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Smith's Pit
« on: May 16, 2016, 09:14:52 PM »
Hey there,

after 10 years of dreaming and waiting I finally started planing my pit.  Back then i stumbled across viperpits and i couldn't believe what some guys here have made. But because of lots of exams in school, vocational training and studying (and much more watching anime and playing computer games xD) i never found the time to start with my pit. And another reason that i didn't start was that i wanted to make a Su-27 pit. Since i know the Su-27 from Flanker 2.0 it is my aircraft of choice. For me it is the most beautiful aircraft ever built (and with stealth coming up perhaps always will be). And so i actually wantet to build a su-27 cockpit, but i could not find any measurements for the cockpit. it would have been very hard to make a decent cockpit of the Su-27 (I only want dimensionally correct cockpits). And then i don't know where to get the russian switches, MFDs and so on.

After i have built a cockpit for the racing sims I play, I said to me, that i never want to fly again at the desk sitting on an office chair. So I quit simulator flying. But I never lost track on what's going on in the simulator world, especially with DCS World becoming so big.

My Racing Pit (wasn't used for quite some time now)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/DSC02397_zps83e6558f.jpg
Smith's Pit


No sense in this Pic, i only wanted to show you how i live :P
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/DSC02401_zpshwwrln3k.jpg
Smith's Pit


And then, with VR coming up i wanted to fly again very badly. So i decided to build at least something to sit in and to mount my HOTAS warthog. And when i was searching for good rudder pedals i luckily stumbled over hempsteads site with his 3d models of the f-16 rudderpedals. With all his CAD-models he inspired me to start with planing and with his f-16 tub he gave ma a very good model to start with. And when I found in the community plans thread a link to Pablos page with his ultra awesome CAD-models he inspired me to do it right. When i was looking for ACES II plans i stumbled across this site:

http://www.simpits.org/design/drafting.html

And with these awesome hull drawings I thought it should be possible to make a decent CAD-model of the f-16 pit (with the community plans in mind). And so I was the last two month exzessively learning how to make the fuselage and looking for dimensions and pictures. And in comparison to the Su-27 there is so much more info out there for the f-16 and especially here on viperpits that i think that it should be possible to get a good CAD-model of the cockpit.

And this is what came out:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Front%20Section_zpsksvstdkt.png
Smith's Pit


And with Heampsteads Cockpit Parts and Brendas ACES II (some positional tweaking is still needed):
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Cockpit_zps4vucljoz.png
Smith's Pit


So, i think the model should be pretty accurate. For the fuselage i used the original hull drawings by Chris Van Lierop. For the Cockpit i used Feather's dimensions:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Cockpit%20with%20Measurements_zpsvfhjxwv1.png
Smith's Pit


The cockpit parts are made by hempstead and for the ACES II I used the model from here:
http://www.vaeq.com/cube/aces/various-items/3d-model-branda-s-aces-ii.html

And for the accurate placement of all parts I used the drawings by Pegasus, which he postet here:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php/topic,5477.0.html

and with some real pictures from his side I was able to do the sheet metal lines.

There is a long way to go. There are no details yet, because i first had to find aut all the important measurements (and i still don't have all of them). There are some flaws in the model that i hope to get out someday. But I am now at the stage were i start to add the ribs and add details.

So I don't know where this leads to, but i hope in the end there is a nice pit for me.

So, for sharing the CAD-model, is it ok to release it with the Brendas ACES II and Hempsteads parts in it? If so I will put it in the download section.

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 06:24:01 AM »
 :clap:
and that's an understatement

awesome job there !

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2017, 05:17:03 PM »
Hey there,

its been a while, but reallife kicked in :/
But with the new year i started again on working on my cockpit.

Here are some pictures of my CAD model:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%201_zpsowoobbvr.png
Smith's Pit


Without canopy:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%202_zpswbjkpxfm.png
Smith's Pit


With canopy:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%203_zpsgrphy3p3.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%204_zpsuo7oqzjg.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%205_zpsc86wjpnk.png
Smith's Pit


This is my work without the parts others have made:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%2010_zpsrcbigsc4.png
Smith's Pit


I extensivley used drawings i found here and there:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%206_zpsjle8xscu.png
Smith's Pit


Almost spot on (the orange lines are from my model):

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%207_zpsioyegyjl.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%208_zpsy8hvc2yj.png
Smith's Pit


Big thanks to pegasus for posting these wonderfull drawings here.

In the moment I'm working on remodelling the HUD block. I want to make it with alu-plates and solder them togehter. Thanks to the design eye, the HUD should be in my CAD model exactly there where it should be:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/F-16%20Pit%209_zpseycjfy1b.png
Smith's Pit


That's it for now.

Until then, bye bye.

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2017, 08:41:57 PM »
Very nice!   I'm anxious to see this progress!
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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 02:21:30 AM »
Very Nice job well see the frame  :thumbsup:

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 04:48:23 AM »
Super cool job done there Smith  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Make it come alive  :thumbsup: :vprules:
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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 04:34:24 PM »
Woohooo  :yihaw:

I just discovered Olejon's build thread with lots of pictures of his real cockpit section. This will help me alot with making the CAD model.

All I can say is :vprules:

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 08:59:46 PM »
After I saw some videos on how to scan objects with a Kinect i couldn't resist and bought this week a used Kinect. And it works very well.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/20170223_0215401_zpsyqevyjxk.jpg
Smith's Pit


I tested scaning on the old seat of my racing cockpit and the results are pretty decent:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/d3e8247e-f580-4a19-b913-50286b27fdca_zpsrn20xzwb.jpg
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/Scan3_zpsnofwoiwh.png
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/20170223_0216291_zpsmlcdsp8f.jpg
Smith's Pit


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/Scan2_zpsqbaexque.png
Smith's Pit


It is perfect for complex parts like the forward glareshields or the canopy frame.

Now I only have to find an accessible F-16 cockpit  :lol:


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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2017, 10:25:43 AM »
Hi,

that looks nice, but what is kinect?

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 12:20:01 AM »
A device used with the Xbox gaming console.
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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 01:12:36 PM »
HUD almost done  :bounce2: (the CAD model of the ICP is from Pegasus)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Smith279thKIAP/HUD%202_zpschkkjqnw.png
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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2017, 06:28:49 PM »
FYI, ICP (and CMDS) switches have the gray protective cover, not the red version.

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Re: Smith's Pit
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 03:35:29 AM »
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FYI, ICP (and CMDS) switches have the gray protective cover, not the red version.

True for the Gain/LVL/Auto switch. Brand name is Cutler+Hammer.
 
For the DRIFT C/O switch you find both versions.