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Title: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Red Dog on January 07, 2021, 02:09:23 PM

Gents,

Any hints on how to interface a cockpit throttle rail into DCS?
When I fly DCS, my Cougar idle is 80% and I have to go beyond cutoff to actually go to DCS idle.

Basically it's the course of the throttle that does not account for my idle and AB point just like BMS has. (the green and red line on the throttle axis in the BMS UI

Can we do something like that in DCS to ensure one cockpit fits both sim?

Thanks for any input you may have

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Korbi on January 07, 2021, 02:18:56 PM

You can at least adjust your axis in the setup to accomodate for the correct idle-position.
Select the axis in the setup and use the axis-setting tab at the bottom of the screen. Play around a bit, I'm sure you can figure it out.
Don't have my DCS available at the moment.

I also saw a Video once, where a guy showed how to set the AB detend. But thats shit, you have to fuzz around with the curvature of the axis and and and...

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Red Dog on January 07, 2021, 02:23:31 PM

Thanks Korbi.
Not sure I want to do a hack until I'm sure there's no planned solution.

I remember there's a throttle range in Foxy (but I use the same TMJ from BMS to DCS and i'd prefer not to reprogram my Cougar
(my whole pit has the same programming for DCS and BMS regarding inputs so far)

I guess target might have a few possible solution as well but i confess I never used the damn thing :)

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Korbi on January 07, 2021, 02:27:34 PM

Then you understood it wrong RD.
The Axissetup is local to DCS.
You can adjust the axis with a deadzone in the DCS Setup itself.

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Red Dog on January 07, 2021, 03:22:29 PM

Thanks, I'll have a look

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Gianlu320 on January 07, 2021, 04:16:10 PM

Hello Red Dog

I hope this can help
I use Realsimulator Tusba with my cougar throttle and I was able to calibrate the guide rail detents using realsimulator tusba software.
It works perfectly in dcs and a replica guide rail.

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Cupra on January 07, 2021, 04:16:48 PM

Tried ist Many times. Ist Dose Not work. All works with the Axis Setup and this fuc...ing courve. You can Not set any detends. You Need to Play with the courve. Or Build in additional Switches.

DCS is total crap for us pit Users :(

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: raptor on January 07, 2021, 04:32:48 PM

Here m8:

DCS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XviL1AIakE4


TQS:

(https://i.ibb.co/5jzRtyK/Controls-TQS-01.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/mh88NtK/Controls-TQS-02.png)


Antenna Elevation:
(https://i.ibb.co/f8Pr4vD/Controls-ANT-ELEV-01.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/vHS8S0k/Controls-ANT-ELEV-02.png)


Range:

(https://i.ibb.co/8BGp5B7/Controls-MAN-RNG-01.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/vVSX78h/Controls-MAN-RNG-02.png)


Cursor-X:

(https://i.ibb.co/4Jjhggf/Controls-CRS-X-01.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/LgdHQk2/Controls-CRS-X-02.png)


Cursor-Y:

(https://i.ibb.co/Y35pz03/Controls-CRS-Y-01.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/YhscfQw/Controls-CRS-Y-02.png)



(and BMS, for the music -fun part :-) )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XtbkYPfOc

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Cupra on January 07, 2021, 05:12:48 PM

How did you manage the IDLE-switch? Because, I do not have any button, switch or something similar I can use or push to go from the JFS to idle.. and back zu the cutoff. And I did not find any option in DCS to set such a pint. Just by moving? And can you share you axis-setup?

In BMS it is easy. Right click at fist position, left clcik on AB detend. No matter how the axis is done or something similar. It still takes huge time just for finding the point in the courve where the AB starts.. if you axis move a litte bit you do that annoing job evey day again and again :(

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: raptor on January 07, 2021, 05:27:36 PM

Quote from: Cupra on January 07, 2021, 05:12:48 PM

can you share you axis-setup?

2nd picture on my above post, "Thrust AXIS TUNE PANEL"

Just use the exact same values and you will have the functionality of the 1st video on my post.

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Red Dog on January 07, 2021, 05:43:47 PM

Thanks Raptor,
Much appreciated

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Red Dog on January 08, 2021, 10:00:21 AM

Works a treat on the axis, even without Tusba.
Many thanks again Raptor

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: raptor on January 08, 2021, 01:37:59 PM

Your welcome Sir, glad it works on others too.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Real F-16 throttle to DCS
Post by: Red Dog on October 10, 2021, 06:39:26 AM

Quote from: Cupra on January 07, 2021, 05:12:48 PM

How did you manage the IDLE-switch? Because, I do not have any button, switch or something similar I can use or push to go from the JFS to idle.. and back zu the cutoff. And I did not find any option in DCS to set such a pint. Just by moving? And can you share you axis-setup?

I did it with a Type 6 axis programming in Foxy:

Code: [Select]

rem For below idle to start and shut the engine
THR 6 1 (0 12) Start_single_engine  Shut_single_engine   

where

Code: [Select]

Start_single_engine = {RSHF HOME}
Shut_single_engine = {RSHF END}

works fine on my end