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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2017, 03:29:47 AM »
You will realized as long as you read and go into this hobby that perfectionism is addictive. What now makes you happy it won't do it after some time.

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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2017, 07:22:34 AM »
Definitely true   :-\

Before you start building and constructing, it is clever to take a *long* time to think what you want.
For example, you might want to build the pit with all (or as much as possible) real panels. Ask yourself whether that is feasible. There will probably be a few panels you will not find, and maybe a few are that expensive you want to pass on them. Just know that real stuff can get crazy expensive  ::)
Mike's panels are great and from what I recently read, he is back  :yihaw:  But there are other VP members that are working on panels, and HispaPanels might be an option if you don't live in USA. From what I understand, Mike's panels are a bit nicer looking, but that might be a matter of taste, I don't know.

Another choice is *what* will be working in the pit and *how* it will be connected. There are system solutions available (Beta Innovations, JShepard and AIC), and there are partial solutions, for example reading the switches can be done with PoKeys or XKEYS, etc. And there is PHCC, but you have to master a few techniques (soldering at least anyway, but a little hardware and software knowledge won't hurt).

So, take your time, and read as much is possible. Write stuff down, even what you are thinking. By writing down your thoughts you force your brain to work just that little bit harder to prevent some silly "thinking mistakes".

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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2017, 07:38:43 AM »
100% agree with you gents.

But you and your wallet have to grow with it in time :-)  been there, done that like you other gents, and my pit today is about 3 times more expensive than it shoul have been, if I calculate all those versions of replicas and better parts I have collected, but again then you have some beginner parts to sell for a newbie.

We all have different preference for the pit quality we seek, but its addictive and you soon get hooked in this hobby.
The cool thing is you will also get friendship for life  :thumbsup: :beer:

You/we have to realize that a F-16 full pit is something there takes many years to make, and you get more and more perfectionist each year, and you are hooked.

So make a plan for your hobby/dream and follow it, regards less if it takes 5 to 10+ years, its so damn fun to build and also fly.

just also my 2 cents.
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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2017, 12:24:47 PM »
Agree too. An "accurate" (everyone has his own definition of what is accurate) pit could be very expensive. You can spend many many thousand dollars. Think first, mesure twice, cut once. You will save money, time and frustration.

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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2017, 04:16:06 PM »
Hello gents!
Thank you for your replys.

I have been thinking back and fourth and come up with this plan of building this cockpit with pretty low standard, I just want it to look something like an F-16 cockpit that I can use with BMS. what Iam trying to do at this stage is to make a decent looking cockpit  as cheap as i can.. I have planed to update items in the pit to more accurate items over time but I would like to have it working first.

My main question was about the alternatives on making switches,leds,buttons..in the pit working with the sim.(in my case BMS)
Late last night I decided to order a PoKeys57U..





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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2017, 04:34:49 PM »
Good choise if you ask me.
Pretty easy in use with tha pokeys software available

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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2017, 07:04:35 PM »
Fair enough.
Good choice too.
I have two of those along with other systems.
I recommend you then to red this:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,6911.0.html
I wired Pokeys matrix that way but diodes are place other way.
So read also:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,7765.0.html
Cheers and happy building!

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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2017, 06:16:34 AM »
Fair enough.
Good choice too.
I have two of those along with other systems.
I recommend you then to red this:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,6911.0.html
I wired Pokeys matrix that way but diodes are place other way.
So read also:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,7765.0.html
Cheers and happy building!

I also did 2 tutorials for Pokeys with leds & with ExtBus. Seems Dropbox has changed its rules so none of the images are working in my forum posts. I made two pdf's of them, but they are too large to upload on the forum. Hope these links works:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3s083dmain8vi5/Cautionpanel-pokeys-matrix.pdf?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b8soa4qhicmrfnt/PoExtBus.pdf?dl=0

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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2017, 07:33:36 AM »
I think a good value solution might be:

- Pokeys for switches, pots, encoders and LEDs, (using F4toPokeys)
- YAME for LCD screens (MFDs, gauges, etc)

If you want to go a step further and have engine gauges that are not on a screen and a stand-alone DED:
- Arduino and Deduino for DED (and FFI).
- Engine gauges driven by modified servos (using F4toPokeys and Pololu).

I've designed some PCBs for Pokeys LEDs and a caution panel PCB:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,10087.msg140976.html#msg140976
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,10339.msg147117.html#msg147117

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Re: YetY´s pit
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2017, 01:23:51 PM »
Nice work YetY,

I love the fact that you are flying first and building second!  :thumbsup:

I was only in Sweden for a stop over to Norway in the early 90's, I would love to get back to Sweden someday and see it proper! 

Good luck on your project sir.   :flipacoin:

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