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Title: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: mcfrag0815 on December 11, 2016, 03:24:31 PM
Time to start the planning of my own pit. I always liked the idea of the Akers-Barnes-Cockpit: not too big, easy build and cheap to realize.
On the other hand I love the F-16 and so the idea was born to combine these two things. After a lot of thinking and looking for some A-B-pits and their variants I felt it was time to begin.

As I'm not familiar to CAD but building plastic model kits the first phase of my build will be a 1/6 scale mockup of the future pit.
So I grabbed some Foamboard and PS-plating and I ended up with this puzzle:

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/Simpit/puzzle.jpg)

And hopefully someday I will end here (in 1/1 scale of course  :lol:)

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/Simpit/pit001.jpg)

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/Simpit/pit002.jpg)

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/Simpit/pit003.jpg)

The whole construction will be made of 19mm and 12mm MDF, the ACES II is from SpeedOne's plans and the center pedestal by Symulate. 2 Thrustmaster Cougar MFD's will be also installed, the HOTAS is a Thrustmaster Warthog plus Slaw RX Viper Rudders. Another variation besides the not 100% to original measures and angles of the F-16 will be the 15" Touchscreen in front (as my onboard-entertainment-system  :biggrin:) and the main monitor is a 40" Philips BDM4065UC.

Up to this point it was a lot of fun - hopefully I will be able to build it also in 1/1  :yihaw:

Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: NOCS on December 11, 2016, 03:48:50 PM
Very nice project
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: opasi on December 11, 2016, 03:50:42 PM
Cool, Man!
Bravo. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: Rufus on December 11, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
That is way cool... :thumbsup: !  I love mock-ups.
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: Boomer on December 11, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
That's really good!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: wralex on December 11, 2016, 06:26:40 PM
Really cool!  :beer2:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: henkie on December 12, 2016, 09:16:16 AM
Really nice job  :thumbsup:
This is a darn fine approach to visualize your dream - and keeping it alive  ;D

Did you find "issues" in the mock-up that will now be avoided when realizing the full scale "thing" ???
Even if you only found one issue, it paid off to start with the mock-up  :bounce2:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: mcfrag0815 on December 12, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
No major issues yet - but it helped a lot to minimize the material usage and calculating the needed material :countingmoney:
So I think it was already worth it - and besides that its a lot of fun to build a miniature pit.
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: Zandor on December 14, 2016, 05:23:53 PM
I really like it......very similar to my old build....keep us posted! :beer:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: mcfrag0815 on January 06, 2017, 05:31:36 PM
Not really an update on my A/B-Viper-Hybrid-Pit, but I wanted to share this with you.

In preparation of the upcoming Cockpit and AcesII build it was necessary to change my working space because we're living in a flat and I don't have a whole room as a workshop and space is very limited. So a lot of new furnitures were ordered and the old inventory had to be removed.
And then I had this moment while disassembling my IKEA of Sweden IVAR-shelf and I hold this side panel in my hands and I begun to think... and I made a quick plan.

3 hours later it looked like this, only using the materials from my old workspace

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/Simpit/IMG_5374.jpg)


(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/Simpit/IMG_5377.jpg)

So what I've learned is that sometimes a good Idea will lead to a goal but what's much more important:

IKEA of Sweden isn't selling only furnitures and screws and their famous Allen wrenches... NO THEY'RE PRODUCING AND SELLING COCKPIT-PARTS AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT    :woo:

Before that I was a Fan of IKEA - but now I'm loving them   :mrgreen:

EDIT: The fairy of orthography had to look over my recent post
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: Rufus on January 06, 2017, 11:50:40 PM
That's creative... :notes: ..!
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: Marvin on January 07, 2017, 12:00:35 AM
Nice use of model work to test your work.  Love it!
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: mcfrag0815 on February 18, 2017, 10:24:33 AM
At first: the bad news
The build of my A/B-Viper-Hybrid-Pit design is cancelled until further notice. I realized that the space for my pit is too few (not much but too few is too few)  :grumbl:

But there's also good news:
I will build my IVAR-Design IKEA-pit. The measures are not exactly like the real Viper, but it's better than nothing to fly with.

In the meanwhile I put in the left and right consoles (they're shorter and narrower than the real ones but the angles are correct) and actually I'm building the CP from Sy's plans with a few simplifications.
The finished pit won't have full functionality but fake panels as close to the original as possible. The layout has to be changed here and there (especially around the throttle because I use the Warthog throttle).

The whole pit is modular (side consoles, floor, rudder floor, seat base and monitor stand) so it's possible to dismantle the whole pit with very little effort. On final the left and right panels will be separated from the consoles also for better reachability.


Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: Symulate on February 19, 2017, 12:20:03 PM
Nice job with the CP.  I hope the plans were easy to use.  Details PM'd regarding the Instrument Panels as requested.

Thanks,
Sy
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: mcfrag0815 on February 25, 2017, 08:33:08 PM
Thank you Sy. Yes, the plans were easy in usage. I only had to modify them a little bit to meet my needs. Especially the front part (consisting of LOWER SPACER 1 to 8) had to be modified because I can't imagine that these tiny pieces can be handmade. You have to CNC or Laser them.

So I made my further progress with the LHS and RHS Instrument Panels. I build them from 3 layers of 6mm MDF. All parts handmade and no powertools were used.
Screens and MFD's are already installed so I think I can go for a first action run... not 100% satisfied with the cabling and installation of the monitor's panels maybe I will rework the backside a little bit.

Oh... and don't even think about mentioning the color of the clamps  :bat:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's Hybrid Pit
Post by: hy-fye1 on February 26, 2017, 01:28:25 AM
Nice work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: mcfrag0815 on April 25, 2017, 03:39:07 PM
Only small progress in the last weeks. First, I'm trying to build a base for the SSC. As I'm using the Warthog Stick and Throttle I have to heavily modify the pit in these areas. The base of the Warthog Stick is a chunk compared to the Cougar. So not all of the panels will fit in the area.

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/SimPit/SSC_base_001.jpg)

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/SimPit/SSC_base_002.jpg)

But I like the way it turns out  :)

The second step was the construction of the ACES II to get rid of the carseat. I mix the plans of SpeedOne and Brenda on this one. Not an exact replica and a lot of simplifications and difference to the original...

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/SimPit/aces_001.jpg)

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/SimPit/aces_002.jpg)

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/SimPit/aces_003.jpg)

And finally I built a CPD out of an old 10.4" Tablet and some Plasticard. The Tablet is a Point of View ProTab 3XXL... and this one is... ehrm... slow.
No, not only slow. Let me say it like this: use it as a cutting board for vegetables or meat in the kitchen. But not for serious matters  :bat:
So it will be changed with a Galaxy Tab A 10.1 wich is already here but I haven't modified the CPD housing yet to fit it.

(http://www.tinwarriors.de/bildextern/bauberichte/SimPit/cp_012.jpg)

With the first fake instruments and panels installed it begins to look and feel like a cockpit  :yihaw:

And maybe the most important thing: after the building session the pit is ready to fly and can be used immediately!
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: YetY on April 25, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
Looking good!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :clap:

Cheers
YetY
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: Rufus on April 25, 2017, 08:21:35 PM
That's looking pretty cool... :thumbsup: ...and I still like the Ikea connection... :whistle: ...
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: hy-fye1 on April 25, 2017, 08:39:29 PM
Nice :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: Catcher on April 26, 2017, 09:33:06 AM
Looking good, and btw, never give up building 8)
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: Kukki on April 26, 2017, 09:48:29 AM
mcfrag0815 keep up the good work, its so super inspiring to see what people come up with of good ideas  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Keep posting pictures  :beer:
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: wralex on April 26, 2017, 12:17:08 PM
Always cool to see different build. Keep it up Mcfrag.
Title: Re: mcfrag0815's IKEA IVAR-Pit Project
Post by: mcfrag0815 on April 26, 2017, 03:04:32 PM
Thank you all for the warm words. And even it will never be a "real" F-16-pit I'm beginning to feel at home when I'm entering it  :D