2007, 04:34:41 PM
Strale,

I really cannot comment on your cockpit.  It really is in a leage of its own.  :content:

Great work!  :thumbsup:

Jody
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 21, 2007, 04:51:03 PM
Thanks Jody,

i'll try to keep updated on this ... I think that wiring for the Electrical System will be one of the major jobs on the whole pit !  :wacko:
Keeping the wiring NEAT and CLEAR is not so easy !  :'(
But it's coming great ! better than what you saw ... i completely redesigned the right side wiring (i was not happy with those flying cables !) :eatpuke::

So i took an OLD (and not working PC power supplier) stripped out the electronics,
painted in Gloss Orange the shell, mounted again the power connectors, switch and vent and NOW it's ready to be placed in place of the terminal block.

The Terminal will fit inside the shell. being also ventiled (i realised that the positive terminal receiving the 27.5 volts come very HOT ..... and i was not pleased of it !  :puterrage:

Now just have to find a suitable drawing software as also BEWARE OF SHOCK stickers will be applied to the shell containing the "hot" leads !

Damn ... it's not easy .. but lots of FUN also in this !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Icy Knight on August 22, 2007, 09:47:23 AM
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Now just have to find a suitable drawing software as also BEWARE OF SHOCK stickers will be applied to the shell containing the "hot" leads !


Strale,

do you warning sticker design so it will fit a label like Avery's label stock.

You can do some neat text stuff with MS word. MS word has templates for most if not all Avery label stock. That way you can still use your color inkjet.

Most USAF warning stickers are pretty much the same as commercial industy.

You may even be better off checking out some industrial suppliers for the right picture and just copy and paste it from their web site.

I'm pretty sure there is no copyright on these designs. 

http://www.alpinegraphic.com/safety-signs.html (http://www.alpinegraphic.com/safety-signs.html)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 22, 2007, 10:54:50 AM
Hi Icy,

honestly at this moment i was facing a "custom" label using Word but not with the Avery standard.
I will try some gloss adesive paper (if i can find) or transparent adesive papers.
I like the label i made .... but don't know how to show you as it's a word file
any tips ?

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Icy Knight on August 22, 2007, 01:30:53 PM
you could email the file, and I can open it up with word

 :thumbsup:


see if you can pull up the follow menus in word:

On the Tools menu, point to Letters and Mailings, and then click Envelopes and Labels.
Click the Labels tab.
Click Options.
Under Printer information, click your printer type.
In the Label products box, click the brand of label you want to use.
If you don't see the brand or type you want, click Other/Custom.

In the Product number box, click the number of your label.
If the type of label you want to use is not listed in the Product number box, you might be able to use one of the listed labels, or you can create your own custom labels.

if you can find the avery label that fits your sign then just buy that size of avery labels.

(mhmmm maybe I should have been an office supply pusher.   :whistle:)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Icy Knight on August 22, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
Strale,

you could do a print screen of it.

  :beer:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 22, 2007, 02:05:57 PM
I SWEAR
that i didn't read Your reply before doing that !
dunno why but when i wrote previous message i really didn't think at the
"print scree"
So made it and saved

here's what i made so far !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Beware.jpg)

Any suggestion will be appreciated
And if you realize some mistake in my crappy english ... i'll be glad to be informed !

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Icy Knight on August 22, 2007, 02:38:27 PM
That is a cool sticker.   :biggrin:


Did you make that size for a specific place on your equipment?

If not your could probably resize ever so slightly and get 4 of them to one sheet of paper.

I'm pretty sure you'll be able to find some blank sticks.


but I just remembered I think avery (and probably somebody else) makes a full size 8.5 x 11 (A3?)label. so you could just print it out on a full size label and cut it. but using the other labels would get you some rounded corners.   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 22, 2007, 03:31:08 PM
Icy,
yep the dimensions are fairly near the stickers you find over PC power suppliers
probably i could also resize them but i'm scared they would be too small for my purpose ... if i need more .. i will print them ! LOL

As per the sticks ... well ... if i won't find glossy adesive papers (that would be the nicest ....) i will make a try with transparents adesive paper but a better job would be have them printed on a color laser printer and not on an InkJet !

I'll check !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Icy Knight on August 22, 2007, 07:50:11 PM

Quote
As per the sticks ... well ... if i won't find glossy adesive papers (that would be the nicest ....) i will make a try with transparents adesive paper but a better job would be have them printed on a color laser printer and not on an InkJet !

Yes, agreed, and if you can find yellow adhesive paper to just have to print the red and black colors, that would would be even better. keep color consistancy of that much ink with even a laser is pretty tough.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: bnepethomas on August 23, 2007, 07:48:13 AM
Good news, just got a reply back from the LC40 guys:
Since the voltage in is equal to the voltage out, the LC-40 will drive 5V bulbs by using 5V to power the LC-40 itself.  We tested this on the bench and worked at 5V.   Because the LC-40 has a 5V regulator, it is probably better to use 5.5V to drive the LC-40 if your bulbs will tolerate the extra .5 Volts.

I've been looking a having them on all the time or using the power available flag in shared memory (hopefully it is there).  I was looking at using a multi-ganged pot for controlling the dimming. The tricky bit is finding a 5V dimmer, at 1.6Amps
Ref : http://www.f-16sim.rengaf.net/Cockpit/Center%20Console/MFD%27s/MFD.htm
I think the LC 40 will only do down to 12V which is more than fine for backlighting leds, but not so good for lights.  Yes I could put a resistor in series with the bulbs off PWM, but it would have to be a pretty good size (1.66A*7V=11Watt resistor).

Cheers

Peter

 
Quote
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.


Quote
i'm just trying to figure out HOW to drive the 5Vdc lamps


uhmmmmm, just wondering are you trying to stick to some type of replica standard, or would using a PC power supply do.

you could use the +5vdc from pc power supply.

my next question would be are you going to shut those lights off if the falcon software says their supposed to be off, or are these lights going to be completely manually controlled.


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on September 02, 2007, 09:30:25 AM
Davide,
I just saw your picture of the F16 over there with the Hill AFB painting logo on it.   :-)
It's funny to see that on a plane on the other side of the world.
Cool Stuff
Thanks
Jim
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 02, 2007, 10:10:40 AM
Jim

when i was there and saw it i just remembered of Your stencils ...
so i took a picture for You. Eh eh eh eh
Yep... they are on the other side of the world ... but they're still U.S.A.F. property ! as they were Leased for about 10 years

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 05, 2007, 05:39:18 PM
A little update,

i was trying a small digital camera i bought and thought that trying to make a short video of a RAMP START would have been a nice try !
It was also first time i tryed to edit a video .. so don't be too destructive ! I promise to improve my skills on this too !

So here's the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK35FDKrhn0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK35FDKrhn0)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Bravo5552 on September 05, 2007, 06:06:17 PM
Beautiful Strale :yihaw:

Bravo
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Jarrod66 on September 05, 2007, 06:30:11 PM
Now that was AWESOME!!!...I can't wait to get mine up and running.

Great Work Davide...

Jarrod
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 05, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
Mate,
did you see i gave also credits to Your great work ?
hope you appreciate.
Cheers
Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on September 05, 2007, 06:42:37 PM
Great Work!

I wish I'd have my gauges casing so I could plug all my BetaInnovation gauges.

Thanks for charing.

Leo will be proud of this accomplishment.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Jarrod66 on September 05, 2007, 08:03:41 PM
Mate,
did you see i gave also credits to Your great work ?
hope you appreciate.
Cheers
Davide


I did see that..... :lol: :lol:...I'm quite proud...Thanks buddy..

Jarrod...

(P.S......101-douxx...Your tubes shipped last Friday so you should have them soon.... :lol: :lol: :lol:  Be sure to let me know when you get them...)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on September 05, 2007, 09:45:45 PM
Mate,
did you see i gave also credits to Your great work ?
hope you appreciate.
Cheers
Davide


I did see that..... :lol: :lol:...I'm quite proud...Thanks buddy..

Jarrod...

(P.S......101-douxx...Your tubes shipped last Friday so you should have them soon.... :lol: :lol: :lol:  Be sure to let me know when you get them...)

Great!!! :yihaw:
I'll do it for sure.
Thanks!
Stephane.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: LeoL on September 05, 2007, 11:07:26 PM
Thanks Strale. I've waited nearly a year and a half to see these gauges in action.  :yihaw:  :beer:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on September 06, 2007, 02:46:41 AM
Hey Strale!
Very good video  ;)
I can see you have the NOZ and FTIT working, is it OF you are running?
Have you sorted out the ZERO value on the NOZ and FTIT, if so HOW?

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on September 06, 2007, 03:01:28 AM
Thanks Strale. I've waited nearly a year and a half to see these gauges in action.  :yihaw:  :beer:

Oh...that's painful.

Jay
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Crease-Guard on September 06, 2007, 03:15:42 AM
Ok, IIRC, the FTIT 'zero' position in the sh. mem is something like 700.  Now, if you want to mimic falcons FTIT gauge, you have to set the needle to NOT move until the FTIT is something like 784 (or something like that off the top of my head).  The way I did that was to set the min to 700 and max to 784 for the FIRST scale of the FTIT and then have the needle move ONE tic only of the 256 possible.  This way, the needle moves one tic between those values but that one tic is so imperceptible you'll not notice it and you will think you have kept the needle stationary.  Now, you'll get a bit of a different rate of change, i.e., the needle will move faster than what you see on screen, but that's just the way it is.  You'll start to move at the same time and you'll end up at the same number you see on screen.  It works, I've done it and can mimic falcon almost perfectly. 

What you have to do it run OF in "windowed" mode and pause the sim just as you see the needle move for what ever gauge you are calibrating.  Go into F4IM and pull up the sh. mem window with all the values and not what the value is when you paused the sim.  Repeat this a couple times to verify your result.  Do the same for when the needle comes to the resting position and then pause the sim, go back to F4IM and look at the sh. mem value.  Note both of these and then use them for the max and min numbers on the next scale. 

Yes, it's  PITA, blame the original coders of falcon.  BUT, you only have to do it once.  SAVE the file, don't loose it.  My file got zapped while beta testing for Leo.  I went through quite a few hours of testing these gauges to find all these little bugaboos and figure out what was falcon and what was F4IM.  Believe me, it's NOT F4IM.

Oh, FYI, the FTIT temp only goes to like 825 max in the game.  At idle, you should be 575.

Jay
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2007, 05:54:00 AM
Hey Strale!
Very good video  ;)
I can see you have the NOZ and FTIT working, is it OF you are running?
Have you sorted out the ZERO value on the NOZ and FTIT, if so HOW?

Kukki

Kukki,
that's AF unfortunately ! And still not completely tweacked the gauges to real values (FTIT mainly)
as per what concerning OF i'm still stuck as actually it seems to be quite impossible to couple the Nozzle to the RPM's data in the shared memory ....

I hope someone will find a solution as soon as possible

Cheers

DAvide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2007, 05:59:03 AM
Thanks Strale. I've waited nearly a year and a half to see these gauges in action.  :yihaw:  :beer:

Hi Leo,

of course there's still some "tweaks" to do ... but i was very glad of the first look !  :yihaw:
Glad you enjoyed them !!! and .... you know that all this wouldn't have possible without YOU !  :beer:

Looking forward to have the chance to put on YOUTUBE (hey AD .. b.t.w. why i wasn't able to hook my video to the youtube linking feature of the forum ??)
a FULL WORKING IP/1310 ALR and the originale display of the
CMDS panel !  ;) ;) ;)

Cheers

Davide


 
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: LeoL on September 06, 2007, 11:24:10 AM
Oh...that's painful.

 :reading:

Quote
i'm still stuck as actually it seems to be quite impossible to couple the Nozzle to the RPM's data in the shared memory ....

If someone can provide me with a relationship between the NOZ and RPM, I can possibly hardcode a solution into F4IM much like I did for HYD 1&2 and Cabin Pressure.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on September 06, 2007, 11:59:55 AM
Hey Leo!
I have mailed Boxer, he is the man there can help.

About hardcode the HYD 1 and 2, I have sent a mail for you so you can see the values.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on September 06, 2007, 02:11:05 PM
Great Video Davide!!!!  :yihaw:  :beer: First time I have seen a vid of them moving. "Jay" :whistle:

Thanks for taking the time to vid and post it!! A plus is the Godfather like accent of your English :biggrin: (Very Good)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK35FDKrhn0

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: LeoL on September 06, 2007, 02:47:52 PM
A plus is the Godfather like accent of your English :biggrin: (Very Good)

Yeah and now I live in fear of waking up with the head of a dead horse in my bed if I don't fix the FTIT and NOZ gauges soon.  :o :hangman:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Boxer on September 06, 2007, 03:47:09 PM
There are a couple of possible answers to the problems with NOZ and FTIT in the shared mem.  I think in the BMS code that you guys have access to with the OF package that both are "compromised" as a result of historical programming (they've always been wrong) and that I don't have round gauges for those hooked up in our project so I haven't until rather recently looked at fixing those (mostly because you all are starting to have nice gauges and are seeing the problems).  Getting these gauges to work shouldn't be this hard...sorry that it didn't get fixed long ago...my bad.

However, moving forward...  Two possible answers would be:

1) to model what these do in real jets.  You can imagine that as equivalent to a better engine model being present in the game exe and the shared memory fixed to export a "correct" set of values.  Of course in this case since updated exe code isn't possible something like F4IM updates to provide values might be needed instead; or

2) to get the external gauges to mirror what you see on the 2D and 3D pit art gauges in the game exe as it runs for the version of the exe code that you have.  Again, I think implementation in the short term would have to be through something like F4IM since updated exe code isn't on the cards.

Oh and obviously only speaking for BMS derived code here...can't help with the other dialects since I don't have any insight on those.

Option 1 could be more code to implement since the relationship to values that are available and correct (rpm among them) is non-linear (there are numercial modeling filter functions involved to get this stuff "right").
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2007, 05:49:41 PM
Great Video Davide!!!!  :yihaw:  :beer: First time I have seen a vid of them moving. "Jay" :whistle:

Thanks for taking the time to vid and post it!! A plus is the Godfather like accent of your English :biggrin: (Very Good)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK35FDKrhn0



Hey Mate... thanks for your nice words ...
damn .. it was the very first time i took a video (got the camera on tuesday....) tryed to place some titles and credits and then uploaded it to Youtube ... but for the first time i'm quite glad of the result

As for my english ... well you know it seems that Men have some difficulties while dealing with many matters at a time (speaking, looking at the camera's monitor, hearing wife addressing "Did you burnt your Brain ??" (honey..... i'm a pitbuilder .. i don't have ANY brain at all !!!), pressing "buttons" on the keyboard ... and well ... it was the first time ! eh eh eh ......) can't hide i was not completely confortable ....
Have i been too ..... "schoolish" ?

What you mean exactely for "Godfather like" ?

Cheers

Davide

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2007, 05:59:19 PM
A plus is the Godfather like accent of your English :biggrin: (Very Good)

Yeah and now I live in fear of waking up with the head of a dead horse in my bed if I don't fix the FTIT and NOZ gauges soon.  :o :hangman:

Leo,
i think that the day that someone will knock your door with a large package ....... well .... won't be for the FTIT and NOZ .... eh eh eh eh
I'm confortable for an easy fix on the FTIT ny ourselves (just a matter of filling the stages with the right values
B.t.w. Jay ... i don't think (hope someone else can join this discussion) that the FTIT has to follow what you see on the screen (i mean ... 0?C for long time before moving....) I think that when the JSF is running the temperature is near to the zero ... but as soon as you begin to feed fuel for the start up procedure and the Engine begins to rise up RPMs .... also the also the FTIT should rise up.
I read somewhere that the F100 is damned HOT than the F110 ... causing FTIT to be around 650 / 750? C just at the end of the Run Up.

As per the NOZZLE ... hope in the HELP of some OF guru ..... really can't think at anything else that a rework in the SIM.

But getting back to the first issues ......

Just THINK on how to fix the issues with the RWR and to find out some solution for teh CMDS's display .....
that one of the major issues i can see and for wich .... Horses should stay far from me for a while ! LOL

eh eh eh eh

Cheers and THANKS AGAIN for Your PRECIOUS WORK !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: lightning on September 06, 2007, 06:03:31 PM
"Godfather", as in the Mafia boss title, popularized by the movie, "The Godfather" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Godfather) --I'd say the comment was referring to your Italian-accented English, which is quite good, Davide!

I was watching the video last night on my laptop and Krista overheard the audio from across the room and was like, "Who's that?"  Your voice sounds familiar to people here in the States, but so far I can't identify who exactly it reminds me of...then again I am pretty bad when it comes to celebrity names.  But if I remember right, Marlon Brando sounds a helluva lot different than Davide ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2007, 06:25:33 PM
"Godfather", as in the Mafia boss title, popularized by the movie, "The Godfather" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Godfather) --I'd say the comment was referring to your Italian-accented English, which is quite good, Davide!

I was watching the video last night on my laptop and Krista overheard the audio from across the room and was like, "Who's that?"  Your voice sounds familiar to people here in the States, but so far I can't identify who exactly it reminds me of...then again I am pretty bad when it comes to celebrity names.  But if I remember right, Marlon Brando sounds a helluva lot different than Davide ;)

Damn ...
and I'm Italian ... I swear i never thought at "PADRINO" ... godfather .... eh eh eh eh probably 'cause i'm from NORTH of ITALY and not SOUTH .... eh eh eh ... HEY .. that's not nice ! LOL .....
next time i will try to record a song ! LOL ... maybe ...."Love Me Tender??" while running up gauges ....
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: LeoL on September 06, 2007, 06:34:46 PM
Hey! What do you have against the south? :mad: Careful, not a word about Calabria! :bat:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2007, 06:45:26 PM
Hey! What do you have against the south? :mad: Careful, not a word about Calabria! :bat:

AH AH AH AH ..... Dear Leo,
Are still your friends there used to PLANT PEAS with GUN's SHOTS ?? eh eh eh eh.
mate .. just kidding ... but you know Il Padrino (or the GodFather) is not one of the most nice things we - italians - "exported" to the USA
and please refrain to add "Pasta and Pizza" otherwise i might get HOT  :bat: :bat: :bat:

Ciao Cump? !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: lightning on September 06, 2007, 06:53:31 PM
Il Padrino (or the GodFather) is not one of the most nice things we - italians - "exported" to the USA

Blame Sicily.  "Autonomous region", and all...
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: LeoL on September 06, 2007, 07:17:06 PM
:mad:...silently cleans the Lupara...writes down Davide's address...buys plane ticket online for Italy...

Alright we've derailed your thread long enough. Now get back to building and posting.  :beer:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 07, 2007, 05:01:37 AM
:mad:...silently cleans the Lupara...writes down Davide's address...buys plane ticket online for Italy...

Alright we've derailed your thread long enough. Now get back to building and posting.  :beer:

I'm getting scared !!!!
Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 19, 2008, 06:43:09 PM
Sadly can't show any picture but i came back to work on the Pit and
first thing I made was to Work on the HOTAS !

So a Cougar was "salvaged" to take out the electronics .. and after some hours
of DEEP SOLDERING this evening i made a try firing up the Cougar's electronics with the real BLOCK 52 SSC.

After plugging the USB cable in the Computer and hearing the classical sound (new hardware detected) i told my self: HALF THE WAY is DONE !
Quick check on the Gaming Hardware and DAMN !!! IT'S THERE ...
all is working FINE

TOMORROW will be the DAY of the LVDT ! Wish me Luck Guys !

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: maestro209 on April 21, 2008, 09:14:28 PM
probably 'cause i'm from NORTH of ITALY and not SOUTH .... eh eh eh ... HEY .. that's not nice !

That's very similar to the conversation I had with a nice Tuscan inn keeper gentleman while visiting in 2002. We were discussing all the 'finer' quality's Italy has 'exported' to the USA. He stated "we export Asparagus, Artichokes and the mafia." later that evening he was kind enough to call us a cab for our trip back via Siena's train station. While talking to several people at multiple cab companies, he raised the receiver wiped his brow and stated "they do not know what I'm saying because they are from souther Italy! They don't speak Italian!" We all started rolling in laughter. We were afraid that after all his very generous effort we were going to have to walk the 12 km to Siena's train station. He did manage to secure us a ride. Needless to say his generosity, that conversation and the striking beauty of Tuscany in April are prominent memories of that trip!

An additional memory is of the Piazza Del Campo. Standing in it's center one finds it difficult to comprehend racing horses at full speed in that small space!

Before this becomes derailed completely. Nice work on the gauges! They look and work beautifully!

>M
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: SirCedric_VIAF on April 22, 2008, 02:59:42 AM
Bah,  :lol: for most north italians we, in Rome, are in the deep south. :D . They tink the south start above Firenze, we think, otherwise, the south start above Cassino  :biggrin:, may be in Naples they are thinking it start just before Salerno.

Anyway...well done and good job Davide.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 25, 2008, 04:51:06 PM
Guys,

GREAT DAY TODAY !!!!
With the assistance of MARV DE BEQUE (thanks mate !)
TODAY the REAL SSC was taken back to LIFE !!!!

When I had to "salvage" the COUGAR well .... was really and HARD DAY ... but
dunno if You can figure out the satisfaction i had when this evening i hooked all the things up.
fired the two power suppliers, plugged the cougar's board USB cable in the computer and launched teh Cougar Control Panel,

The SSC is still not installed on the consolle .. so calibration was made with a not blocked stick ....
but got in any case a quite good calibration.

Launched OF .... and made FIRST FLIGHT

GORGEOUS !!!!! The movement is smooth, precise with no flicklering !

Just to let You know my happiness that all is running fine !

Cheers All

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on April 25, 2008, 05:31:11 PM
Great work Strale. Looking forward to see some pics.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 25, 2008, 05:37:07 PM
Great work Strale. Looking forward to see some pics.

Kukki

Difficult to show pictures out of the SSC complete, MKI and Cougar's board...
You know it's all still "flying" (i mean not installed.... eh eh eh eh)

In the next two days i'm planning at least to start with the Block 52 Throttle's grip ..
with Crease-Guard's interfacing board for the Radar Cursor's transducer.....

Let's place some fingers x-crossed ! LOL
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 26, 2008, 07:06:46 AM
Ok Guys,
as per Kukki kind request here some pictures of the SSC.

First three pictures are of the STICK and SSC with harnesses for switches and Pitch and Roll Axis

The Base is a Block 15 modified
I was lucky enough to find a female connector 37 pin to replace the original one.
not an easy job but it didn't take lot of time.
Then also the 27 Pin subminiature connector on the base was changed with a BD37.

The central Harness then link to the COUGAR board

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010022-5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010023-5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010024-5.jpg)

Interfacing the Transducers to the COUGAR was an easy job thanks to Marv De Beque's MKI
Marv is CEO of AEROTRONICS for those who don't know him and he's providing HOTAS solutions to the Military.
I hope he won't mind if I place a link to his home page: www.aerotronicsltd.com (http://www.aerotronicsltd.com)

I placed the Cougar Board just above the MKI so i can have all "handy"
FROM ABOVE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010025-4.jpg)

FRONT SIDE:
You can see 4 pots and a switch.
in the CAL position the board is just setted with STANDARD SSC forces
Pitch Down 16.0 lbs @ .027" ? .013"
Pitch Up 25.0 lbs @ .171" ? .058"
Roll 7.7 Kg = 17.0 lbs @ .110" ? .030"
In the GAIN ADJ
You can TRIM the position of the Axis and adjust the gain for "more" or "less" strenght on the stick.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010027-2.jpg)

REAR SIDE:

You can see 3 DB connectors. The DB15 is used to supply the power needed to the interfacing board:
+12 / -12 and ground, then it receive also the +5VDC from the COUGAR's Board needed to activate a Reed Relay used to "cut off" power when the cougar is not plugged in the computer. And aslo to send to the board the signals that enters in the "pots" connectors
Then the TWO DB9 are connected directly to the SSC for exciting the transducers and getting back the signal.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010029-3.jpg)

Hope You will enjoy them

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: zarpjj on April 26, 2008, 07:57:58 AM
He guy, these PCB are mine......

Send it to me please.

Tu ai fatto un bello lavoro, molto piaccere per te.

Zarpjj
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 26, 2008, 11:16:40 AM
Thanks Zarpjj .... eh eh eh eh

This afternoon i spent some time to install the SSC in the pit !
and here's how the PIT appears !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P2010022.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P2010023.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P2010024.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P2010026.jpg)

Looking at the Right Aux Consolle from the RIBS You can see the SSC's Harnesses and the
Caution Panel

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P2010025.jpg)

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on April 26, 2008, 11:31:54 AM
THANKS STRALE.
Those pics and that pit is some of the most awsome I have seen here on VP, It looks Great man.
You have a really good base to set all the real stuff up in, and make all the real stuff work wit a PC is a hard and fun work.

Great Pit you got there Strale.

But the black MLU finish looks better  :whistle: :beer:

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 26, 2008, 12:06:29 PM
Thanks Kurt for Your kind words !
unfortunately real life duties don't allow me to spend much time on the pit
so works are really slow ! But this one was a great achievement and I'm
really proud to have a working SSC.

As per the color .... well ....
I choosed a block 52 ... thus color has to be grey ! even if I tought lot of time to the Black Matt finish

Cheers

Davide


THANKS STRALE.
Those pics and that pit is some of the most awsome I have seen here on VP, It looks Great man.
You have a really good base to set all the real stuff up in, and make all the real stuff work wit a PC is a hard and fun work.

Great Pit you got there Strale.

But the black MLU finish looks better  :whistle: :beer:

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Red Dog on April 26, 2008, 04:02:37 PM
You can be proud Davide, Well done
Now I wonder if that stuff will suffer in the flash process  :-P :harhar: :harhar:
Remember the trick to disconnect the throttle before flashing.. I hope the flash doesn't destroy your hardware














Just teasing    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 26, 2008, 06:34:20 PM
Thanks Olivier
yes .. i'm really proud  ! and for the flashing .. eh eh eh eh
throttle's was not plugged in ! LOL

now it's time to work on the throttle. And I know there will be 3 obstacles
the Two POTS and the Radar Cursor ....

I will face these troubles during the next 4 weeks .....(being able to work on it only during the week ends)

Cheers

You can be proud Davide, Well done
Now I wonder if that stuff will suffer in the flash process  :-P :harhar: :harhar:
Remember the trick to disconnect the throttle before flashing.. I hope the flash doesn't destroy your hardware

Just teasing    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 11, 2008, 12:53:24 PM
Another short update !
I had some time to spend on the trainer so i used it to install the PFD !
It came from a G-15 Keyboard so the dimension is a little bit wider than the Z-10 one ... but didn't want to spend 110 Euros on another Z-10.

The bezel came from the original G-15 front part bezel .... cutted and trimmed to a rectangular shape.

I also placed a yellow filter on the display to gain a more greenish look.

It was a little tricky to install the board as the flat cable is quite short and as there's no so much space to place the board orizzontally .. So, even if you can't see it, now it's placed diagonally from the caution panel body and the upper part of the right aux consolle.

Checked there was enough room for the compass when i Hot-Glued it...

Hope You enjoy the result !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010035.jpg)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: TOR on May 11, 2008, 02:16:15 PM
Hi Davide!

 :o

That work is truly awesome....

Yet another VERY motivating factor.....

Thank you!  :thumbsup:

And when we are at it Strale.... do you have a nice colour to use with the interiors!??  I have been advised on a RAL-colour... but need some kind of confirmation on that - from a professional!!  ;)  Which is you!!!  :)))

Cheers,

GUN
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 11, 2008, 03:10:33 PM
Thanks for the kind words Gun.
unfortunately i lack time so can't dedicate much of it to go on quickly !
but step by step ... one day it will be finished ! LOL

as per the colors.... don't thrust RAL colors .. they don't match federal standard. For the colors i took one original and "new" part to a Color's Shop with capability of matching and filling spray cans .... then the job was done ! Now they have a record for my "custom grey" and when i need some cans i just have to ring them up and in a couple of days i can pick up the cans

I made the same with the "yellow-green" primer and it was really a good solution !

costs is moderate as the custom cans stay at 8 Euros each.

Cheers

Davide

Now i'm trying to make the SKIN of the trainer in Fiberglass ... but first try was orrible !!!
Would be nice if someone can give me some hints to make a good Job on that

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on May 11, 2008, 03:20:47 PM
As always Strale.........VERY GOOD WORK there.
You get working a littel on your pit at the time  :thumbsup:
Good things take a lot of GOOD time :-)

Keep up the good work and post more pics, I love your progress  ;)

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Red Dog on May 12, 2008, 03:35:47 AM
Davide,

Small service if I may?

Whenever you have a minute (real no hurry here)
can you take a measuring strip or a weighted wire and tell me the exact spots where the attaching screws of both the wrist rest and arm rest projects on the right console top? where the panels are. That must be somewhere on the NUKE panel and on the KY 58 panel?
(http://www.candyparty.com/ST/cockpit/P2010022_RD.jpg)
And the heights 1, 2, 3 & 4 also

Many thanks
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 12, 2008, 03:52:09 PM
You're wellcome Olivier.

just a little bit of patience as tomorrow i'm leaving for a business trip and i'll be back only on saturday ....
in any case if you don't hear from me .... don't esitate to jog my mind ! LOL

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on May 14, 2008, 05:46:30 AM
HA!!! Jog your memory, but jog your mind will work ok.
Davide is a great guy. He is really helping me a lot with my trainer. Don't forget guys, his trainer is exact for scale and dimensions. The canopy guys can get pics from him and they will be right.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on May 25, 2008, 05:22:10 AM
Davide and everyone,
Here is something that can help make all interior wiring look nice. Not just look nice, but you can split off a branch and still cover it. This is great for bundles that are already complete and have the connectors too large to fit through normal braided sleeve. Lots of colors so you can color code your bundles. Go here to this link.
Cheers,
Nigel

http://cableorganizer.com/

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm64/NigelTufnel11/woven-wrao-tool-red3.jpg)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 15, 2008, 04:34:25 PM
Guys

It's time to PROUDLY INTRODUCE the NEW SKINNED TRAINER !
Just taking a rest a tthe Skinning Facility !!!!

Just need a fresh paintjob (just ordered the Right FS to a professional
color maker ....)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CIMG1690.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CIMG1693.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CIMG1694.jpg)

Hope You'll enjoy them !

Cheers All !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on July 15, 2008, 05:02:22 PM
Just one word!!!

!!!WOW!!!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on July 15, 2008, 08:54:18 PM
WOW IS RIGHT!!
You are going to have the most bad-ass pit in the world, Davide! HOLY SHEEP SHIT!! THAT IS AWESOME!!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on July 15, 2008, 08:57:22 PM
Hey Davide!! I just realized you have the same parts in the forward bulkhead that Jay has. The whole front mount for the HUD. Before you cover it up we need very detailed pics and dims.
Thanks, Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Killratio on July 16, 2008, 12:57:36 AM
Davide,

looking good

Darryl
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Squid on July 16, 2008, 03:27:29 AM
This is really looking good, I hope to be able to do half as good  :hail:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on July 16, 2008, 06:24:49 AM
Hey Davide!
Is that skin fiberglass or aluminum? It looks great!
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: heines on July 16, 2008, 01:44:46 PM
looking good there man  :yihaw:
would love to see it with some paint

realy nice work

cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 17, 2008, 06:10:50 PM
Dave,
it's fiberglass .... sheet applyed on a metal net following the ribs


Hey Davide!
Is that skin fiberglass or aluminum? It looks great!
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on July 18, 2008, 12:50:26 PM
Davide,
Great job on the skinning.  I can hardly recognizre the trainer.  I feel like I have trainer children all over the world now.   hehehehehehehe.   For those that don't know I used to own that trainer when it was just a bare metal skeleton.  It seems to have travelled all over the world and now has a good home.   Its actually a pretty rare item.   There are only 19 of these trainers left in the entire world.  I talked to the program manager in the military that is in charge of all the trainers and he gave me the history on this trainer. 

The trainer was actually bigger when i first got it.  The trainer has the cockpit section which sits on a heavy steel frame and there used to be another steel box frame under that which added another 2 feet to the height and 1000 pounds to the weight.  I removed that section and scrapped it as it was just far to big and heavy.    When I first bought the trainer I had a tough time getting it in a truck and back to my garage since it was so dang big and heavy.

The trainer is a Weapons Trainer and has lots of room for all the computers it used to have.  There is one at the WPAFB museum and a few in storage.   But with only 19 still in existence its actually a pretty cool thing to own.  GREAT JOB DAVIDE !

Davide, one of these days I'll post all the pics I have of it of when i first got it.  :-)
Take care
Jim

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Squid on July 18, 2008, 01:06:36 PM
Feather, how the hell did you send such a big thing to Italy ?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 18, 2008, 03:31:28 PM
 :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
That's a quite long Tale SKIN !

eh eh eh eh eh

I was not the first in Europe to OWN that.
The original buyer is a great friend of me and when he was dealing with Jim about it .... (as i'm working for a freight society) i gave him all the assistance to avoid issues with Customs.

Then .... after i while i had the chance to acquire it ... and i did it !

Take Care


Feather, how the hell did you send such a big thing to Italy ?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 18, 2008, 03:36:29 PM
Jim,
I'd bet it !
the sckeleton is still the same ... but may mods were done since i got it

1) the Original Block 10 instrument panel was swapped with a block 52
2) the left aux was slightly modified to the block 52 look (just filled the LeFlap hole
3) The Right Aux was swapped with Martin's replica (and it fits like a glove !
4) the HUD support was rivetted
5) last but not least the Skinning !!! and damn guys i'm really proud of it !

Adn Jim will help again as i ordered his stencils to paint the correct labels on the skinning ! Can't wait to the end of the paint job !

Jim ... would be great if you could post the pictures of the trainer as you got it ! Damn ...... i still have in "mind" the sadness for having lost the seat !


Davide,
Great job on the skinning.  I can hardly recognizre the trainer.  I feel like I have trainer children all over the world now.   hehehehehehehe.   For those that don't know I used to own that trainer when it was just a bare metal skeleton.  It seems to have travelled all over the world and now has a good home.   Its actually a pretty rare item.   There are only 19 of these trainers left in the entire world.  I talked to the program manager in the military that is in charge of all the trainers and he gave me the history on this trainer. 

The trainer was actually bigger when i first got it.  The trainer has the cockpit section which sits on a heavy steel frame and there used to be another steel box frame under that which added another 2 feet to the height and 1000 pounds to the weight.  I removed that section and scrapped it as it was just far to big and heavy.    When I first bought the trainer I had a tough time getting it in a truck and back to my garage since it was so dang big and heavy.

The trainer is a Weapons Trainer and has lots of room for all the computers it used to have.  There is one at the WPAFB museum and a few in storage.   But with only 19 still in existence its actually a pretty cool thing to own.  GREAT JOB DAVIDE !

Davide, one of these days I'll post all the pics I have of it of when i first got it.  :-)
Take care
Jim


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Squid on July 18, 2008, 03:59:47 PM
So that was the story behind. But you said "lost the seat" ? Seems like another long story ...
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on July 18, 2008, 05:27:32 PM
Jim, you are the Godfather of trainers!!
As another "child" trainer parent, hey Jim if they ever want to trade my Fam trainer for one of the Weapons trainers in storage, I would love to adopt one. Only because I have the room for a canopy. I know the Egress and the Weapons trainers are much bigger than the Fam's. If one comes up, keep me in mind! I already LOVE mine and Davide's is so cool. It does seem like a family. Who else has one? Chris, (String 2054) has a FAM trainer identical to mine, anyone else here? If I ever do get a Weapons or Egress trainer, I promise I will pass mine on to someone here at VP. They are a big commitment due to the size. Not exactly portable, right Davide? But what a great problem to have. I rented a 24" box truck to pick mine up because that was the only one with a lift-gate big enough. Davide, my compliments again on the "skin job" your Baby is looking great!!
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on July 18, 2008, 05:34:13 PM
Hey Davide!
I just want to put forward the idea of maybe putting a few access panels in the sides before you get much farther. Maybe by the throttle? Anybody else have an idea or is it not necessary? You can do them now and make them something like the real F-16. Just a thought.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on July 18, 2008, 05:34:44 PM
Yep mate.....

tjere was alsp the seat .... but went to one who was declaring
his pledge to help the community .....
then disappeared .... but as you told .. that's another story


So that was the story behind. But you said "lost the seat" ? Seems like another long story ...
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 26, 2008, 03:45:18 PM

Hi Guys,
I've been "idle" for a while .... and that was mainly due to the fact that i had to live last months with a very poor sight.... Until the doctors found what was the trouble i was seeing 2 on 10 .... each eye .....
so really a BAD WORLD ! .....

I had two surgery during last month and now i'm just feeling better .... now i'm 9 on 10 on both eyes ... and still need at least one MONTH to restore completely .... so i've good expectations !

Of course even if IDLE and not posting updated ... works went on ... slowly ... verly slowly ....

This evening i went downstairs and decided to take some pictures .... in the afternoon i Read about the PIT CONTEST ... and DAMN ... nobody remembered me !  :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:  :bat: :bat:

So... let's stop annoying with my troubles and let's start to make someone drooling.

Let's start with a SHORT list of WHAT IS DONE .....
- Main Instrument Panel Installed in the pit
- SSC - Completely INTERFACED and working properly !
- RUDDER PEDALS connected and working (RS) + PEDAL ADJUST
- OIL PSI, NOZZLE POS, RPM and FTIT installed and WORKING (Leo's Gauges + Efflux + PWM board)
- PFD  - G15 display with KIM's Great Software !!!
- CAUTION PANEL - Completely wired and working with LEO's 64 Latched output card
- 5 Module 10 Functions - Completely wired and working with LEO's 64 Latched output card
- ELEC - Wired all the Lamps with the same board above .. need to interface Switches
- Mounted the SPIDER LOCK with all the HW (switch to be interfaced)
- Mounted the CHAFF/FLARE button (is the real deal) - (switch to be interfaced)
- Installed the OXY Hose (using the NBC ASSY from a Dutch F-16 - NIB)

Sorry for the Blurry Images .......

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/spider_2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/spider_4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/spide_back.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/L_S_C_1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/R_S_C_1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Gauges.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Electronic_Bay.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/64_Latched_Output.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Caution_Panel.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/5_10_Mod.jpg)

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Squid on September 26, 2008, 03:52:15 PM
Great progress!! I like the "NASA" box behind the pit on photo #4. Will you do the extended wing version ?  ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on September 26, 2008, 05:18:50 PM
Nice work Strale, and yes damit, did overlook your work of art. On my way to edit that post, shame on me (awards)

glad to see things are looking up for you (pun intended)  :)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: magoo on September 29, 2008, 03:23:01 AM
Hallo Strale,
this is my first replay on your topic, but it's long time that I follow your progress. As you know, I'm not building  a "real thing" pit like you, but your pics are always a very important reference to me.
Thanks for share them!! ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 29, 2008, 07:13:12 AM
Ciao Magoo,
thanks for your kind words !

Davide

Hallo Strale,
this is my first replay on your topic, but it's long time that I follow your progress. As you know, I'm not building  a "real thing" pit like you, but your pics are always a very important reference to me.
Thanks for share them!! ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 12, 2008, 06:04:10 PM
Just a quick update even if without pictures.

This evening my PIT made FIRST RAMP START !
what to say: :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw: ( :wacko:)

i also wired the landing gear handle .. and DAMN .... hearing the solenoid switching when you press the white button and the lollypop's red light turning on while in transiction ..... well .... I'm sure you understand !

next panels:
MASTER FUEL, EPU, LANDING GEAR PANEL

(pictures quite useless .... will try to make a quick movie ! LOL)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: bismond on October 13, 2008, 09:53:25 AM
Excellent pit.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 26, 2008, 02:38:23 PM
After a while i took some time to make a "start up" movie !

Throttle is still "on progress" so it's still not installed in the pit (still have to interface MR - AE and RC)

hope you'll enjoy !


Davide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj_7CjDqAeA
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: jrsteensen on October 26, 2008, 03:09:05 PM
Congradulations! I can't wait to be to that stage of my project!

John
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: TOR on October 26, 2008, 03:54:14 PM
Hey Strale!

Weery nice video  :thumbsup:

I assume that the audio-sequence - with all the "screaming" - is part of such a start-up! Otherwise, you?d really have to straight "her" out  ;)

Thank?s for sharing...

Cheers,

GUN
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on October 26, 2008, 04:07:58 PM
Really nice Strale  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
way to go :-)

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 26, 2008, 04:09:38 PM
Gun,

just pressed the Mal&Indicator switch on the Test Panel ... eh eh eh eh
it's so funny to see all those lamps On ! LOL

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on October 26, 2008, 05:15:08 PM
Great job, Davide.
Marvellous.

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 16, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
CMDS UPDATE !!!

I WAS SURE IT WAS POSSIBLE .. and HERE's the PROVE !

ok ... spent some time, some money too .... but NOW i'm able to interface my real CMDS panel with a CUSTOM BUILT PCB of the same shape and with the same functions of the real one ..... BUT .... but .... it will mount the BELOVED OSRAM SLG2016 instead the "F#Cking" original display !

EVERYTHING IS DIFFICULT but NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE !

SOON available in three different options:

NAKED BOARD: you will add: OSRAM, CAPACITORS, LAMPS or LEDS and CONNECOTRS
SEMI WIRED BOARD: Sold with OSRAMs, CAPACITORS and CONNECTORS
FULLY WIRED BOARD: OSRAMs, CAPACITORS, wirebulbs LAMPS (5Vdc) and CONNECTORS
the last option will be available until all the wirebulbs are finished ! need to check how many i still have !

SINGLE BOARD
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010033.jpg)

COMPARED TO THE REAL ONE
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010034.jpg)

INSIDE THE ORIGINAL PANEL (it fits like a glove !)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010035.jpg)

HOW MANY ????
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010032.jpg)

Cheers ALL !

Davide



Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on February 16, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
Hey Strale!
Wow those boards looks perfect, GREAT WORK mate  :thumbsup:
Do you have a price for the fully mounted board option, sure like one, and need the original CMDS panel too :-)

Kukki

NB. Keep up the good work and post more pics when time comes.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: bismond on February 16, 2009, 12:15:33 PM
Very nice profesional job. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on February 16, 2009, 12:41:14 PM
Great job Davide.
I'm very happy for your result.
Ciao
Giorgio.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Squid on February 16, 2009, 12:45:32 PM
That look really awesome !!  :hail: to your work :hail:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on February 16, 2009, 01:12:02 PM
Time, patience and MONEY....

That's all what we need in this hobby!!! ;)
Oh! And did I mention money ???  :D

We can do anything we want, or almost.

Great work Davide!
 :hail:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 16, 2009, 03:35:34 PM
Thanks Guys for the nice words ....

Just a clarification ... looking at the picture with the PCB inside the Real Panel it seems that the holes are
misaligned ..... it's just a matter of the camera view ! holes are perfectlya ligned !

More info to come

Cheers

Davide

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 16, 2009, 05:54:48 PM
WIRING HAS BEGUN !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010035-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010036.jpg)

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 16, 2009, 06:00:36 PM
Hi Kurt,
thanks ! and YEP .. they're really Nice ... I'm enjoying them a lot !

Nope, still don't have a final price ! still dealing with the SLG2016 supplier and still to find some others wirebulbs !

HEY ... if anybody has sources for light wirebulbs rated 5 - 12 and 24 Vdc I could also provide different voltage's boards.

I'm using 5Vdc for backliting and would like to use 24Vdc for legends .... but then if that kind of bulb is unfoundable i will do with 5Vdc !

some specs:
lenght: no more than 6 mm
diameter: no more than 3 mm

Cheers



Hey Strale!
Wow those boards looks perfect, GREAT WORK mate  :thumbsup:
Do you have a price for the fully mounted board option, sure like one, and need the original CMDS panel too :-)

Kukki

NB. Keep up the good work and post more pics when time comes.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 16, 2009, 06:01:35 PM
Grazie Giorgio !
i told you i was willing to do it ! ... eh eh eh eh.. here's the result !

Cheers

Davide


Great job Davide.
I'm very happy for your result.
Ciao
Giorgio.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on February 16, 2009, 06:15:25 PM
HEY ... if anybody has sources for light wirebulbs rated 5 - 12 and 24 Vdc I could also provide different voltage's boards.

I'm using 5Vdc for backliting and would like to use 24Vdc for legends .... but then if that kind of bulb is unfoundable i will do with 5Vdc !

some specs:
lenght: no more than 6 mm
diameter: no more than 3 mm

Cheers
Hi Davide!

I have a load of white wire bulbs at home I'm not using.

I've decided to make it simplier in my pit and only have Mike's backlight EL sheet.
No more assle between white and green panels light.

I'll have to check what is the rating. I think they are 5 volts.
Let me get back to you with the numbers I have and their specs...

And promess it will be very cheap!
As in 50% of what I paid them for. ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 16, 2009, 06:17:14 PM
Thanks Mate,
i appreciate !
let me know ... picture of what i'm actually using in attachment.

Davide


HEY ... if anybody has sources for light wirebulbs rated 5 - 12 and 24 Vdc I could also provide different voltage's boards.

I'm using 5Vdc for backliting and would like to use 24Vdc for legends .... but then if that kind of bulb is unfoundable i will do with 5Vdc !

some specs:
lenght: no more than 6 mm
diameter: no more than 3 mm

Cheers
Hi Davide!

I have a load of white wire bulbs at home I'm not using.

I've decided to make it simplier in my pit and only have Mike's backlight EL sheet.
No more assle between white and green panels light.

I'll have to check what is the rating. I think they are 5 volts.
Let me get back to you with the numbers I have and their specs...

And promess it will be very cheap!
As in 50% of what I paid them for. ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Killn on February 17, 2009, 01:40:33 AM
Dam!  :o  Very nice Davide!   :beer: 
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: heines on February 17, 2009, 03:00:15 AM
very nice work those are some nice pcb's

when i look at those things it bring back nice memory's

i did patched those pcb for a printer company, everyhing msd and leaded free.

keep up the good work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: michel84 on February 17, 2009, 05:20:02 AM
"Kickass" those are real PRO :thumbsup:

I surely whant to get my hands on one of them when available.
awesome!!!!!!

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on February 17, 2009, 05:30:18 AM
Hey Davide!
Great job, mate! How hard will it be to make one for the MLU panel? All it needs is the display mount section and the ribbon connector. It will need two rows of displays also.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on February 17, 2009, 07:59:06 AM
Hey Strale!
Its a PBC for the EWMU like this here:
(http://www.kukki.dk/test/ewmu-1.jpg)
(http://www.kukki.dk/test/ewmu-2.jpg)
(http://www.kukki.dk/test/ew-back.jpg)
(http://www.kukki.dk/test/ew-osram.jpg)

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on February 17, 2009, 11:01:10 AM
That's it alright, beautiful, Kukki!! Wow. Davide, you would have three sold right away to me, Lightning and Chris. Probably more.
Hey Kukki!! Can you measure the height of the display matrices? They should be like 5mm and 4.5mm maybe?
Thanks
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on February 17, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
Davide
I would be happy with a double row of SLG2016's.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 17, 2009, 01:26:18 PM
Hi,
reading your posts on the MLU Counter Measure Panel ....
I'm not very familiar with this baby ! making a special PCB for that should not be so difficult even if probably the layout has to be chanced a while.
I mean ... the flat cable connector is something I can't really find out .... i'd rather to replace it with a 20 pins IDC connector
As it was made for the PCB replacement for the CMDS ... i think that the job can be done but:
a) I need to know if all the 8 display has to be interfaced (actually and talking about the only interfacing board i'm using EF) you can drive 4 display each port ...
Are the info available on the SH ? which rows shows info ?
b) I need the complete panel to make the work ! that's due to the fact that the real display is smaller than the SLG2016 ... just a bit ... but that Fuc#ing bit that can make the difference when you put it inside the panel !
c) I need more some info about what's displayed and where.
d) Can you live with TWO connectors ? one for the upper row and one for the lower one ?

Probably it's better to open another thread on this matter ... what do you think ?

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on February 17, 2009, 02:26:40 PM
Davide
GREAT idea, I will move this to the MLU thread that Ded Dog started. We'll go over everything. Thanks for your help!!!
The MLU Team
(there isn't one, I just made that up)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 18, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
Hmmmmm
what about this ??? eh eh eh eh



Don't look at the capacitors as they are a little bit overdimensioned ... still waiting the right one to be delivered .... but i couldn't stay in my skin to have a try on it !

Take a look also at the connectors soldered pins .. to avoid to interfere with the panek i kept the pins just above the pcb so they don't come too much out of it.







Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: AiRdAncE on February 20, 2009, 05:14:35 AM
Very nice !!!  :hail:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Feathers on February 20, 2009, 10:46:35 AM
Davide,
You're doing some awesome work.  GREAT JOB!
The people on this site never cease to amaze me with what they can do. 
Jim
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 22, 2009, 10:53:40 AM
Thanks Jim !
hey .... where have you been during last months ??

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 22, 2009, 10:54:50 AM
Kurt,
is the "BRIGHTNESS" knob controlling the brightness of the PANEL or the Display's VCC ?

Thanks
Davide


Hey Strale!
Its a PBC for the EWMU like this here:
[
Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on February 22, 2009, 11:04:52 AM
Kurt,
is the "BRIGHTNESS" knob controlling the brightness of the PANEL or the Display's VCC ?

Thanks
Davide


Hey Strale!
Its a PBC for the EWMU like this here:
[
Kukki

It must be the display vcc.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 22, 2009, 12:04:32 PM
Hi Kurt,
that will be a problem !
I mean ... usual VCC for OSRAM in
MIN VCC 4.5 Vdc
MAX VCC 5.5 Vdc
USUAL VCC 5.0 Vdc,

I don't think that a difference 0.5 Vdc would result as a noticeable dimming .....
Probably the knob won't be usable.

Cheers

Davide


Kurt,
is the "BRIGHTNESS" knob controlling the brightness of the PANEL or the Display's VCC ?

Thanks
Davide


Hey Strale!
Its a PBC for the EWMU like this here:
[
Kukki

It must be the display vcc.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: sugarmate on February 22, 2009, 12:42:58 PM
Hi Kurt,
that will be a problem !
I mean ... usual VCC for OSRAM in
MIN VCC 4.5 Vdc
MAX VCC 5.5 Vdc
USUAL VCC 5.0 Vdc,

I don't think that a difference 0.5 Vdc would result as a noticeable dimming .....
Probably the knob won't be usable.

Cheers

Davide


The display can be dimmed by pulse width modulating the
BL (pin 12) at a frequency sufficiently fast to not interfere with the
internal clock. The dimming signal frequency should be 2.5
KHz or higher. Dimming the display also reduces power consumption.

(quote from the datasheet - it even has a small 555-based circuit for the dimming)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on February 22, 2009, 12:54:13 PM
Wow guys now we are talking.
Personally I dont care if I can dimm the osrams.
But if its easy done I like it to do. If not then NP.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 22, 2009, 04:18:13 PM
YES,
it can be done ....
one 555, two capacitors, one resistor and a variable resistor (pot)
probably the pot has to be changed .... Kurt .. can you check the real pot's value ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 14, 2009, 07:04:37 PM
WOW GENTS !
Today i spent the whole afternoon soldering displays, capacitors, lamps and connectors ...
made 2 boards for Mates that ordered them and then made my OWN board !

It took a while as the REAL PANEL has to be slightly modified .... unfortunately i was so kept by the job
that i didn't  take any pictures ....
but then ... as you know OSRAMS are a little bit greater than the original displays ... and i had to make some
"dremelling" on the back of the panel where the displays go .... there are 4 small rised areas that i had to take away....  about 10 minutes of work !

then i placed the PCB inside and "click - clack" it went into position !

From the BACK - don't look at the wires ... i decided this solution for me ! the other boards will have a 10 pin header !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/REAL/P1010059.jpg)

Interfaced and running !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/REAL/P1010060-1.jpg)

I hope you will enjoy as i did !

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on March 14, 2009, 07:08:03 PM
Great Work, Strale!!!
 :thumbsup:

It is so pleasant to see our pit comes to life little by little.
 :vprules:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on March 15, 2009, 02:44:07 PM
And NOW
completely assembled !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010069.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010066.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010067.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/P1010065.jpg)

Another step ahead !

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 17, 2009, 05:55:29 PM
And THIS is my NEWEST TOY !

of course i still didn't loose the hope to have analogue instruments interfaced with the SIM ....
soon i'll start a Try on a special interfacing board ... and let's hope to be successfull !

The only slight difference from the F-160s one is the Flag on the "MILES" counter .... but can live with it !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Instruments/P1010025.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Instruments/P1010024.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Instruments/P1010026.jpg)

I was told that this unit is BRAND NEW and never installed on an a/c .....

Cheers all and glad to share my happiness with You all !

Davide

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Dunk on April 17, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
Davide, Do the CRS and HDG knobs light up?

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 18, 2009, 05:45:59 AM
Hi Dunk,
nope .... they don't light up ....
Cheers


Davide, Do the CRS and HDG knobs light up?


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: TOR on April 18, 2009, 12:52:35 PM
Hi Strale!

Niiice catch... and trust me - I?m happy with you all the way.

Now, get it to work properly  ;)

GUN
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Thumper 2 on April 30, 2009, 01:10:57 AM
Hi Davide

Just been reading through your whole progress report. One word, AWSOME!!!!!. You have really done your project credit.

  REFERENCES, DIMENSIONS, All my Christmas's would be coming at once!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

    Regards "Goosebumps"
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 15, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
THIRD PAGE !!!!  :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
Ok i deserve it ! ....  but now updating my thread with a GREAT NEW !!! (at least for me !!!)

After some months i decided to finish the project of interfacing the real TQS .....
i had several troubles in the past months that were leading me to the conclusion that it was
almost impossible ... or TOO HARD for me ....
I were experiencing troubles with the trimming of the Axis (MR and AE) and there was no chance to have a good
signal on the Radar Cursor ...

Then i decided to begin again .....
i found a 34 pin breakout board and cutted the CRAPPY connections i made on a flat 34 pin

What YOU NEED:
Of course a Real F-16 TQS
like this one:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010061.jpg)

then you need
Jay's Proto Board
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010065.jpg)

a 34 Pin breakout pcb
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010062.jpg)

and the Electronic board that you'll have to gut out from your Courgar's Throttle !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010073.jpg)

After many attempts and hours passed with a small screwdriver and a multimeter
i finally was able to obtain the desider value from the AE, MR and RC ..... so i hooked all together
and fired for first HOTAS CCP, then Foxy and last but not least Falcon

I also added a pot for the throttle following Kukki's Idea (Thanks MATE !!!) unfortunately i wasn't able
to install the Hall Sensor due to the angle's limitation (90? max)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010069.jpg)

First result was GOOD for MR and AE .... but i was experiencing a strange behaviour with the RC ....
the Y axis was running quite well .... the X axis was giving a 45? movement instead an orizzontal one ...
OH DAMN ..... Bad Transducers ???

just a quick check on the 34 pin breackout board and i realized that i was mixing up the SIGNAL with the VIN
quick change .., recalibration and
WOW !!! running SMOOTH and FINALLY STRAIGHT !!!!!

then i decided to mount the throttle in the trainer .... (DAMN GUYS .... fixing the base to the ribs is really a painfull job !!!! really tight space to move tools ..... and lot of time to make a good job !) I think that without a REAL TRAINER (with the right dimensions and predrilled holes) aligning the throttle with the guide rail should be very time consuming and i very suggest to ask help from some friend when you do it !!!! doing it alone it could be impossible !

but finally here's the result ! (

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010066.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010067.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010068.jpg)


NOW i can say i'm an HAPPY OWNER of an "INTEGRATED" REAL F-16 TQS
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on August 16, 2009, 01:48:02 AM
AWESOME, Davide!
Wow, that is great. You are getting closer and closer to flying that baby. Lining up my new Dunk throttle gate is my next project!
I am grateful for the pics, I will be watching you.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 23, 2009, 12:36:15 PM
Hi Guys,
some more work on the pit !
today i finished the rewiring of the EPU PANEL
also changed all the 24Vdc lamps with 5Vdc and rewired with two db9 connector
(one for lamps and one for switch)

Want to share with you a couple of picture.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/EPU/P1010074.jpg)

when ligthed for the first time i realized the very special EPU RUN indicator ...
really different against every other i saw ....
probably it's due to the fact that this is an NVG panel

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/EPU/P1010080.jpg)

Now ... back to the pit and hook the wires to the EFFLUX and GAMMARAY !

Cheers all !

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on August 23, 2009, 10:10:36 PM
Hey Davide!
Looks fantastic, mate. I have a question. I too am mounting my throttle and it is extremely difficult. Is the throttle gate vertical to the waterline? Or does it lean at an angle? Is it parallel with the side console or the side wall? The front of mine is directly over the ALT GEAR handle and I think it should be farther outboard. I am really fighting this because it has to be just right as you say or it wont work.
Thanks
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Raysot on August 24, 2009, 02:36:47 AM
Where are you guys getting those dot-matric LED displays? I've tried everywhere!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/CMDS/REAL/P1010060-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: jrsteensen on August 24, 2009, 03:00:09 AM
Digikey - SLG2016 Displays.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 24, 2009, 05:54:03 AM
Thanks Dave !!!
as per the throttle's gate:
difficult to say .... but i may say it's vertical to the waterline.
And it follows the side wall.
If you have the real sidewall you'll notice the holes that mounts it on the throttle's rail you may take them for reference
Aren't your ribs drilled in the side to allow the gate mounts ?
As per the position with the Alt Gear reference ... have a look at mine first picture ... that's the position.

If i were you i'd try this way
a) mount the throttle _(you should have the holes on the ribs.
b) mount the sidewall panel
c) slide the throttle's gate between the ribs
d) hold in place with a couple of clamps
e) check position and sign the hole's references on the ribs
f) drill and mount.

Cheers

 

Hey Davide!
Looks fantastic, mate. I have a question. I too am mounting my throttle and it is extremely difficult. Is the throttle gate vertical to the waterline? Or does it lean at an angle? Is it parallel with the side console or the side wall? The front of mine is directly over the ALT GEAR handle and I think it should be farther outboard. I am really fighting this because it has to be just right as you say or it wont work.
Thanks
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 24, 2009, 05:58:44 AM
Yesterday evening i made some wiring on the pit.
damn .. i didn't remember how time consuming is this operation.
actually i hooked
Ld Gear Panel
Lg Gear Handle
Mpo
JSF
Elec
Epu
Fuel Master
I hope soon to be able to post a video of them working with F4
I made a couple of flight with full Hotas working and DAMN GUYS !!!
all the efforts and time i spent on this are surely WORTH !!!!

Cheers all ... to the next update.


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Raysot on August 24, 2009, 06:43:32 PM
Digikey - SLG2016 Displays.

My next dumb question:
These definitely aren't your typical ganged or multiplexed displays (Using EPICUSB for primary sim interface)

How are these driven? Using a PIC? 
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on August 24, 2009, 09:33:54 PM
Digikey - SLG2016 Displays.

My next dumb question:
These definitely aren't your typical ganged or multiplexed displays (Using EPICUSB for primary sim interface)

How are these driven? Using a PIC? 
Strale is using the Beta Innovations's cards to interface these OSRAM.
But I think that the PHCC is working hard to try and interface them.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 25, 2009, 02:55:32 AM
I completely quote 101-doux on this !
He's right i'm driving them with Betainnovaion's Efflux
but for sure someone soon will develop the code to drive them also with PHCC i've no doubt on this ! Probably it will take some time... but as unfortunately (and VERY SADLY) Betainnovations closed the "shop" .... PHCC seem the only way to go !
There probably might be some other solution ... but lot of programming is needed

Cheers

Davide


Digikey - SLG2016 Displays.

My next dumb question:
These definitely aren't your typical ganged or multiplexed displays (Using EPICUSB for primary sim interface)

How are these driven? Using a PIC? 
Strale is using the Beta Innovations's cards to interface these OSRAM.
But I think that the PHCC is working hard to try and interface them.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on August 25, 2009, 10:51:53 PM
Yesterday evening i made some wiring on the pit.
damn .. i didn't remember how time consuming is this operation.
actually i hooked
Ld Gear Panel
Lg Gear Handle
Mpo
JSF
Elec
Epu
Fuel Master
I hope soon to be able to post a video of them working with F4
I made a couple of flight with full Hotas working and DAMN GUYS !!!
all the efforts and time i spent on this are surely WORTH !!!!

Cheers all ... to the next update.

WNV!!! (We Need Video)
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Killratio on August 26, 2009, 12:24:17 AM
Looking great Davide..and congrats on getting the throttle up and running..still wrestling with mine!

cheers

Darryl
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on August 26, 2009, 03:27:23 AM
Darryl
What's the problem? Maybe we can help.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on August 31, 2009, 05:20:24 AM
Guys,
tonight i was up till 02:00 am programming switches and outputs on the PIT.
I finally mounted the UCC (for the Real Speed Brake indicator) and GRV2, EFFLUX, Efflux Lite, Aircore Board and Pwm for gauges's backligthing.

still to find some lightbits and to solve the problem with the landing gear handle solenoid !!
here I've a BIG TROUBLE !!! is there anybody out there that succesfully interfaced it ? and HOW ?
I have Beta Innovations's stuff and gave an output to the solenoid with "check main" and set a flag on the imput
of the white pushbutton.

Probably i burned one of the LOHV64 output as the solenoid stay always active after first imput !

Any suggestions ? i was willing to avoid to leave the solenoid directly connected to the power (then activated trough the pushbutton) 'cause it would act even when power is not present on the sim
(hope it makes sense !)

Hope to be able to post a video soon !

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2009, 04:03:43 PM
Hi All !

just a quick update
TEST and AVIONICS panel are rewired. Just need to make the harnesses from the panels to the Beta Innovations's stuff !

but i was willing to show something .....
Hope You'll enjoy it ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgipiOSwMtM

and another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPU072Ieqvc
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 06, 2009, 05:04:27 PM
Planned for next week !

- Get definetely RID of the weird behavour of the landing gear handle solenoid hooking it as
Direct Output on a DO10-RE5 board (each time hooked to a LoHv64 it burned the output !!!
- Swapping again the lamp on the EPU Run indicator (i swapped with a 5Vdc but the the intensity is too low .... back to 24 Vdc. !
- Wiring the harness for the Avionics Panel, Test Panel and SNSR Power Panel
- Hopefully Installing and configuring them in the PIT

Cheers


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on September 07, 2009, 12:05:50 AM
Davide,
Didn't you read that same problem that Pete had? You posted about it if I remember. You need a N4001 diode across the +/- of the solenoid and it will stop doing the spike. I will try to find the post, I am sure it's in his build thread.
Best,
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on September 07, 2009, 03:43:53 AM
Marvellous.  :cheerleader:
Thanks for sharing. Giorgio
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on September 07, 2009, 04:03:28 AM
Davide,
Didn't you read that same problem that Pete had? You posted about it if I remember. You need a N4001 diode across the +/- of the solenoid and it will stop doing the spike. I will try to find the post, I am sure it's in his build thread.
Best,
Nigel

it helped on all mine, and have no problem, but I also tested my solenoid with 10-12 vdc, and no problem.

Strale your pit is GREAT, I whis I had a metal trainer too, but I  hope Ill have one some day.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 07, 2009, 05:19:33 AM
Hi Dave,
i missed to write that i installed the diode ....
unfortunately even with the diode it's a NO GO for me !
i think that it's not a matter of kick back but it's due to the draw of the solenoid .... i've no way to measure it but probably it's more than 1A !!!! otherwise i can't find any other problem.

the solution i will adopt is to hook the solenoid to a relay on the DO10-RE5 board as direct output. And putting a flag on the gammaray input (the switch on the handle) so when the button is pressed the relay close the circuit and gives currrent to the solenoid... the relay are rated 12 A @ 125 Vac, 10A @28 V.... and for sure the solenoid can't deaw that amount fo current !


Davide,
Didn't you read that same problem that Pete had? You posted about it if I remember. You need a N4001 diode across the +/- of the solenoid and it will stop doing the spike. I will try to find the post, I am sure it's in his build thread.
Best,
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 07, 2009, 05:29:00 AM
Strange that nobody asked me HOW i made the FLCS Test working .....

Well it's only a "trick" .... as you know the function is not implemented in Falcon .... as you know i'm using Beta Innovations's stuff and the only issue i can see on those boards is that, as far what i know, you can't give custom variable to the output (i.e. lamp on for 45 seconds)
So as the FLCS test is run only during Ramp Start i made it this way:

The RUN lgiht is switch ON only when the BIT's switch is in ON position
The coil of the switch is active only if RPM is lower than 75%
just a hit on the throttle and the coil of the switch deactivate .....

it's only Eye.candy .... but i like it !


@LIGHTNING
as soon as you have time can you check F4IM's SDK if there's a way to monitor elapsed time from an action and if there's the Change to have lights Blinking ??

Cheers all
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: lightning on September 07, 2009, 07:40:00 AM
Strange that nobody asked me HOW i made the FLCS Test working .....
...
@LIGHTNING
as soon as you have time can you check F4IM's SDK if there's a way to monitor elapsed time from an action and if there's the Change to have lights Blinking ??
If you're using the Beta Innovations SDK, you can programmatically make the hardware do just about anything it's physically capable of doing (i.e. turning things on and off). You could write some quick code to read from the physical input device and watch for the FLCS TEST input to come on, then during a certain time period after that, blink the lights. 
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 07, 2009, 08:03:25 AM
Quote
If you're using the Beta Innovations SDK, you can programmatically make the hardware do just about anything it's physically capable of doing (i.e. turning things on and off). You could write some quick code to read from the physical input device and watch for the FLCS TEST input to come on, then during a certain time period after that, blink the lights.  

eh eh eh eh .... Dave ..... ask me to open a control box ... remove the HW ... rewire it .... hooking it to a board and programming with a good GUI and i'm OK ..... working on codes well ... it's not one thing i feel confortable .... LOL .... it would be nice that someone could put his talented hands (and brain) on the SDK to make things more realistics ...
I mean ... the RUN on the FLCS panel works for 45 seconds ... ok ...
but there are lamps (during ramp start) that blinks .... either on the 5module 10 function and on the Caution Panel too, if i'm not wrong also the EPI RUN light comes on during ramp start .... (checked on the ramp start you can see on Youtube) .... this is something that would add a lot of realism .....but then .... i'll try to have a look

Thanks
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Wolfman on September 07, 2009, 12:06:35 PM
fantastic video :thumbsup:. And I almost thought you had attached a system simulator for the FLCS test. You're a great tour guide with an extraordinary pit  :hail:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on September 07, 2009, 06:52:02 PM
Blinking lights...thats why we are all doing this, right?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on September 07, 2009, 08:36:38 PM
Strange that nobody asked me HOW i made the FLCS Test working .....

Well it's only a "trick" .... as you know the function is not implemented in Falcon .... as you know i'm using Beta Innovations's stuff and the only issue i can see on those boards is that, as far what i know, you can't give custom variable to the output (i.e. lamp on for 45 seconds)
So as the FLCS test is run only during Ramp Start i made it this way:

The RUN lgiht is switch ON only when the BIT's switch is in ON position
The coil of the switch is active only if RPM is lower than 75%
just a hit on the throttle and the coil of the switch deactivate .....

it's only Eye.candy .... but i like it !

@LIGHTNING
as soon as you have time can you check F4IM's SDK if there's a way to monitor elapsed time from an action and if there's the Change to have lights Blinking ??
Cheers all
Davide
I am going to pontificate a little here, so bear with me. You have progressed really far in your pit and it looks awesome. The videos are what really gives you some idea of the experience of a working pit and I along with everyone else REALLY appreciate you taking the time to post. My point is that making a part of the pit light up that doesn't have a callback or equivalent in F4 is not "just eye candy". It is as equally important as anything else in the pit. Some of the pits that are almost done here have quite a few things that aren't functional but they sure look great and add a lot to the immersion. So I hope everyone keeps getting obsessed with the small details that really make a pit look as complex and fascinating as a real Viper. A good example is String2054 making the canopy pin receivers. Things like the Wolfman radio project. Red Dog's insane spyder. The wrist rests from Pegasus, the list goes on and on. Your "just eye candy" is worth all the time and effort. I mean this for everyone really. Especially the guys that build parts from scratch. The things people come up with still amazes me. I hope the guys like Muddog stay with it. Another great thing about VP is that for the most part, everyone contributes their strong points and helps the other guys with their weak points. Guys that code help those that cant and guys that fabricate help those that might cut off their thumbs. The only thing that causes problems is greed and ego. Just like RL. Hehehehe
  Enough of my sermon. Great job.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Dunk on September 08, 2009, 12:48:31 AM
HEY HEY HEy! quit talking about me,  :taz: and BTW it wasn't my thumb.  ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 08, 2009, 04:02:57 PM
Dave ... you're too kind to me ! but THANKS ! I appreciate ....

now .... let's tell something that shouln't be told:

Just a "massive" exe edit would make the trick !!!
or someone that put his hands on the prog's code to emulate what we need !!! (i really miss the chance to put custom variables in our interfacing programs ...)
but one day i'm sure we'll be successfull !!!

As you told there are lots of "maniacs" here .... some times i heard them called "geek" .... Ok .... sometimes i'm proud to be a geek ! LOL

and as usual My HAT is OFF in front of pits of others pitbuilders that achieved my same results but without the LUCK i had to find the real parts .... (i once told it.. THEY are the real pitbuilders ....)

Let's hope in future developments to make our sims "like" the real DEAL ... and i'm sure that one day it will happen !

Do anybody recall the times in which we were saying "Extracting the MFDs and HUD ??? IMPOSSIBLE due to software limits" ..

Well ..... it has done ! thanks to Lightning ....

Cheers



Strange that nobody asked me HOW i made the FLCS Test working .....

Well it's only a "trick" .... as you know the function is not implemented in Falcon .... as you know i'm using Beta Innovations's stuff and the only issue i can see on those boards is that, as far what i know, you can't give custom variable to the output (i.e. lamp on for 45 seconds)
So as the FLCS test is run only during Ramp Start i made it this way:

The RUN lgiht is switch ON only when the BIT's switch is in ON position
The coil of the switch is active only if RPM is lower than 75%
just a hit on the throttle and the coil of the switch deactivate .....

it's only Eye.candy .... but i like it !

@LIGHTNING
as soon as you have time can you check F4IM's SDK if there's a way to monitor elapsed time from an action and if there's the Change to have lights Blinking ??
Cheers all
Davide
I am going to pontificate a little here, so bear with me. You have progressed really far in your pit and it looks awesome. The videos are what really gives you some idea of the experience of a working pit and I along with everyone else REALLY appreciate you taking the time to post. My point is that making a part of the pit light up that doesn't have a callback or equivalent in F4 is not "just eye candy". It is as equally important as anything else in the pit. Some of the pits that are almost done here have quite a few things that aren't functional but they sure look great and add a lot to the immersion. So I hope everyone keeps getting obsessed with the small details that really make a pit look as complex and fascinating as a real Viper. A good example is String2054 making the canopy pin receivers. Things like the Wolfman radio project. Red Dog's insane spyder. The wrist rests from Pegasus, the list goes on and on. Your "just eye candy" is worth all the time and effort. I mean this for everyone really. Especially the guys that build parts from scratch. The things people come up with still amazes me. I hope the guys like Muddog stay with it. Another great thing about VP is that for the most part, everyone contributes their strong points and helps the other guys with their weak points. Guys that code help those that cant and guys that fabricate help those that might cut off their thumbs. The only thing that causes problems is greed and ego. Just like RL. Hehehehe
  Enough of my sermon. Great job.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Ka-Bar03 on September 08, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
Very cool vids Strale, your pit is looking great. So much working now!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on September 30, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
THIRD PAGE !!!!  :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
Ok i deserve it ! ....  but now updating my thread with a GREAT NEW !!! (at least for me !!!)

After some months i decided to finish the project of interfacing the real TQS .....
i had several troubles in the past months that were leading me to the conclusion that it was
almost impossible ... or TOO HARD for me ....
I were experiencing troubles with the trimming of the Axis (MR and AE) and there was no chance to have a good
signal on the Radar Cursor ...

Then i decided to begin again .....
i found a 34 pin breakout board and cutted the CRAPPY connections i made on a flat 34 pin

What YOU NEED:
Of course a Real F-16 TQS
like this one:


then you need
Jay's Proto Board
(http://http:a 34 Pin breakout pcb[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010062.jpg)

and the Electronic board that you'll have to gut out from your Courgar's Throttle !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/HOTAS/P1010073.jpg)

After many attempts and hours passed with a small screwdriver and a multimeter
i finally was able to obtain the desider value from the AE, MR and RC ..... so i hooked all together
and fired for first HOTAS CCP, then Foxy and last but not least Falcon

I also added a pot for the throttle following Kukki's Idea (Thanks MATE !!!) unfortunately i wasn't able
to install the Hall Sensor due to the angle's limitation (90? max)
[im

First result was GOOD for MR and AE .... but i was experiencing a strange behaviour with the RC ....
the Y axis was running quite well .... the X axis was giving a 45? movement instead an orizzontal one ...
OH DAMN ..... Bad Transducers ???

just a quick check on the 34 pin breackout board and i realized that i was mixing up the SIGNAL with the VIN
quick change .., recalibration and
WOW !!! running SMOOTH and FINALLY STRAIGHT !!!!!

then i decided to mount the throttle in the trainer .... (DAMN GUYS .... fixing the base to the ribs is really a painfull job !!!! really tight space to move tools ..... and lot of time to make a good job !) I think that without a REAL TRAINER (with the right dimensions and predrilled holes) aligning the throttle with the guide rail should be very time consuming and i very suggest to ask help from some friend when you do it !!!! doing it alone it could be impossible !

but finally here's the result ! (



NOW i can say i'm an HAPPY OWNER of an "INTEGRATED" REAL F-16 TQS

Davide
Can you make pics of the final wiring? I want to verify how I have the two boards wired together and your DC  power connection. This would be a big help, mate!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 11, 2009, 04:00:38 PM
Hi Guys ... are you ready for another update ???

ok .. here we are !

I'm sorry that probably my video will look always the same but as the jobs to do are REALLY INSANE it takes a lot of time to set up everything !

I've still some issues with the Test Panel ... but i hope to solve them quickly !

What was implemented from the last time ?
Mainly the interfacing of the Ligthing Panel (for the sidewall lamps and the instruments lights)
The AIR-COND (unfortunately i missed to switch the air-cond ON during the video so you won't hear the FAN noise)
and FINALLY the damned Landing Gear Solenoid ! (used one relay of the D010-RE5 Beta Innovations's board) to interface it ... it's so simple to deal with those boards that i took more time to extend the cables and wiring them to the board than setting it ! But NOW i'm not burning any output and the it's working like a charm !
How's interfaced ?? the solenoid is directly hooked to the ground of the 24Vdc supplier then the positive is cutted by the relay .... a simple "condition" (apply power when switch is pressed but check main power) made the rest

Enjoy the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3CL3n0VhQ
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on October 11, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Very cool video!!! :thumbsup:
Now you will have to give more details on that test BIT light and mag switch.

It looks way cool!

Keep it up. ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 11, 2009, 05:08:48 PM
Stephane,
just explained in a previous post ....
until we'll have a "time count" i tricked it only for the Ramp Start operation.
I set the output to be ON if RPM is under 85 % ..... you can't see but i gave a hit on the throttle
to disengage it ....
Hope soon to see a "time function" on USIM and some more flavours

Davide

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on October 11, 2009, 06:37:18 PM
Stephane,
just explained in a previous post ....
until we'll have a "time count" i tricked it only for the Ramp Start operation.
I set the output to be ON if RPM is under 85 % ..... you can't see but i gave a hit on the throttle
to disengage it ....
Hope soon to see a "time function" on USIM and some more flavours

Davide
Ha! Genious...

Then why not put it at 70%, that way it will turn off on it's own?

Of course having a timer, it would be much easier.
When you hit that Mag switch, the light will turn on and lock the mag switch for 45 seconds.
That would be cool.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Raysot on October 12, 2009, 02:08:45 AM
Your F16 is amazing! :yihaw:

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on October 12, 2009, 08:48:42 AM
Great Vid Strale.
And your pit and Nigel?s is awesome. I hope I someday can cut the nose of one of the F16?s we are dumping here in Denmark i the future.

Keep the nide pics and Vids comming mate.

Ill give you  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on October 12, 2009, 08:54:14 AM
Marvellous!
Giorgio
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: ShockWave on February 01, 2010, 10:46:34 PM
Fantastic work Strale!! :thumbsup: :beer:

Very inspirational.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 12, 2010, 12:29:41 PM
SMALL but important update !
sorry i can't show any picture for the time being !

I received and installed Martin's PFD and yesterday i got also the DED .... damn guys ! Those "toys" are really AWESOME !

b.t.w. anyone having a REAL right GS and so kind to make a template of the mounting holes so that i can install the DED ??

SOLVED

Actually the SIM is not operational due to a failure on the +12/-12Vdc supplier used to "excite" the strain gauges on the SSC !
(damn ... it seems that these suppliers are really "fragile") bought another TWO to keep one as spare ....


RESTORED

Pictures and video as soon as possible !

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: bismond on February 12, 2010, 02:03:12 PM
Nice vid.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 22, 2010, 03:43:56 AM
Just to show that i'm not "still"

Yesterday i finally finishes to mount the MFD's bezels !
Damn ... i didn't figure how they would have improved the feeling !
had not time to take some pictures and still have to mount the anti-glare glasses and the two 6.8" monitors .... hope to be able to do it soon.

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 22, 2010, 05:23:28 PM
Guys...
i wasn't able to refrain !!!!!
Indeed the iPhone is just not the best camera ever ... but didn't have a better one handy !

MFD Installed... and ... TA DA !!!!
Ah .... real antiglare glasses were installed too ... (they're nice ... and they will protect the TfT displays)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine003.jpg)

DED Installed... and ... TA DA !!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine006.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine008.jpg)


PFD Installed ... and ... TA DA !!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine017.jpg)

a bunch of pictures .... ok ... still the same .. but i Love them !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine007.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine019.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/Immagine018.jpg)


Hope You'll Enjoy !!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: magoo on February 23, 2010, 12:51:08 AM
...hat off to you Davide  your pit is one of the most important reference ...

I can't wait that arrives also my "TA DA" moment.... ;)

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on February 23, 2010, 02:44:07 AM
WOW Strale!
That pit looks sooooo nice and REAL  :thumbsup:

BTW. that right eyebrow you are welcome to sent my way  :harhar:

Keep up the very good work there Strale, and when you put in those two tft for the mfd and power those up, the pit will look awsome, and thats only the first step to get airborne.

Kukki

And the pics from iphone is very good.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: nightowl on February 23, 2010, 06:53:35 PM
Thanks for the update Strale.

Your pit is looking fantastic and is one of the most realistic around.

Its a real treat following your progress and have to agree with Magoo that your pit is a constant reference for many of us.

Keep up the great work. :thumbsup:

cheers
nightowl
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 25, 2010, 10:18:34 AM
Kurt,

hope you're kidding !! eh eh eh eh eh .... You won't never pictures youre self
how the  :firedevil: costed me that assy ! .......
naaaaah more thand that ! Dude ! .....eh eh eh eh

Thanks kurt ... your words are always motivating !!!!


BTW. that right eyebrow you are welcome to sent my way  :harhar:

Kukki

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on February 25, 2010, 10:40:59 AM
 :thumbsup: got you  :yihaw: :yihaw: :yihaw:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 18, 2010, 12:11:24 PM
Hallo Gents !

Some new pictures to show you the progresses.

as told MFDs installed, interfaced and RUNNING ! what an achievement !

Ok .. really nothing to do with MFDs.. but I really LOVE this section !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/P1010070.jpg)

Overall Sight
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/P1010058.jpg)

LEFT MFD with FLASH
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/P1010067.jpg)

and Without Flash
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/P1010066.jpg)

RIGHT MFD with FLASH
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/P1010068.jpg)

and without !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/Cockpit/P1010069.jpg)

Hope You will enjoy them as I did !
I also installed the AOA and NWS indexer ... AOA is runnign Fine .... NWS have to open it again as one connection
is faulty ! i'll see !

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on April 18, 2010, 01:11:12 PM
Wow Strale, that pit looks awsome.
Great work on the mfd?s, and those 2 screens make a lot of a BIG difference when you fly.  :thumbsup:

Great Pics, and let em comming.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 18, 2010, 01:17:25 PM
Thanks for Your always kind words Kurt !
i just spent few minutes to check what was not working on the NWS indexer .. and found it !
A loose solder at the RDY negative lead ...

Just remade it and .... running !

Now i'll be back in the garage and will mount it !

I'm charging the battery of my camera ... maybe i'll be able to post a video soon.

Cheers

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Red Dog on April 18, 2010, 02:41:05 PM
That's a huge milestone Davide, Well done
Kukki is right those two screen will change your tempo of pitbuilding :)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 18, 2010, 03:15:54 PM
Yes Olivier ... a Milestone really !
it took a while for me to find the time to do it ... but finally it's done !

now i'm trying to solve a trouble with Ayes empty shell and Martin's DED & PFD

Damn flying just with the ouside view and the HUD is really amazing !

but since i installed Ayes mod the DED and PFD don't show anything !
I'm amost sure that it's due to the 3Dckpart.dat file that's missing the DED and PFD lines
i need to make some experiments ......

I'll let you know

Davide
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: lightning on April 18, 2010, 05:54:40 PM
I'm amost sure that it's due to the 3Dckpart.dat file that's missing the DED and PFD lines
That is correct. 
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: 101-Douxx on April 18, 2010, 07:19:20 PM
Great work Davide!

That is one of my five top pit on VP.
WOW!
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on April 18, 2010, 08:07:59 PM
Yes Olivier ... a Milestone really !
it took a while for me to find the time to do it ... but finally it's done !

now i'm trying to solve a trouble with Ayes empty shell and Martin's DED & PFD

Damn flying just with the ouside view and the HUD is really amazing !

but since i installed Ayes mod the DED and PFD don't show anything !
I'm amost sure that it's due to the 3Dckpart.dat file that's missing the DED and PFD lines
i need to make some experiments ......

I'll let you know

Davide
Wow how do you fix that?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 19, 2010, 08:19:05 AM
Dave,
my thoughts were right and David confirmed them just when i was making experiments !
I just added the two lines to Ayes mod dat.
Launched the dedcapture in sim mode (just to check all was fine with the hardware) and when Lauchched F4 working again ! or at least so it seemed ! it was a very quick try !!! i'll report back as soon as i can !

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 08, 2010, 04:16:51 PM
Great Updates on my Pit !
now i can show:
Indexers,
DED
FFI
AOA
VVI and
MFDs.
PFD is installed too but still didn't interface the F-ACK button

Enjoy

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/?action=view&current=20100508184646.flv (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/?action=view&current=20100508184646.flv)
(better to save as object)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on May 08, 2010, 04:44:57 PM
Damn Strale, that video is awsome, and we are a bunch inhere there is about to have our dream fulfilled.

Congrats mate, great progress, and all those small gauges, screens moving as they supposed to is fantastic.
Now you just have to get in the air online with a squad.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on May 08, 2010, 04:55:51 PM
Great update Davide.
 :beer:
Kukki is right you have to fly...now ;D
Mine new DED is on the way...with a bunch of Jay-el :biggrin:
Ciao
G.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gus on May 08, 2010, 06:12:52 PM
Great vid and progress Davide.
Looking great
Gus
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 08, 2010, 06:14:03 PM
Thanks Guys ...
and yes .... probably it's time to fly ... but i'll wait until the end of the ICP add-on project
So i will finally able to work on the HUD too.

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on May 08, 2010, 06:29:22 PM
Davide
AWESOME job, mate!! You have a lot of stuff working and are getting closer to the end. WOW. I wish you had a speaker on the computer. Can you make another one with the audio on?
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Taipan on May 08, 2010, 06:41:35 PM
Sensational stuff Davide !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on May 09, 2010, 02:58:47 AM
Working with ICP and DED it's a big improvement. In my project was a milestone. A great impulse toward pitbuilding adventure.  :DOH:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 09, 2010, 07:53:17 AM
Holy Cow !
you're right ! .... i really don't have any clue on what happened !
I changed the computer (the previous one had a small Mb that didn't allow to mount the HD4850X2 video board)
and the audio went out ! All drivers are installed all seems to be fine but i can't hear anything !
Weird stuff!
I need to investigate !

Cheers

Davide
AWESOME job, mate!! You have a lot of stuff working and are getting closer to the end. WOW. I wish you had a speaker on the computer. Can you make another one with the audio on?
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Killratio on May 09, 2010, 10:38:10 AM
Great stuff Davide.

Isn't hunting down weird computer problems a pain in the asspadistra?


Darryl

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 14, 2010, 11:48:26 AM
Holy Cow ! More than 120 days since my last update !

Ok .... nothing really serious but i finally was able to Find what I was still missing from my Trainer !

Guess What ??? (nope sadly it's not the seat)

the Map&Stowage box !
so here it is my new baby !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010026-3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010025-5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010023-6.jpg)

just in the need of a fresh paint and then will be ready to be installed !

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: TOR on November 14, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
Multi bene  :thumbsup:

Do NOT paint it mate.... real stuff is always worn & used, and besides - the black stains will be underneath the DTU-panel anyway, all out of sight.

TOR
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on November 14, 2010, 05:29:27 PM
Leave it alone!! That box looks great! Hey, you know that it is from my trainer? That guy was selling all the parts that came from one of the Fam trainers that String, Lightning, myself and Valcor have. We all missed out on some of those parts, that is the only map box I have ever seen come up for sale so congrats to you. It looks like it is metal an d that is good because I can tell you from experience that the real ones are plastic that is not aging well. All of them are shrinking, discoloring and cracking badly. The replica from Shockwave or this one would be a better choice than a real one now that you can get the stickers from Aeyes.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: AJ212 on November 15, 2010, 08:29:28 PM
Strale,

...after more than 120 days searching for his map box finaly back in Action...  :harhar:  :lolsign:

...nice work  ;)

...I got ShockWave's map box! It's also a work of art and fits perfect!

 :vprules:

BR,
AJ212
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 23, 2010, 08:09:57 AM
Well still nothing interesting to show as the PIT is under maintenance ....
as i probably wrote somewhere i wasn't happy with the wiring ..... too many wires laying around and a mess in case of  maintenance .... so unplugged the panels and back to work !
this time will be the right time !

but i'm going to experiment something for the visual system !

just acquired two projectors .... one is DLP at 2650 ansi and one is LDC very bright at 4000 ansi !
tested resolution and i can PUMP THEM UP ......
then got also a MATROX TRIPLEHEAD2GO digital ...... and now enquiring a company for a small curved screen .... (damn just the software is something near 500 dollars...)
if i have interesting news i will let you know.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on November 23, 2010, 08:31:39 AM
Hey Strale, super update, and I can tell you that im at the same position, too messy wiring, problems with Arends powerboard for backlighting, but he is working on it, and some analog dimming boards too.

So not much at my side too.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on November 23, 2010, 09:49:50 AM
Well Kurt,
the wiring is of course one of the most important parts to plan carefully ! but of course
we're usually too excited to have things working that we don't take as much care as required to wire up correctly and to organize cables in harnesses (that's the better way to work with)

So as i really was tired to mess with all those flying cables i decided to work differently !
I prepared a box with the Gammaray and on two sides i will have about 20 db15 for imputs
then i'll make harnesses from the aircraft panels to the interfacing board .... something like Nigel did ..... i love his layout ....

then i'll work on the outputs ....

It will take some time .. but it is surely worth it.

Cheers


Hey Strale, super update, and I can tell you that im at the same position, too messy wiring, problems with Arends powerboard for backlighting, but he is working on it, and some analog dimming boards too.

So not much at my side too.

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Taipan on November 23, 2010, 03:00:59 PM
davide
Good luck with the curved screen, i hope you nail it.

Have you spoken to bhawthorne on this forum, and on fighterops forum, and also on the nthusim site ? He seems very knowledgeable on this

If you haven't seen nthusim, it is a piece of software designed to handle curved screen projection rather well. I think it is near impossible to do well unkess you managed the curvature because a conventional projector will distort. Maybe 2 wont distort so much - not sure, but i expect so.
T
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: lumper on November 24, 2010, 01:44:51 PM
Strale,

Look at this page, as it is Gene B's  solution to a collimated display:

http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html

it has some pictures and a video or two.

Lumper
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 28, 2011, 11:39:41 AM
Hi everybody !

well someone may ask ... "whare have you been so far" ??? I know ... i've been far from here for some time but during spare time i'm going on with my "re-wiring" phase !
YEP ! if you don't do it right the first time .... you probably will have to do it again !
And that's a BIG TRUTH !
So ..... i removed all the panels from the pit, all the electronic boards and all the mess of cable that i was hating so much .... and went for a more efficient and clean wiring !
So after having quite finished the imput box (only one located on the left front pit) i begun and finally ended to prepare the electronic box for output of the left side
I was able to find a quite suitable metal enclosure and fitted inside the Efflux expansion board with its interface, one LOHV-64 and one DO10-Re5 unit !
The most time consuming part of this is the wiring .... i know that it might have been done better ... but i'm quite happy with it !

Here the results. Just one more thing to do ! wiring the Relay ... but it will be done asap !

Here in the MIDDLE of the Job(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010052-3.jpg)



and here how it looks like today !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010053-3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010056-2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010054-2.jpg)

Now i'm making all the harnesses from the panels to the output box ! another very time consuming task !

Cheers everybody !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on April 28, 2011, 12:03:58 PM
Great work there Davide  :thumbsup:
It looks good  :thumbsup:
Wirring is good  :thumbsup:
and when it all funtion, all is good  :thumbsup:

one thing you are so spot on is "take your time and do the work proper the first time" or you will do it over again  :whistle:
been there some time now.

good progress, and soon my friend we will fly in the V-SKY  :whistle:

Kukki
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: MrBones on April 28, 2011, 12:13:15 PM
Nice and clean Davide.  :thumbsup:  This is one part of the pit work that I fear the most.  I don't wont to fry any expensive boards.

Mike
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on April 29, 2011, 04:18:09 AM
Nice one m8.
 ;)
I'm doing a woodworker  :roll:
Enjoy your wiring!
 :D
Giorgio
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on April 29, 2011, 06:39:27 AM
Looking good Davide!!! The wiring is the biggest part, for sure. But do a good job and you only do it once hehehe. Well worth it, mate.
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on April 29, 2011, 08:39:59 AM
The wiring is the biggest part, for sure. But do a good job and you only do it once

DAVE
damn if You're RIGHT !!!!! and I really hope that younger VP members can take good note of
these "HOLY WORDS"
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on May 01, 2011, 04:00:21 PM
Another update,
didn't show any picture before but in the last weeks i managed to finally finish the MISC panel !
I've been looking for a long time for the TFR pushbutton indicator but no chances to find the real deal ... so with a little patience and some mod i've been able to make my own one

and here it is !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010067.jpg)

If you look with some attention you can see also the ACTIVE / STDBY legend in the button ...
It's mounted in the pit just waiting to be hooked to the electronics boxes !

Then - as you probably read from the message I left on Nigel's Thread - i'm going to finish the small left glareshield.
I had made the AOA indexer support and now it's all ready out the small spot light for which i'm waiting some hints to avoid the power to run into the pit !

here some pictures of actual stage.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010072-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010073.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/P1010074.jpg)
sadly i miss one of those larger clamps and was forced to use an automotive one but it doesn't look so bad.

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on May 02, 2011, 02:09:17 AM
Nice clean job mate.
Very good.
G
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Tulkas on May 02, 2011, 02:38:23 AM
Great job and great pictures for reference. I am about to make my glareshields and this a big help.

Cheers

Tulkas
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on May 02, 2011, 05:02:00 AM
wow Davide!
Great achivement there, it looks sooo good.

Keep up the good work mate.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on May 02, 2011, 05:36:07 AM
Davide,
I have not yet hooked up my map lights, they are the only ones left. But Jay did it by using a nylon screw and a plastic washer. I bet he will post a tutorial if you ask him. Well, consider yourself asked, Jay!!!
Nigel
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 16, 2011, 06:02:56 PM
Ok,
after 13 YEARS OF HUNT ! a FRAUD that costed me 1.950 Dollars
I finally was able to acquire a REAL ACES II and it also seems to be in relative good conditions !

But as "everything" has always TWO FACES .... this was the GOOD NEWS and the quite bad new is that it's not
the one used on the F-16 but it's coming from an F-15 !

I kept this relative secret until today as You people know that moving this stuff around the world is not so easy ....
but .... working for a Logistics and Transportation Company sometimes has its flavours !
The Seat is actually laying in one  Italian Airport and on monday we'll check the documents and if all is fine
i'll be getting it in the middle of the week.

So guys ... HAPPY, EXCITED and PROUD i'm glad to introduce you:

MY ACES II

Front View
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/frontseat.jpg)

Right Side View
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/rightseat.jpg)

Left Side View
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/leftsideseat.jpg)

Back View
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/rearseat.jpg)

Of course i'm firmly decided to modify it to the F-16 style ... so
i found the kneeguards (and they're on the way to me)
I'm in the need to find the FRONT LOWER PANEL 'cause probably i will have to make some works there too
but can't tell anything till i have it in my hands.

Guys .... i'm HAPPY ! now i can declare the HUNT FOR PARTS - CLOSED FOREVER ! (well .... let's hope nobody steal it from the airport... LOL)

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Killratio on September 16, 2011, 09:45:29 PM
Congratulations Davide!!!!


The Holy Grail...... :biggrin: :beer: :cheerleader:



Darryl
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Lento on September 17, 2011, 02:06:24 AM
yahuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!
wonderful  purchase!  :yihaw:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 18, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
well,

now let's have a look at the wonderful CPD
i hooked just the switches and the rotary encoder ... wiring for the pushbutton has yet to be done.

but i was really excited to try it ... so .... here's the first video.

Hope you all enjoy !

A GREAT THANKS to Jay, Mike and Chris to have made this dream come truth

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/?action=view&current=Cpd.mp4 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/?action=view&current=Cpd.mp4)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on September 18, 2011, 01:45:09 PM
SUPER Davide, great work.

I can see you have the window top and buttom border on ??  have you set it to window mode?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on September 19, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
Ahahah
 :clap:
Finally it landed!
I'm so happy!!! Very good  strike m8.
 :cheerleader:
Giorgio
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 20, 2011, 06:00:49 PM
GOT IT !
today was a great day for me ! Finally the ACES II is in my hands ....
and even if i was back from a business trip (just a small deviation) i couldn't refrain to spend some time with "him"

I knew there were two places where the frame was a little bit bent ..... so this evening i made a TRY
I took two pieces of woods, and with two small vises i begun to apply pressure to try to align them ..
WHAT A SURPRISE ... it's working ! Damn .... this is a very difficult alu to bend ... but hell having a longer and wider surface
where to apply the pressure it's the trick ! ..... the upper right side is now straight ....
then i made the same with the upper back right side and left the vises in place ... i'll check at my return !

As soon as i will get the ACESII kneeguards ... i'll begin to figure out how to modify it .... and i'll DO IT !

More to come as soon as possible .... and please if there's some friend over there ... begin to "pray" for me ... LOL

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Catcher on September 20, 2011, 07:29:33 PM
Woooowwww that is sooo awesome :beer:!

You might try heating another piece of aircraft aluminum(if you have that?), and then bend to see how it behaves.
Otherwise you might replace the bended areas with aluminium that has the same thickness.

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 21, 2011, 05:00:04 PM
SUPER Davide, great work.

I can see you have the window top and buttom border on ??  have you set it to window mode?

Thanks Kurt,

as per the window top and bottom border i know that it can be disabled ... but as it's the desktop bench rig ... i can actually live with it.


Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 21, 2011, 05:03:43 PM
Woooowwww that is sooo awesome :beer:!

You might try heating another piece of aircraft aluminum(if you have that?), and then bend to see how it behaves.
Otherwise you might replace the bended areas with aluminium that has the same thickness.

Hi m8, yep i heard about the heating tecnique but as far what i heard is that it should be heated twice as the heat is also used to strenght the alu .... risks seems to be greater than doing it my way.

as per replacing the bent areas .... actually no needs as there are not bent areas anymore .....

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Dunk on September 22, 2011, 12:13:22 AM
Uh Davide, for reasons of US National Security, I am going to have to insist that you package that CPD up and send it directly to me.  :biggrin: ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 22, 2011, 09:34:26 AM
AS i'm in the run to be the next USA's President
I here declare that if i will get enough votes I will cancel immediately
all the useless and annoying laws that don't permit people to build their own simulator.

Every single aircraft being scrapped will be cleaned and all the parts will be sold to VP members
at a fixed value (i just will ask the MIL) to open each panel and to remove any electronic board or sensible circuit

so I hereby Declare that WITHIN the VIPERPIT's COMMUNITY there's no NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE
as ALL OF US are the Best and Warmer Supporters of OUR Valued ArmyMen fighting against the Terror !

I'm not american.... but if i may find one word that resamble what i mean it would be "UNITED WE STAND" .... FOREVER !

God bless You all

Uh Davide, for reasons of US National Security, I am going to have to insist that you package that CPD up and send it directly to me.  :biggrin: ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Catcher on September 22, 2011, 11:11:11 AM
you have my vote
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Olejon on September 22, 2011, 12:57:42 PM
you have my vote too :cheerleader:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: ulti on September 22, 2011, 04:28:45 PM
 :cheerleader: Strale 4 president  :cheerleader:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Dunk on September 22, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
Mine too!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: lumper on September 23, 2011, 06:23:01 PM
Gee, just what we need another foreign president with an agenda.  But I bet American politics would make you head back to Italy as fact as you could.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 24, 2011, 10:26:50 AM
Gee, just what we need another foreign president with an agenda.  But I bet American politics would make you head back to Italy as fact as you could.

Lumper,
American Politics it's easier to deal with that our own ..... try to read some about our politics and you'll realize that
anybody that can live in Italy can bear anything elsewhere (of course in the Western Countries)


Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on October 23, 2011, 12:45:10 PM
Works on the ACES II begun a three weeks ago ... but hell
I was warned about it but i really didn't figure out how it could be time expansive
to remove all those mil-specs rivets ......

After two weeks i reached the first goal .... removing the lower front plate to replace it with
the one coming from an F-16 ACES II

then removed the left ejection handle and all the rivets that attaches the upper rail to the side panel
still have to deal with two damn screws that i really don't understand how they're mounted and then how to remove.
A paint hand .... and here's the result !

Sadly my batteries camera's died ... so just one picture is available.



Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 10, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
The massive modification work on the ACES II continue !

Now just missing few small parts to get definetely finish it.
Seems that the most difficult part of the task is done ..... getting rid of all those rivets and remove the
old parts ...

Have a look !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010167.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010166.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010165.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010170.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010162.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010161.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010171.jpg)

still to remove the exceeding metal parts of the original Arming Lever ... but my DREMEL
burned out .... so need to buy first another one !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010164.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010163.jpg)

The NEW front lower panel
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010156-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010154-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on December 10, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
What a job!!!
Go Davide, go! :cheerleader:
Giorgio
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Lento on December 10, 2011, 01:15:10 PM
tieni duro!!!
seguendo te anche noi "non molleremo" !!!
un salutone

strength and full speed ahead, we come behind you!!!
greetings

Max
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on December 10, 2011, 02:44:04 PM
Grazie Ragazzi !

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 27, 2013, 08:14:18 AM
OOOPPPSSSSSSS


Where the hell all my pictures have gone ???

damn it's a shame !

Can anybody help ?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on September 27, 2013, 08:49:09 AM
I see them perfect
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Catcher on September 27, 2013, 09:49:13 AM
Fantastico buon lavoro! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on September 27, 2013, 10:45:20 AM
Hi Davide! I can clearly see them...how r u?
Ball to the wall!!!
G
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Rufus on September 27, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
I can see them too - keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 27, 2013, 05:44:14 PM
HOLY COW !  :o :o
now i see them too !
damn ... i logged from the office so probably my company proxy didn't allow the browser to load the pictures.

Ok guys ... got scared for a while but now i'm feeling better ...

Thanks and sorry for the "warning"

Cheers
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: jethomasjr on September 27, 2013, 10:48:07 PM
The massive modification work on the ACES II continue !

Now just missing few small parts to get definetely finish it.
Seems that the most difficult part of the task is done ..... getting rid of all those rivets and remove the
old parts ...

Have a look !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010167.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010166.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010165.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010170.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010162.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010161.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010171.jpg)

still to remove the exceeding metal parts of the original Arming Lever ... but my DREMEL
burned out .... so need to buy first another one !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010164.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010163.jpg)

The NEW front lower panel
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010156-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010154-1.jpg)

Well I have some bad news for you sir. Those holes won't pass inspection so your going to have to ship that seat to my house. It is deemed un-airworthy.

Jack
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on September 30, 2013, 04:36:25 AM
The massive modification work on the ACES II continue !

Now just missing few small parts to get definetely finish it.
Seems that the most difficult part of the task is done ..... getting rid of all those rivets and remove the
old parts ...

Have a look !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010167.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010166.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010165.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010170.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010162.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010161.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010171.jpg)

still to remove the exceeding metal parts of the original Arming Lever ... but my DREMEL
burned out .... so need to buy first another one !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010164.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010163.jpg)

The NEW front lower panel
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010156-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/ACES_II/P1010154-1.jpg)

Well I have some bad news for you sir. Those holes won't pass inspection so your going to have to ship that seat to my house. It is deemed un-airworthy.

Jack

Ah ah ah ah ... damn Jack,
strange things happnes .... figure out that this Seat was in TX before a long Flight to ITALY and now ....... here is and here it will stay ! LOL !
in any case ... funny try.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: jethomasjr on September 30, 2013, 09:06:03 AM
The massive modification work on the ACES II continue !

Now just missing few small parts to get definetely finish it.
Seems that the most difficult part of the task is done ..... getting rid of all those rivets and remove the
old parts ...


Well I have some bad news for you sir. Those holes won't pass inspection so your going to have to ship that seat to my house. It is deemed un-airworthy.

Jack

Ah ah ah ah ... damn Jack,
strange things happnes .... figure out that this Seat was in TX before a long Flight to ITALY and now ....... here is and here it will stay ! LOL !
in any case ... funny try.




Well I tried. A nice set of reamers will clean those up.
JT
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 29, 2015, 10:53:19 AM
I think this is one of the saddest day for me !
I begun this adventure in late 1998, I spent YEARS, Thousands of Dollars / Euros to acquire all the parts for my Cockpit and let’s say that I’m probably one of the few man to have a complete and about 100% REAL F-16 Block 52 PIT in a Real WTU Trainer.
I’ve been looking for years for a smaller frame as having the Pit three floor downstairs was causing me troubles to work on it. A Trainer quite 15” long, 6” wide and 6” tall with a  weight (empty) of 450 Kg it’s surely a BIGASS. Pros and Cons …. Lot of space to work but …. Very few occasion to use it .. unless you can put it elsewhere !
Somebody suggested …. Build Your Simulator Room and then Build Your House around it ! well … this gives certainly the idea !
I’ve been thinking, and thinking again, I thought to CUT it and downsize it (argh…. A SIN ….), I tried to trade it for a smaller one …. Well easy Job if I were in the USA …. Harder when You’re in Europe.
So … due to the TIME, the EXPENSES, the Black Tunnel without any light that I can still see on my way.
I decided,

UNLESS SOMEONE WANT TO TRADE IMMEDIATELY HIS SMALLER PIT WITH MY HUGE BIGASS PIT

to SELL EVERYTHING and to get rid of this Nightmare !
Yeah … it’s so hard for me right now that what was a DREAM has become a NIGHTMARE.
I saw many people joined the Viperpit’s Family, I still see the Old Man with which I started the project and still can see in some of their “eyes” the Passion that is moving them and moved me in the Past
It’s time to Quit ! It’s time to keep out of the mind this project and the Anxiety that it’s causing me.
I will SELL to only interested and motivated people and just in BATCH, don’t want to set up auctions for every single panel, switch, instrument, structure or electronics board I have …
The batches will be so composed:

- Lear Singer Weapon Trainer Unit – structure with Outer Skin, Canopy Frames (broken canopy) and small canopy (as new), seat rails, Throttle’s Detent hardware, Sidewall Panels with Lamps aircond, included – you can see pictures of it in my building’s thread but I don’t have any trouble to make others on request;

- ACESII restoration to be completed, Missing the two rails on the left and right side panels – complete 99%

- Center Pedestar (+2 TFT Display + Real BEZELS) + Right Aux Consolle (Pegasus Replicas) + Left Aux Consolle;

- Center Pedestar PANELS: CPD, Engne Gauges (Betainnovations) + RWR (Pegasus Replica) + TWP

- Complete F-16 B52 Glareshield (fore + aft) + AOA & NWS indexers + 5module/10Functions + 2 module/4functions + Master Caution + IFF/ACK + Spot Light (everything REAL)  + DED (Pegasus Replica) + HUD PLEXY REPLICA By (can’t recall … but price was 900 Euros so you surely know the seller !) + REAL and Complete ICP (yeah… the real one !)

- HOTAS (F16B52 Stick + SSC & Throttle + Actuator + Aerotronics MarkII Interfacing Board) + Realsimulator F-16 RUDDER PEDALS + SSC mounting Plate.

- RIGHT AUX CONSOLLE PANELS & Instruments by betainnovation & AIC –fuel Q.ty- + fault display panels (real) + PFD (Pegasus replica)

- LEFT AUX CONSOLLE PANELS: Landing Gear Panel (complete all parts real) + CMDS (REAL parts interfaced with custom CMDS Display working with Betainnovation’s boards) + TWA + AirBrake indicator (REAL) + Landing Gear Handle (REAL)

- RIGHT CONSOLLE (Each Panel in the Block 52 layout ! everything is REAL mixed white and NVG)

- LEFT CONSOLLE (Each Panel in the Block 52 layout ! Everything is REAL mixed white and NVG)

FLIGHT GEAR COMPLETE:
HGU55/CE + antisnag and flipping receiver
MBU20/CE
Flight Helmet Bag
CSU-17/P
CSU-13/P
CSU-15/P complete with kock fittings and CRU Bracket
CRU-94/P
LPU-9/P with extra new cover

I will DEAL only with referenced Members and won’t sell single parts or panels. Just the Batches showed above.

Interested people may contact me by PM making their BEST offer for one or more batches I will consider ANY Serious OFFER but don’t play me fool ! You know what I’m talking about and You Know or you can figure out how much I’ve spent on these parts. Let’s make this easy and fair !

Take care My Friends and Enjoy this only chance !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: gancio on January 29, 2015, 11:21:34 AM
THIS IS a very sad news.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: bluc69 on January 29, 2015, 11:29:37 AM
Really sad!
Strale's project was one of the most insipiring pit when I decided to start my adventure here on VP...
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 29, 2015, 11:49:19 AM
THIS IS a very sad news.

GIORGINO !!!!!! my old pal .... thanks Buddy ! I appreciate !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 29, 2015, 11:49:49 AM
Really sad!
Strale's project was one of the most insipiring pit when I decided to start my adventure here on VP...

Thanks Bluc ! Thanks so much
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Biggles on January 29, 2015, 12:21:46 PM
Dark day for the Viper community.

You have to make choices in life, and this must have been a hard one.

I hope the pit will find a new good home.

Regards,

Biggles
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Rufus on January 29, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
Sad to read this, Strale...after such a great effort.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: AiRdAncE on January 29, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Davide,

Since the beginning many years ago, your name has been intertwined with VP, and your name in many minds has been linked to the highest achievable in home cockpit sims.

I see where you're at, and I regret you feel this way as I know the feeling all to well. Nevertheless I sincerely and profoundly hope you will remain the ever valued member of VP that you've always been.

Big hug!  :beer:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: lightning on February 05, 2015, 07:36:18 AM
Davide,

It can be hard to part with all those toys, especially after all the years of collecting them and storing them and working with them, but having the money back in your pocket, the time back in your life, and the space back in your home will go a long way toward easing the pain. 

On the other hand, if all you need is a smaller pit and you actually want to keep all the other stuff, that seems pretty doable...no?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on February 05, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
C'mon!! Surely one of you guys in Europe would trade a small pit for a full size weapons trainer!! That is a deal of a lifetime. Help a brother out, Davide would be much happier with his pit upstairs inside and able to actually fly it instead of working on it a few times a year!!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Catcher on February 05, 2015, 04:08:00 PM
Dunno if mine is small enough, my pit i mean
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Kukki on February 05, 2015, 04:10:02 PM
Dunno if mine is small enough, my pit i mean

 :harhar: :harhar: :harhar: :harhar:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on February 09, 2015, 07:59:33 AM
Dunno if mine is small enough, my pit i mean

YES  :thumbsup: .... i think it is ... but .... do you have anough room for mine BadAss Trainer ?  :)
think we've to talk  :beer:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Spirit-49th on August 04, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
I've heard that here there is the GOTHA of the Cockpit's builders.......
I won't be able to reach your wonderfull levels.... but hope i'll be accepted as another "crazy man" who joined the GREAT VIPERPIT !!!!
Actually i wasn't able yet to begin the hull/shell works.... but have some nice item and every kind of enquire is wellcomed ! .....
Hope to be helpfull for everybody !

Meawhile I Wish you a Merry Xmas and an Happy New Year !

Cheers from the "Nice Country" (Bel Paese)

hey strale,

maybe its not so important for you but i'd like to mention that your project is still inspiring members, they are not so far as you.
So enjoy RL, have fun (by whatever) and  :beer:   :thumbsup:

Spirit
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 02, 2017, 05:39:11 PM
ARC 164 HQII with WOLFMAN interfacing board and Mil Spec seven segment display
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Cupra on January 02, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
Wolfman´s stuff is great stuff  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 01:38:48 PM
MANUAL TRIM PANEL NVG missing the jaw trim knob
however one of the most rare and difficult items to find.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Romanski on January 03, 2017, 02:24:53 PM
PM send!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 03:24:03 PM
CANOPY SPIDER WITH EVERYTHING !

(don't ask to salvage please)

(http://www.h2mweb.com/SOLD/SOLD-TAG.gif)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 03:31:15 PM
SOME STUFF I DON'T NEED ANYMORE
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 03:42:07 PM
LIGHTNING's CPD (CENTER PEDESTAR DISPLAY)

With complete Wiring Harness

a damn F*ck*ng PIECE OF ART !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Sandman on January 03, 2017, 03:59:32 PM
Interested in Canopy Spider-  PM sent!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
REALSIMULATOR RUDDER PEDALS
(still in the sim)

(http://www.h2mweb.com/SOLD/SOLD-TAG.gif)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: tiger-31 on January 03, 2017, 04:14:48 PM
REALSIMULATOR RUDDER PEDALS
(still in the sim)

pm inbound
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Viper-UK on January 03, 2017, 04:50:27 PM
Interested in HUD cover.  Pm sent !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 05:13:41 PM
AUDIO1

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 05:15:05 PM
AUDIO2 NVG
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
AUXCOMM NVG
Rare
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 05:19:30 PM
ECM VERY VERY RARE
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 05:27:44 PM
CMDS

let me spend few words on this item.
This panel was bought a while ago for a lot of money ......
then the original internal pcb + driving board was quite impossible to drive
so it was the very starting point of the development of some special PCB for these kind of units !
CMDS was the very first, EWMU (having the real deal on hands thanks to Kukki) was the second.
EWPI didn't start due to the high costs of development and the low request.

but, coming back, the original PCB was removed and another one was developed to allow the mounting and interfacing of
the versatile OSRAM SLG-2016, custom MILSPECS 5Vdc incandescent lamps were bought and i think a lot of guys
had the chance to bring back to life their real CMDS panels,

I was very very lucky with this unit as it was complete with all the right switches and rotaries

and here's the bad ass boy !
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
CENTER PEDESTAR MAIN INSTRUMENT PANEL AS IS NOW
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Taipan on January 03, 2017, 06:08:03 PM
Interested in Canopy Spider-  PM sent!
:brickwall:
Curse my timezone ;)
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 03, 2017, 06:27:06 PM
Interested in Canopy Spider-  PM sent!
:brickwall:
Curse my timezone ;)

Sorry Dude ....
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: sagrzmnky on January 03, 2017, 06:32:12 PM
CENTER PEDESTAR MAIN INSTRUMENT PANEL AS IS NOW
Pm sent
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Rufus on January 03, 2017, 07:15:10 PM
CENTER PEDESTAR MAIN INSTRUMENT PANEL AS IS NOW
Pm sent

@sagrzmnky -  :hail: ... :hail: ...
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Cupra on January 04, 2017, 12:30:59 AM
Is monkeys wife already gone?  :beer2:  :-P
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: sagrzmnky on January 04, 2017, 02:19:23 AM
Is monkeys wife already gone?  :beer2:  :-P

 :harhar:
 She won't know about anything until the packages are delivered. It will be too late then. When she decides to sell all of her shoes, clothes, jewelry, and expensive furniture, then she can complain to me. :bat:

Just don't tell her that I said that.... :whistle:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: tiger-31 on January 04, 2017, 02:23:26 AM
Is monkeys wife already gone?  :beer2:  :-P

 :harhar:
 She won't know about anything until the packages are delivered. It will be too late then. When she decides to sell all of her shoes, clothes, jewelry, and expensive furniture, then she can complain to me. :bat:

Just don't tell her that I said that.... :whistle:

Expensive furniture?

You mean your aces II  :harhar:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: sagrzmnky on January 04, 2017, 02:25:33 AM
Is monkeys wife already gone?  :beer2:  :-P

 :harhar:
 She won't know about anything until the packages are delivered. It will be too late then. When she decides to sell all of her shoes, clothes, jewelry, and expensive furniture, then she can complain to me. :bat:

Just don't tell her that I said that.... :whistle:

Expensive furniture?

You mean your aces II  :harhar:

The most comfortable seat in the house....
 I may be sleeping in it soon... :DOH:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: tiger-31 on January 04, 2017, 02:28:08 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: FUSION (aka Viper44) on January 04, 2017, 02:45:45 AM
Is monkeys wife already gone?  :beer2:  :-P

 :harhar:
 She won't know about anything until the packages are delivered. It will be too late then. When she decides to sell all of her shoes, clothes, jewelry, and expensive furniture, then she can complain to me. :bat:

Just don't tell her that I said that.... :whistle:

Expensive furniture?

You mean your aces II  :harhar:

The most comfortable seat in the house....
 I may be sleeping in it soon... :DOH:

We will always have an extra room here for you at the house!!! :thumbsup: :stupid:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: sagrzmnky on January 04, 2017, 10:29:33 AM
With Lizzy? (The dog) :whistle:
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: FUSION (aka Viper44) on January 04, 2017, 03:47:40 PM
With Lizzy? (The dog) :whistle:

Lol....you're her buddy!
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 04, 2017, 07:05:37 PM
BETAINNOVATION SECTION ! FIRST THE BOARDS

26 PIECES ! A NIGHTMARE TO ME RIGHT NOW .... believe me guys ..... i've tears dropping from my eyes !

1 x Gammaray V2
1 x Gammatron
1 x USIM Dongle
1 x Stepper Board
1 x SPI-PWM
1 x Can’t Recall the name/code of the Board
2 x Plasma MM2
2 x DO10-RE5 Relay board
2 x RJ45 EFFLUX
1 x ELECTRON FLUX USB
1 x ELECTRON FLUX LITE
1 x ELECTRON FLUX EXPANSION BOARD EFX-120
1 x DX10-8BIT DAC
1 x LBC-PWM Card
1 x 56LED Board
3 x LO-HV64 
2 x 7D-CA
2 x 3 7Seg-Display small board
1 x 2 7Seg-Display small board

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 04, 2017, 07:10:21 PM
BETAINNOVATION's GAUGES

1 x COMPASS
1 x EPU FUEL
1 x RPM PERCENT (100)
1 x LIQUID OXY
1 x FTIT
1 x NOZZLE POSITION
1 x OIL
2 x HYD

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 04, 2017, 07:12:26 PM
THE ONLY NON BETAINNOVATION GAUGE.

FUEL QUANTITY INDICATOR - AIC
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: tiger-31 on January 05, 2017, 01:38:47 AM
THE ONLY NON BETAINNOVATION GAUGE.

FUEL QUANTITY INDICATOR - AIC

pm sent
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: tiger-31 on January 06, 2017, 10:55:57 AM
THE ONLY NON BETAINNOVATION GAUGE.

FUEL QUANTITY INDICATOR - AIC

pm sent

any news on this?
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 06, 2017, 03:42:03 PM
Tiger,
please avoid to write requests on this thread !

As you all can easily understand i've just sold stuff that was mounted in the simulator
so I need time. I will answer to everybody trough PM
Please while sending requests remember to write down also Your mail address
I'm creating dopbox folders and will give access to the item pictures and informations to all the enquiers

Thanks for understanding.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 09, 2017, 06:43:17 PM
Cleaning the Hangar found a very interesting item ....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/45kxgd6pxw9rqio/IMG_4123.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/45kxgd6pxw9rqio/IMG_4123.MOV?dl=0)

Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Nigel on January 10, 2017, 05:43:31 PM
BETAINNOVATION SECTION ! FIRST THE BOARDS

26 PIECES ! A NIGHTMARE TO ME RIGHT NOW .... believe me guys ..... i've tears dropping from my eyes !

1 x Gammaray V2
1 x Gammatron
1 x USIM Dongle
1 x Stepper Board
1 x SPI-PWM
1 x Can’t Recall the name/code of the Board
2 x Plasma MM2
2 x DO10-RE5 Relay board
2 x RJ45 EFFLUX
1 x ELECTRON FLUX USB
1 x ELECTRON FLUX LITE
1 x ELECTRON FLUX EXPANSION BOARD EFX-120
1 x DX10-8BIT DAC
1 x LBC-PWM Card
1 x 56LED Board
3 x LO-HV64 
2 x 7D-CA
2 x 3 7Seg-Display small board
1 x 2 7Seg-Display small board
Wow Davide I didn't realize how much Beta Innovations gear you are (were) using. That is a complete pit. Awesome score for someone. For anyone considering this as an option, I can say for sure that I have almost identical setup in my pit and it works great.  Now that USIM is updated for W10, all the new SHMEM outputs work too. I f anybody had questions, ask me in the B.I. topic.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 10, 2017, 06:32:50 PM
BETAINNOVATION SECTION ! FIRST THE BOARDS

26 PIECES ! A NIGHTMARE TO ME RIGHT NOW .... believe me guys ..... i've tears dropping from my eyes !

1 x Gammaray V2
1 x Gammatron
1 x USIM Dongle
1 x Stepper Board
1 x SPI-PWM
1 x Can’t Recall the name/code of the Board
2 x Plasma MM2
2 x DO10-RE5 Relay board
2 x RJ45 EFFLUX
1 x ELECTRON FLUX USB
1 x ELECTRON FLUX LITE
1 x ELECTRON FLUX EXPANSION BOARD EFX-120
1 x DX10-8BIT DAC
1 x LBC-PWM Card
1 x 56LED Board
3 x LO-HV64 
2 x 7D-CA
2 x 3 7Seg-Display small board
1 x 2 7Seg-Display small board
Wow Davide I didn't realize how much Beta Innovations gear you are (were) using. That is a complete pit. Awesome score for someone. For anyone considering this as an option, I can say for sure that I have almost identical setup in my pit and it works great.  Now that USIM is updated for W10, all the new SHMEM outputs work too. I f anybody had questions, ask me in the B.I. topic.

Damn Dave .... can You believe that i'm finding my self astonished while i see all the stuff i have !!!!
damn .... believe me .. still have tears falling from my eyes ! it's a shame ! i really hope that all this stuff will go in good hands.
b.t.w.
electronflux lite is gone
2 x hyd gauges, 1 x compass, 1 x Liquid Oxy, 1 x FQI are reserved (pending payment)

take care old pal !

b.t.w.

if you want to have a look at what it was before VIPERPITs and also During it (but then i left web page)
this is MY first web page

http://www.geocities.ws/fox_two_64/2Eng.html (http://www.geocities.ws/fox_two_64/2Eng.html)
damn .... i thought that geocities had deleted it .. but it's still running !!!!

 
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Biggles on January 10, 2017, 07:03:24 PM


if you want to have a look at what it was before VIPERPITs and also During it (but then i left web page)
this is MY first web page

http://www.geocities.ws/fox_two_64/2Eng.html (http://www.geocities.ws/fox_two_64/2Eng.html)
damn .... i thought that geocities had deleted it .. but it's still running !!!!

Funny thing is that i still have that website bookmarked ;)

Biggles.
Title: Re: Strale Project
Post by: Strale on January 10, 2017, 07:10:59 PM


if you want to have a look at what it was before VIPERPITs and also During it (but then i left web page)
this is MY first web page

http://www.geocities.ws/fox_two_64/2Eng.html (http://www.geocities.ws/fox_two_64/2Eng.html)
damn .... i thought that geocities had deleted it .. but it's still running !!!!

Funny thing is that i still have that website bookmarked ;)

Biggles.

Come On !! REALLY ???? so you were a fan of me ! LOL !!!!
thanks Biggles ..... i didn't have it in my bookmarks .... put it again this evening !