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Smith's Pit
« on: May 16, 2016, 09:14:52 PM »
Hey there,

after 10 years of dreaming and waiting I finally started planing my pit.  Back then i stumbled across viperpits and i couldn't believe what some guys here have made. But because of lots of exams in school, vocational training and studying (and much more watching anime and playing computer games xD) i never found the time to start with my pit. And another reason that i didn't start was that i wanted to make a Su-27 pit. Since i know the Su-27 from Flanker 2.0 it is my aircraft of choice. For me it is the most beautiful aircraft ever built (and with stealth coming up perhaps always will be). And so i actually wantet to build a su-27 cockpit, but i could not find any measurements for the cockpit. it would have been very hard to make a decent cockpit of the Su-27 (I only want dimensionally correct cockpits). And then i don't know where to get the russian switches, MFDs and so on.

After i have built a cockpit for the racing sims I play, I said to me, that i never want to fly again at the desk sitting on an office chair. So I quit simulator flying. But I never lost track on what's going on in the simulator world, especially with DCS World becoming so big.

My Racing Pit (wasn't used for quite some time now)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/DSC02397_zps83e6558f.jpg
Smith's Pit


No sense in this Pic, i only wanted to show you how i live :P
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/DSC02401_zpshwwrln3k.jpg
Smith's Pit


And then, with VR coming up i wanted to fly again very badly. So i decided to build at least something to sit in and to mount my HOTAS warthog. And when i was searching for good rudder pedals i luckily stumbled over hempsteads site with his 3d models of the f-16 rudderpedals. With all his CAD-models he inspired me to start with planing and with his f-16 tub he gave ma a very good model to start with. And when I found in the community plans thread a link to Pablos page with his ultra awesome CAD-models he inspired me to do it right. When i was looking for ACES II plans i stumbled across this site:

http://www.simpits.org/design/drafting.html

And with these awesome hull drawings I thought it should be possible to make a decent CAD-model of the f-16 pit (with the community plans in mind). And so I was the last two month exzessively learning how to make the fuselage and looking for dimensions and pictures. And in comparison to the Su-27 there is so much more info out there for the f-16 and especially here on viperpits that i think that it should be possible to get a good CAD-model of the cockpit.

And this is what came out:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Front%20Section_zpsksvstdkt.png
Smith's Pit


And with Heampsteads Cockpit Parts and Brendas ACES II (some positional tweaking is still needed):
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Cockpit_zps4vucljoz.png
Smith's Pit


So, i think the model should be pretty accurate. For the fuselage i used the original hull drawings by Chris Van Lierop. For the Cockpit i used Feather's dimensions:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Cockpit%20with%20Measurements_zpsvfhjxwv1.png
Smith's Pit


The cockpit parts are made by hempstead and for the ACES II I used the model from here:
http://www.vaeq.com/cube/aces/various-items/3d-model-branda-s-aces-ii.html

And for the accurate placement of all parts I used the drawings by Pegasus, which he postet here:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,5477.0.html

and with some real pictures from his side I was able to do the sheet metal lines.

There is a long way to go. There are no details yet, because i first had to find aut all the important measurements (and i still don't have all of them). There are some flaws in the model that i hope to get out someday. But I am now at the stage were i start to add the ribs and add details.

So I don't know where this leads to, but i hope in the end there is a nice pit for me.

So, for sharing the CAD-model, is it ok to release it with the Brendas ACES II and Hempsteads parts in it? If so I will put it in the download section.

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 06:24:01 AM »
 :clap:
and that's an understatement

awesome job there !

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2017, 05:17:03 PM »
Hey there,

its been a while, but reallife kicked in :/
But with the new year i started again on working on my cockpit.

Here are some pictures of my CAD model:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%201_zpsowoobbvr.png
Smith's Pit


Without canopy:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%202_zpswbjkpxfm.png
Smith's Pit


With canopy:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%203_zpsgrphy3p3.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%204_zpsuo7oqzjg.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%205_zpsc86wjpnk.png
Smith's Pit


This is my work without the parts others have made:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%2010_zpsrcbigsc4.png
Smith's Pit


I extensivley used drawings i found here and there:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%206_zpsjle8xscu.png
Smith's Pit


Almost spot on (the orange lines are from my model):

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%207_zpsioyegyjl.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%208_zpsy8hvc2yj.png
Smith's Pit


Big thanks to pegasus for posting these wonderfull drawings here.

In the moment I'm working on remodelling the HUD block. I want to make it with alu-plates and solder them togehter. Thanks to the design eye, the HUD should be in my CAD model exactly there where it should be:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%209_zpseycjfy1b.png
Smith's Pit


That's it for now.

Until then, bye bye.

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2017, 08:41:57 PM »
Very nice!   I'm anxious to see this progress!
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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 02:21:30 AM »
Very Nice job well see the frame  :thumbsup:

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 04:48:23 AM »
Super cool job done there Smith  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Make it come alive  :thumbsup: :vprules:
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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 04:34:24 PM »
Woohooo  :yihaw:

I just discovered Olejon's build thread with lots of pictures of his real cockpit section. This will help me alot with making the CAD model.

All I can say is :vprules:

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 08:59:46 PM »
After I saw some videos on how to scan objects with a Kinect i couldn't resist and bought this week a used Kinect. And it works very well.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/20170223_0215401_zpsyqevyjxk.jpg
Smith's Pit


I tested scaning on the old seat of my racing cockpit and the results are pretty decent:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/d3e8247e-f580-4a19-b913-50286b27fdca_zpsrn20xzwb.jpg
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/Scan3_zpsnofwoiwh.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/20170223_0216291_zpsmlcdsp8f.jpg
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/Scan2_zpsqbaexque.png
Smith's Pit


It is perfect for complex parts like the forward glareshields or the canopy frame.

Now I only have to find an accessible F-16 cockpit  :lol:


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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2017, 10:25:43 AM »
Hi,

that looks nice, but what is kinect?

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 12:20:01 AM »
A device used with the Xbox gaming console.
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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 01:12:36 PM »
HUD almost done  :bounce2: (the CAD model of the ICP is from Pegasus)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/HUD%202_zpschkkjqnw.png
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« Last Edit: February 26, 2017, 01:28:18 PM by Smith »

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2017, 06:28:49 PM »
FYI, ICP (and CMDS) switches have the gray protective cover, not the red version.

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 03:35:29 AM »
Quote
FYI, ICP (and CMDS) switches have the gray protective cover, not the red version.

True for the Gain/LVL/Auto switch. Brand name is Cutler+Hammer.
 
For the DRIFT C/O switch you find both versions.

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2017, 12:06:35 PM »
Not much time for pitbuilding this week but it was an interesting week.

I knew for quit some time that there was a community project for an SSC, based on the real one. But because all the pictures were gone i didn't think that it would be of great help for me. This was a misjudgement. All the drawings and CAD files are still there  :yihaw:. And all the info there is just so precious. Of course I inserted all the files in my CAD file and tried to figure its function. Man, this is quit some complicated mechanism. Respect to all the guys involved in this project. Now I want one. I hope i can make a simplified version of that one. This surely will be an interesting project for me.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/SSC%201_zpsr7bmn2jm.png
Smith's Pit


Engineering-Overkill:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/SSC%202_zpsgrp3jmfr.png
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 :vprules:

And then I got my first real part of the F-16  :laugh:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/DSC02462_zpsgwbqqzys.jpg
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/DSC02463_zpszbcqkclo.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/DSC02464_zpsbpffja3g.jpg
Smith's Pit


Nothing special but it is my first real F-16 part  :bounce2: and its beautiful.
Thanks to spillone104 for that one. I will try to take exact measurements on it, so i can refine my CAD model.

Over the last few weeks I added some details on the glare shields and the center panel. I also startet on reworking the left and right aux consoles so i can make them with alu plates (the misc panel is made by pegasus):

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%2011_zpsu55kjbeg.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%2012_zps8ddkuddd.png
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« Last Edit: March 17, 2017, 12:13:44 PM by Smith »