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Author Topic: Rebel's Cockpit Progress  (Read 39783 times)

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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #90 on: January 02, 2017, 04:03:30 PM »
....hhmmmnn...swap eyeball vent for beer tap... :notes: ...check..!
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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2017, 11:11:58 PM »
FINALLY!  Starting the avionics.  I'm starting with the right console and wanted to put my first panel switch selection on here to make sure I was headed in the right direction.

On the Sensor Power panel, the LEFT & RIGHT HDPT and FCR switches are all listed as 1TL1-3D toggles in Lightning's list.  Tracing the optional substitutions I think I can switch to an SPST 1TN1-2 and then use Biohazards's toggle head replicas to give it the form and fit of the 1TL1-3D.  If that works, the only major differences I can see is that my switch won't have the locking feature, will have a slightly shorter arm (0.25mm), and the price difference ($10-15 depending on where purchased).  As I've said before, electronics are not my specialty so any help or words of wisdom would be much appreciated.

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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #92 on: March 06, 2018, 08:31:35 PM »
With respect to toggle switch cap installation options, I just wanted to provide this as a how-to/possibly how not-to depending on your preference. 

Option A:  I initially started down the path of cutting threads into the toggle stems using a 12-24 die.  I felt this size was a nice balance between the competing desires to remove the least amount of switch stem material and to leave sufficient plastic on the plastic cap's base.  I then drilled and tapped a 12-24 size hole in one of Biohazard's toggle caps...and voila, a toggle switch with a nice toggle cap installed.  See attached picture for the tools used.

Option B:  I then tried an alternative approach by successively drilling (with a drill press) larger and larger diameter holes in another toggle cap until it was wide enough to slip over an unaltered toggle switch stem.  I drilled a 0.5” depth hole with a 5/64” (0.0781”) bit, then a #29 (0.1360”) bit, then a 3/16” (0.1875”) bit, then a “B” (0.2380”) letter drill bit.

I tried a couple of different surface preps and paints and what I found to work best was a light sand with 800 grit sandpaper, wash with dish soap, dry, then spray paint with Rustoleum Aluminum 7515 (no primer).  The no primer option actually gave a better surface finish and has adhered very well after drying for atleast 48 hours. 

My thoughts/preference:  I preferred Option B.  Even though you have to be extremely careful while holding the toggle caps and drilling into them.  I did loose a few during the process due to breakouts, but I thought it was much less work involved and less destructive to the more expensive switches than Option A.  Holding the toggle switch stems securely with vise-grips for Option A (even with small rubber pads between the grip and the stem) caused the toggle stem paint/surface coating to be scratched off.  I did notice that Option B tended to result with a few caps with a slight wobble when attached to the stems, but a VERY small amount of White Gorilla Glue (expanding) was applied and solved the issue.  While they might be permanently applied at that point (not sure as I didn't try to remove), if I have a switch failure, it's probably easier to just attach a new cap to a new switch and move on.  Hope this is useful to others that are trying to decide what to do.

Helpful hint either way, if you purchase toggle caps, make sure to purchase extras just in case.   :DOH:


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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #93 on: March 07, 2018, 03:09:51 AM »
Thanks for reporting. It looks great
I did it myself like in option B and worked good too.
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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #94 on: March 17, 2018, 09:35:49 PM »
More progress.  Right side forward console completed.  Not wired, but all switches, caps, knobs, and the guard installed.  Little works of art when completed. :)

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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #95 on: March 17, 2018, 11:14:21 PM »
NICE looking, Rebel... :thumbsup: !
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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #96 on: March 18, 2018, 03:24:30 AM »
Very very bice work there mate 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #97 on: March 18, 2018, 12:36:14 PM »
Very nice indeed!
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« Reply #98 on: March 18, 2018, 07:46:10 PM »
Really nice, clean work there. Well done.

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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #99 on: March 20, 2018, 04:18:38 AM »
With respect to toggle switch cap installation options, I just wanted to provide this as a how-to/possibly how not-to depending on your preference. 

Option A:  I initially started down the path of cutting threads into the toggle stems using a 12-24 die.  I felt this size was a nice balance between the competing desires to remove the least amount of switch stem material and to leave sufficient plastic on the plastic cap's base.  I then drilled and tapped a 12-24 size hole in one of Biohazard's toggle caps...and voila, a toggle switch with a nice toggle cap installed.  See attached picture for the tools used.

Option B:  I then tried an alternative approach by successively drilling (with a drill press) larger and larger diameter holes in another toggle cap until it was wide enough to slip over an unaltered toggle switch stem.  I drilled a 0.5” depth hole with a 5/64” (0.0781”) bit, then a #29 (0.1360”) bit, then a 3/16” (0.1875”) bit, then a “B” (0.2380”) letter drill bit.

I tried a couple of different surface preps and paints and what I found to work best was a light sand with 800 grit sandpaper, wash with dish soap, dry, then spray paint with Rustoleum Aluminum 7515 (no primer).  The no primer option actually gave a better surface finish and has adhered very well after drying for atleast 48 hours. 

My thoughts/preference:  I preferred Option B.  Even though you have to be extremely careful while holding the toggle caps and drilling into them.  I did loose a few during the process due to breakouts, but I thought it was much less work involved and less destructive to the more expensive switches than Option A.  Holding the toggle switch stems securely with vise-grips for Option A (even with small rubber pads between the grip and the stem) caused the toggle stem paint/surface coating to be scratched off.  I did notice that Option B tended to result with a few caps with a slight wobble when attached to the stems, but a VERY small amount of White Gorilla Glue (expanding) was applied and solved the issue.  While they might be permanently applied at that point (not sure as I didn't try to remove), if I have a switch failure, it's probably easier to just attach a new cap to a new switch and move on.  Hope this is useful to others that are trying to decide what to do.

Helpful hint either way, if you purchase toggle caps, make sure to purchase extras just in case.   :DOH:



where to bus the toggle caps??

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Re: Rebel's Cockpit Progress
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2018, 12:15:39 AM »
Where to buy the toggle caps?  I bought them from Biohazard.  See this thread for details:  http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=10377.msg147743#msg147743
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