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Author Topic: BMS 4.35 startup issues  (Read 1363 times)

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BMS 4.35 startup issues
« on: January 02, 2021, 07:50:50 AM »
Maybe I am the only one with a problem, but just in case an other issue pops up, I created this thread.

I installed BMS 4.35, no issues, it went like a breeze. Well done developers  :thumbsup:

Now, I am a noob on running BMS, but 2021 should become the year I (at least) try to fly a few minutes  :whistle:
When I double-click the Falcon BMS 4.35 icon, I get the FALCON BMS menu (Launch, Configuration, etc). Then I select "Launch" (nothing done before). The FALCON BMS Billionsoft opening screen appears, and then the shown Error message box appears. When I hoover the mouse over the opening screen or the error message, the mouse pointer disappears. When I click the OK button of the error message box, all closes.
Any clues ???

BTW, nothing is connected to any USB port of the PC.

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2021, 08:16:59 AM »
Is your GPU able to run DX10 & DX11 graphics?

if not, check this:


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-qsPyZfAJw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-qsPyZfAJw</a>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-qsPyZfAJw

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2021, 11:19:12 AM »
Very good point @Red Dog  :thumbsup:
I had not thought of that  :DOH:  This PC is "just a PC" with on-board graphics, nothing fancy.
Will try, and report back!

Update.
I followed the instructions in the YouTube movie (dxcpl was installed already).
I added launcher.exe to the list ... same result  :(   Will try again after rebooting my PC.

Update 2.
Nope, rebooting the PC brings no solution. Time to do some googling foo  :-\
« Last Edit: January 03, 2021, 09:30:12 AM by henkie »

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2021, 09:44:54 AM »
Checking my PC using dxdiag (Start -> run -> dxdiag).
The dxdiag-output-1 screenshot shows DirectX 12, so I guess this is good ???

However, on the Input devices tab (dxdiag-output-2 screenshot) I see vJoy.
That is a remains of some experiments lomg ago. Maybe that is causing trouble?
Going to remove vJoy, and see what that brings ...

Update.
Nope, removal of vJoy (checked with dxdiag that it is gone) did not help either  :(

Any thoughts?  :reading:
« Last Edit: January 03, 2021, 09:50:07 AM by henkie »

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2021, 09:53:10 AM »
Did you try to delete the "d3d11.dsp" file (user/config folder)

I don't know if that's still a valid advice (so backup first) but back before deleting the "dx9display.dsp" file forced the system to recreate one and that solved such startup issues
Maybe you can give it a shot by deleting the "d3d11.dsp" file

It's out of the blue so don't delete that file, save it someplace else just in case I'm wrong

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2021, 03:06:33 PM »
After reading, I thought: "I do not have a previous version of BMS installed, so I do not need to save anything. If it fails, I just re-install BMS 4.35 again".
So, ready to delete the file I went to "C:\Falcon BMS 4.35\User\Config".
There are no .dsp files, so nothing to delete.

But then I saw the folder "C:\Falcon BMS 4.35\User\Logs".
In there are a few .dmp (crash dump) files, .bmp screenshots and  .txt files.
Maybe interestng that the .txt files are all virtually the same and start with the following data:

Falcon BMS.exe caused an EXCEPTION_BREAKPOINT in:
0000000093BAD759 KERNELBASE.dll, RaiseException()+105 byte(s)
Exception handler called in CRT Terminate Handler.
BreakpointBytes at CS:RIP: 0F 1F 44 00 00 48 8B 8C 24 C0 00 00 00 48 33 CC

Registers:
RAX=0x00007ffc960c0000  RBX=0x00000000044eb800  RCX=0x000000000366fc30  RDX=0x0000000000000005
RSI=0x0000000004c50840  RDI=0x000000000200f510  RBP=0x0000000000000000  RSP=0x000000000014fca0
RIP=0x00007ffc93bad759  FLG=0x00007ffc00000206 
 R8=0x00007ffc90aae1e5   R9=0x0000000000000000  R10=0x0000000000000010  R11=0x00000000000003e8
R12=0x000000000200f510  R13=0x0000000000000040  R14=0x0000000002010a40  R15=0x000000000014fea0
CS=0x0033  DS=0x002B  SS=0x002B  ES=0x002B  FS=0x0053  GS=0x002B


The follows the call stack and the top of stack, Compiler Options and System Information.

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2021, 03:15:32 PM »
@henkie
Make sure you have the latest MS Visual C++ Redistributables installed.

Here is what I have, but you probably don't need all of them.
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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2021, 03:26:02 PM »
Thanks @jjbravo , good tip, you never know who might need this one  :whistle:
I am good on this, my list looks almost the same as yours  :D

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2021, 04:52:39 PM »
Henk
Whats your system specs? My trusty old PC will not run anything past 4.34 anymore. In my experience, the "adapter" error is a graphics issue.

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2021, 01:27:09 AM »
Henk contact me, I have a very good watercooled all closed system graphic card a ati radeon R9 Fury, google it, it runs bms 4.35 on 3 x full HD screen with 50 fps with all turned on and way higher on a single screen. Its almost a 900 Euro card that time,  and i dont use it anymore so you can have it if you want , just pay the shipping.

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2021, 11:57:48 AM »
Henk,
do you have unresolved device drivers?
Have a check under Computer --> Manage --> Device Manager
 
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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2021, 02:26:07 PM »
Guys, thanks for the support  :beer:

@KK : Good point to check  :thumbsup: In my case every component has correct drivers (as it should)  :whistle:

@Kukki : I really appreciate your offer, but you know me  :D  I will say "no, but thanks" (very much!)
My PC is the PC in the living room. On that PC, I do all hardware and software development. And at the moment it is the PC for my work (at home). Further, this PC is for all mail lists and fora (VP, FF, old computer stuff, amateur radio, web sites etc.). Needless to say that I run a back-up at regular intervals  :D  In my hobby room I have two PCs. One is a "mini cube" running Windows XP on a HyperThreading P4  :whistle:  The other PC is a more capable laptop with better specs than the PC in the living room  ;D
I plan to buy a state-of-the-art PC when my pit is ready to fly  :bounce2:

@Nigel : I think you may be right!  I vaguely remember that I had 4.34 installed and running (crappy graphics though).
My main reason to have BMS installed is _not_ to fly with it  :reading:  I need BMS to test/check my rather miserable C# code that I am writing. I need to see whether I can successfully read the shared memory and issue callbacks. Performance is not relevant, just want to prove that the software mechanisms do what I want  ;D

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2021, 03:45:41 PM »
My main reason to have BMS installed is _not_ to fly with it  :reading:  I need BMS to test/check my rather miserable C# code that I am writing. I need to see whether I can successfully read the shared memory and issue callbacks. Performance is not relevant, just want to prove that the software mechanisms do what I want  ;D
Could you just use the sharememory recorder? This would allow you to replay sharedmemory and not have to run BMS. You just need someone or another computer to record the sharedmemory you want ot test.

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Re: BMS 4.35 startup issues
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2021, 02:08:29 PM »
 :DOH:  I had not thought about that @jjbravo

But I just installed BMS 4.34 (no updates), and it runs  :cheerleader:
Video is crappy, but for now I can proceed my feeble C# attempts  :D

So, whatever it is (probably the graphics adapter), BMS 4.35 demands more up-to-date hardware.

 

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