BMS & AR Demo Video

[Marvin]

First thing is wireless is just horseshit.  To think you can run sims like we have and the graphics as wireless is pretty insane.  So running it wired has way more performance.

Seems like a few on the BMS forums and OculusQuest on Reddit would disagree.
Please let me know how you're testing and what cable you're using.  I would always welcome more performance!

I think you just need a REALLY good connection.  Flim had almost 1600 mbps and stable and he said he noticed no difference.  Mine was 1200 on a good day.  So I purchased the link cable from Meta and then use an ethernet to USBC adapter and I have never been happier.  Stable and fast and smooth and always charged.

[Atlas]

This one?
https://www.meta.com/gb/quest/accessories/link-cable/

Also -- how are you testing performance between cable and no-cable?

[Marvin]

This one?
https://www.meta.com/gb/quest/accessories/link-cable/

Also -- how are you testing performance between cable and no-cable?

Yes.  And with my eyes.   lol  Its very noticeable.  Wireless there is a lot of lag, and the bit rate can be slow where you see the terrain is quite blurry until the terrain loads and is in better quality.

[Atlas]

So just any mission?  It's that noticeable you don't need framerate counters?

[Marvin]

Hey guys,

I wanted to demonstrate the potential of AR/VR with sufficient lighting and to further simulate daytime flying.  As stated above sufficient lighting in the cockpit greatly enhances the passthrough cameras to where I would argue you have about 98-99% clarity.  It might even be 100% and I just need glasses.  lol  But either way having good sufficient lighting helps.

I purchased some cheap powerful LED spot lights on amazon and mounted them to a cheap home made PVC structure frame and results are mind blowing.  Not only does it further enhance clarity, but the flood lights shining on the displays etc further prevents the LCD glowing that a camera will pick up that the naked eye does not.  I assume this is due to cameras being light sensitive.  This also enables you to turn off all cockpit lighting which does a great job of simulated daytime in the cockpit (without having that dark and lit up cockpit in a daytime environment; which is confusing on the eyes) but more importantly as I have already put 1000+ hours into my panels which are mostly from the 80/90s which helps the longevity of them.  And lets not forget the 70 amps I am running normally with all lighting on.  lol

These particular lights that come with a remote to adjust the brightness and colour.  So I have found with the pilot visor down in BMS reducing the lighting to 40% makes it blend very nicely.

Some further enhancements would be to use an arduino or something to control my lights so they can interact with the cockpit more (such as when I move the visor down the lighting auto-brightness adjusts) or even maybe one day tracking the sun position with the shared memory.  But for now static works VERY well.

And as for night time flying, well that's as easy as adjusting the brightness of your panels, lights and displays.

So again, the Quest 3 is more than suitable to implement AR.  You just have to get use to the environment and can enhance it with tips and tricks.  And of course you only have better future headsets to look forward to.  I've been using AR for almost 100 hours now and will NEVER go back to projection or monitors. 

[Atlas]

@Marvin are you using the default BMS solution of doing MR?  Or are you doing it differently with another app?

[Marvin]

@Marvin are you using the default BMS solution of doing MR?  Or are you doing it differently with another app?

Yes.  I worked with John and we (more like HE) did a great job.  If you set up your TQS comm switch as DX secondary switch functions for enable/disable AR, VR center, VR zoom, and cockpit pilot model off an on (if you want to see the virtual knee boards) it makes for a nice setup and everything we need for AR/VR.

[Atlas]

Thanks for confirming you're using the default BMS solution.
Who is John?

[Marvin]

Sorry John is @jjbravo he did all the AR for us in BMS.

[henkie]

Great pictures, thanks 

Even when you are not going "AR", these light spot are a nice addition anyway 

[Atlas]

@Marvin thanks!

[Tulkas]

Great idea and great tip Marvin. Not only for AR but also to videotape the cockpit, as you said the screen glow on camera is really ugly. I'm going to copy it

The last picture with your cockpit and the sim landscape  is just amazing. Hard to believe where we have arrived for those of us who started siming in the 90s, or even before   

[Korbi]

Yesterday I placed my order for the VR1! Let's see, I will report back, when I have it in my hands

[tiger-31]

Yesterday I placed my order for the VR1! Let's see, I will report back, when I have it in my hands

  Please do! Looking forward to your report.

[Atlas]

Yesterday I placed my order for the VR1! Let's see, I will report back, when I have it in my hands

The Somnium VR1?  Oh man!  Which one did you opt for?  Would be really interested in how this headset performs, but at 1,900EUR, it better blow the Quest 3 (£620 or 730EUR, almost 1/3rd in cost!) out of the water to justify the price!