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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #540 on: August 25, 2017, 05:33:05 AM »
@sagrzmnky : Thanks Phillip, i'll keep that in mind when i come across a small enough bearing; good idea!   :thumbsup:
@ all : Thanks for your comments and suggestions! As about the servos, i did a little research today, and came up with finding a few interesting models.
Here's a list of what i found:

Make/Model                     Turns                            Connector

Hitec HS-785HB                  3.5                             HITEC
-"-    RCD33785S                3.5                             HITEC  (same model, different name)
KING MAX SW5513-4MA      4                               unknown 
-"-            SW5513-6MA      1.5                            unknown   
TURNIGY TGY-4805-1.5PA   1.5-1.7                      JR
-"-          TGY-6114MD         1-6                            JR
GWS  S125-6T-D/2BB*        6                               JR

*This servo can be connected to the same brands' DSP-1 Digital Servo Programmer to be set between 1 and 6 turns.

If anyone has better knowledge of servos, and can check specs, i'd appreciate suggestions!
Now, on today's progress, i managed to do the side stamp for the indexers, with the already-familiar toothpic and paint method.  :harhar:



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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #541 on: August 25, 2017, 06:03:03 AM »
Hey salaxi54

There is a way to adapt servo's to you needs.
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=8393.0

Thought i would mention it.

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #542 on: August 25, 2017, 12:19:47 PM »
Hey salaxi54

There is a way to adapt servo's to you needs.
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=8393.0

Thought i would mention it.

Ahhh, I forgot about that post from @Moon   :thumbsup:
It is a brilliant idea and gives you *two* important solutions
1 - rotation more than 180 degrees
2 - axis centered

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #543 on: August 25, 2017, 12:28:38 PM »
I did mod a servo and works awesome.
https://youtu.be/AsvgnIUUQA8

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #544 on: August 25, 2017, 03:12:25 PM »
Nice looking Indexer... :thumbsup: !
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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #545 on: August 26, 2017, 01:39:42 AM »
@Redneck : Thanks, i do remember that servo mod, and it's a brilliant idea.
All i'm wondering is: what's the use of modding say a 90-degree servo into a 360 when you can get a 360 servo dirt-cheap nowadays? Only thing left to do afterwards would be to install a shaft in the center of the driving gear i think.
To conclude, what's the ideal servo for the job? There's 9 gauges on the right side (for the Block 52 Current configuration), and none of them seem to require more than 350-360 degree travel in total - unless i'm mistaken.
As i see it, they're : OIL, NOZ POS, RPM, FTIT, FUEL, HYD (x2), EPU, CABIN PRESS.
Instruments located at the center pedestal don't worry me, since i'll be using the "modern" CPD. Only other obstacle i can see in the future would be the compass..
Thank you all for your coments!  :thumbsup: 

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #546 on: August 26, 2017, 08:23:44 AM »
Thanks for the compliments @salaxi54 @henkie and @Redneck  It means a lot coming from such great pit-builders.

Dirt-cheap 360 servos lack position feedback, which is essential for a gauge.  360 servos are modified for continuous rotation, e.g. to drive the wheels on a robot.

Henkie is correct - some winch servos are multi-turn and have position feedback.  A 3.5 turn servo would work, but the mod I posted can be more accurate, cheaper and is axis centered.

If you do use a multi-turn winch servo, look for one that is 1 - 1.5 turns.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2017, 08:37:35 AM by Moon »

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #547 on: August 26, 2017, 01:09:04 PM »
The problem with servos is that the axis is not in the center of the servo body. That makes them difficult to use for the smaller indicators. So @Moon  mod is just perfect.

@salaxi54  on the MAN TRIM you could also use 2 servos. I did that (well, actually I used aircore motors), because I am more comfortable with electronics, but you can make the ROLL and PITCH indicator needles also working using a mechanical link to the adjustment knob. That's how the real thing is constructed, and I am sure you will show us yet an other fine example of your skills to make great stuff out of "junk", just like you did with the indexers   :thumbsup:

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #548 on: September 05, 2017, 07:06:15 AM »
@Moon@henkie : Thanks fellas!  Henk, to be honest, the Manual Trim panel was not in my mind at all.. :DOH: Thus, i'll have to keep that in mind too.
Now, another question, does anyone have an idea if i can power-test the DED oled panel without the Arduino connected? I mean, i tried just the power supply at 4 vdc, and nada.
It supposedly operates at a range of 3.3-5vdc, but would it display anything on its own, or do i really have to connect it to the Due to see something?
Thanks in advance!

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #549 on: September 05, 2017, 01:56:31 PM »
just guessing ...
you have to clock data in, to get pixels turned on. At power up the local display electronics will do a reset and erase the garbage in the memory so that the display is blank.
Maybe if you apply power, switch off the power and then back on, the reset is "maybe" not executed, but the memory contents is already "whatever". Then you might see some garbage image on the display ... hmmm, maybe that is how modern "artists" create modern paintings   :D

Give it a try, but I would not hope too much. If you get a garbage image, make a picture  ;D

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #550 on: October 18, 2017, 12:58:50 AM »
Hi there fellas! You all know by now that i tend to skip from one subsystem to another, and now i intend to work a little on the side stick. So i have a question..
I really don't know much, but i would like to find out about the trigger switch. Is it actually a two-position trigger? If so, what goes on with the two stages? I have read various things, and nothing seems certain too me.
For example: 
1st detent - nothing
2nd detent - fires gun

Another example:
The trigger fires the gun. It's actually a two-stage trigger: The first stage starts the camera and activates the laser (if using laser ranging), and the second stage fires the gun.

I was wondering if it matters depending on the F-16 block? I've studied various pictures, and here's a good example:
http://www.simhq.com/_technology3/images/technology_174a_018.jpg

If you take a close look at the trigger, you can see the two yellow microswitches located one behind the other. So my guess is, you have to go through the first stage to close contacts for the second stage, in which case, probably stage one is "inert" ?
Thanks in advance for any reply!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #551 on: November 12, 2017, 09:22:02 AM »
Not much news on the pit front, just a slight modification on the indexers' base. As soon as i find a little time, i'll be molding this piece for resin.


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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #552 on: November 18, 2017, 07:04:06 AM »
Another minor update. I found a little free time today and assembled the DED box out of wood (of course).
Now putty is drying, and next up will be sanding time..









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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #553 on: November 19, 2017, 07:25:10 AM »
A little more progress. Painted the box, and then took a DVD disc case:



The donor plastic was ok for the display frame cover:





Then i temporarily placed it all in the box:



And that's all for today.  :)

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Re: Salaxi54's pit progress
« Reply #554 on: November 19, 2017, 11:53:49 AM »
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